Chadd 916 Report post Posted March 12, 2010 Regarding #2 not everyone lied. Almost everyone is more like it ;) . The liars were just arfaid of the truth.The Nemesis Alpha was one of the top sticks I've used in terms of weight, performance and feel. That was how many years ago? Unfortunately, everyone else was lying and that made everyone guilty by default. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rachael7 1 Report post Posted March 12, 2010 Nobody lists weight anymore because;1. It's irrelevant2. Everyone lied when they did print itThe new top end Brooklynite sticks are pretty light.Can't speak to #2 - I'll take your word for it. But I have to disagree when it comes to relevance... matters a lot to me. The difference between a 550g stick and a 430g stick in terms of toe drags and elevation of wristers... makes a huge difference in my game. I guess if you're that strong, maybe it wouldn't matter, but it sure matters to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chadd 916 Report post Posted March 12, 2010 Can't speak to #2 - I'll take your word for it. But I have to disagree when it comes to relevance... matters a lot to me. The difference between a 550g stick and a 430g stick in terms of toe drags and elevation of wristers... makes a huge difference in my game. I guess if you're that strong, maybe it wouldn't matter, but it sure matters to me.By your own implication, you could tell the difference by picking it up, why would the number make any difference in that case? Weight has nothing to do with performance, absolutely nothing. The fact that you shoot better with a lighter stick is because lighter sticks are generally designed for performance and the heavier sticks are not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
porky45 1 Report post Posted March 12, 2010 and the lighter sticks that you shot with were probably better balanced as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rachael7 1 Report post Posted March 12, 2010 By your own implication, you could tell the difference by picking it up, why would the number make any difference in that case? Weight has nothing to do with performance, absolutely nothing. The fact that you shoot better with a lighter stick is because lighter sticks are generally designed for performance and the heavier sticks are not.Yes, I can absolutely tell by picking one up, but when shopping online, you don't have that option, which is why I like to know the weight. I do get your point about correlation between low weight and higher performance - valid point and no argument there. But the I feel like the weight also has a more direct effect for those of us with a bit less wrist strength - a heavier stick just seem to keep me from getting the snap I need to find those top corners or throw a real clean saucer pass. But you're right in principle - it is not the number that matters - its just a convenient way to get some level of comparison when you cannot actually handle the sticks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gxc999 7 Report post Posted March 12, 2010 Not always. As a matter of fact, in most cases, not true.I've noticed the same thing about ultra light sticks- they have to compromise a little on the balance. I've gotten so many pro stocks between 440-480 grams that were almost perfectly balanced, I tend to prefer them over retail sticks at approx 400 grams. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chadd 916 Report post Posted March 12, 2010 Yes, I can absolutely tell by picking one up, but when shopping online, you don't have that option, which is why I like to know the weight. I do get your point about correlation between low weight and higher performance - valid point and no argument there. But the I feel like the weight also has a more direct effect for those of us with a bit less wrist strength - a heavier stick just seem to keep me from getting the snap I need to find those top corners or throw a real clean saucer pass. But you're right in principle - it is not the number that matters - its just a convenient way to get some level of comparison when you cannot actually handle the sticks.You live in MA, it's not like you don't have hockey shops there. And blaming your stick for not being able to pass or shoot is really poor form.I've noticed the same thing about ultra light sticks- they have to compromise a little on the balance. I've gotten so many pro stocks between 440-480 grams that were almost perfectly balanced, I tend to prefer them over retail sticks at approx 400 grams.Wood plugs work wonders for balancing too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
epstud74 24 Report post Posted March 12, 2010 Yea, w/the exception of the One95, I have wood plugs in all my shafts. They really help out w/the balance. I did buy a Ballistik 52 caliber OPS in November...It was almost too light.. I can see where having a stick at 440-500 grams is better than 405 grams for some people Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bostonjuniorblackhawks 1 Report post Posted March 12, 2010 Yes, I can absolutely tell by picking one up, but when shopping online, you don't have that option, which is why I like to know the weight. I do get your point about correlation between low weight and higher performance - valid point and no argument there. But the I feel like the weight also has a more direct effect for those of us with a bit less wrist strength - a heavier stick just seem to keep me from getting the snap I need to find those top corners or throw a real clean saucer pass. But you're right in principle - it is not the number that matters - its just a convenient way to get some level of comparison when you cannot actually handle the sticks.I'd take a woody over any composite stick if the blades would last. I don't really care much about weight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rachael7 1 Report post Posted March 12, 2010 You live in MA, it's not like you don't have hockey shops there. And blaming your stick for not being able to pass or shoot is really poor form.It's a poor carpenter that blames the tools - I'll give you that. But in my defense, from my little corner of the state, the nearest LHS is 90 minutes away and they don't carry Brooklynite sticks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bostonjuniorblackhawks 1 Report post Posted March 12, 2010 It's a poor carpenter that blames the tools - I'll give you that. But in my defense, from my little corner of the state, the nearest LHS is 90 minutes away and they don't carry Brooklynite sticks.You live way out west? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
furlanitalia 1 Report post Posted March 12, 2010 Yea, w/the exception of the One95, I have wood plugs in all my shafts. They really help out w/the balance. I did buy a Ballistik 52 caliber OPS in November...It was almost too light.. I can see where having a stick at 440-500 grams is better than 405 grams for some peopleFunny, I'm exactly the same. A 2 inch plug added to the top of all my sticks except the one95 (although it is longer already). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
epstud74 24 Report post Posted March 12, 2010 not a huge surprisewould it have been more practical to distribute that weight throughout the shaft? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rachael7 1 Report post Posted March 12, 2010 You live way out west?Yup. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gxc999 7 Report post Posted March 13, 2010 No, because even though the overall weight of the stick, the bottom of the stick all of a sudden was super light and guys felt like they could shoot the world out of the puck.I wonder if that's really true scientifically or just that it feels that way. I mean, I think you're right but don't really know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gxc999 7 Report post Posted March 13, 2010 Just reporting what I was told. Was going through old files and found all my notes/reports from that season. Lots of player quotes. :D I agree that it really feels true. There has to be a reason so many NHL players do it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stick9 903 Report post Posted March 13, 2010 New site looks nice. You have nice graphics on your sticks (sisu and Flow), shame you don't showcase it. I loved Titan sticks growing up, I might have to try a PM10 on looks alone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites