My BASE Stick

[Chadd 916]

as i mentioned before, they're obviously doing on purpose. they want to create buzz and get people phoning. maybe they have investors hanging around the facility all day long?

this is a business. not every company NEEDS to have to spill all their beans on the website. they've set this company up as a specialty offering, what good is it to market it like your typical hockey stick manufacturer?

This is the fanboy-ism that shut down the last topic. Let's stick to reality and avoid fantasy worlds.

[uclahockey707 1]

Played again last night. Had about 4 hours of ice time and the stick is still holdin up perfectly, no sharkskin peeling on my blade and the puck is still firing off like a top-of-the-line stick. Couldn't be happier with my purchase.

[troy 12]

Someone asked if you get a discount if you order 2 sticks, no, orders of 5 or more if I remember correctly earn a discount (not a big one though).

Two sticks are enough to earn a per-unit discount over a single stick purchase.

[JR Boucicaut 3799]

To Veks earlier point regarding 'opening a wallet' for an 'unknown product'. That's actually how I feel about everyone's darling around here, Combat. No way in this world would I lay out $200 dollars (plus whatever the cost of shipping is) for a product that had an awful previous reputation, with relatively scarce reviews. I don't care if the name on the side of the shaft has changed, it's reputation was pretty bad. Yet, somehow everyone loves Combat around here. It's strange. Applying the same logic as what's being used in this Base thread.

Combat/Ballistik ONLY started getting praise when they went with TrueTemper as a manufacturer, which had an excellent reputation, and Combat has TT's logo on the stick, and not only that, is essentially a tweaked CCM U+. That's not the same logic.

[halfmoonyote 0]

TrueTemper has an excellent reputation?

And my point was completely missed. The logic of "shelling out money for an unknown product". Combat is endeared, while Base is not? I honestly don't have a dog in the fight, I'm just calling out the hypocrisy. Yes, I bought a Base stick, and as previously mentioned have no idea how it's going to perform good or bad. I was intrigued enough to buy it, however.

[RichardsIsTheMan 0]

This is really interesting. It sounds like you and I are in the same situation, but I've been stuck using a stick with a flex of about 90 as well. If i could find a stick with Senior dimensions with a 75 flex would be amazing.

[uclahockey707 1]

Two sticks are enough to earn a per-unit discount over a single stick purchase.

Is that your opinion or fact?

[chippa13 1844]

TrueTemper has an excellent reputation?

And my point was completely missed. The logic of "shelling out money for an unknown product". Combat is endeared, while Base is not? I honestly don't have a dog in the fight, I'm just calling out the hypocrisy. Yes, I bought a Base stick, and as previously mentioned have no idea how it's going to perform good or bad. I was intrigued enough to buy it, however.

Combat has seeded members with sticks that have been used and reviewed in the long term reviews and, yes, from the things I've heard around here, True Temper does seem to have a good reputation when it comes to making sticks for different brands.

[JR Boucicaut 3799]

TrueTemper has an excellent reputation?

And my point was completely missed. The logic of "shelling out money for an unknown product". Combat is endeared, while Base is not? I honestly don't have a dog in the fight, I'm just calling out the hypocrisy. Yes, I bought a Base stick, and as previously mentioned have no idea how it's going to perform good or bad. I was intrigued enough to buy it, however.

They've done excellent work in composites for years.

But like I said, the 52 Cal is essentially the CCM U+. And they've made no bones about it as the callouts to the technologies used are TrueTemper technologies and are listed on CCM's description as well. So, not exactly an "unknown" product.

[troy 12]

Is that your opinion or fact?

My opinion, I thought that sounded like a good policy for the company so I figured I'd start spreading the word for them. Why would somebody give an opinion for that sort of question, if anything it would be misinformation. I can't imagine anyone knowingly giving a non-affiliated opinion postured as fact, seems preposterous. Anyway, according to my US Pricing spreadsheet, each stick ordered in the two-five stick range is $5 less expensive than a single stick.

[shotty 7]

This is the fanboy-ism that shut down the last topic. Let's stick to reality and avoid fantasy worlds.

no its not fanboy. i could care less about BASE hockey. i havent placed any calls to them to book appointments, havent asked for pattern pdfs, nor fantasized about what it would be like to skate around with a base stick in my hands... Its a business perspective. people are pissed because they expect everything given to them on a silver platter with the internet at the finger tips of many. if base threw all the info on the website, no one would know what nikki's voice sounded like, or any of the nitty gritty details that people have posted. and the fact is that i can respect that because there's probably a lot going on behind the scenes and they would rather have phones ringing and keeping the people they are employing busy than checking unique website hits... and showing that to their investors. this shit aint cheap and there's a ton of money invested here that doesnt belong to the faces of this new company.

you can keep being cynical, but dont tell me that i'm being a fanboy.

[Justin Liedloff 13]

no its not fanboy. i could care less about BASE hockey. . . . dont tell me that i'm being a fanboy.

Your logic about showing progress to investors is as ass backwards as their marketing. What "investors" in their right mind would prefer paying someone a salary to email a pdf file and answer multiple phone calls, when they can simply put the information (that has already been prepared) on the website.

Investors care about bottom line, not how many times the phone rings.

[GoWings85 0]

It seems like some people in this thread just have some sort of gripe about BASE for some reason or another...

[halfmoonyote 0]

@GoWings - that's what I can't figure out either. I don't understand the negative will generated by their lack of (what some people deem) deficient marketing. It's not like Base came on here and just started flaming people or causing problems.

It seems a little silly to get worked up - for the good or bad - about a relative unknown stick brand. Be that as it may, and as I've stated prior, people can just choose not to buy the sticks if they don't like the ideology, marketing philosophy, or approach of the brand.

That said, the guy who built Inno is behind this brand, and that was good enough for me, I suppose, to give them a shot.

[JR Boucicaut 3799]

Nothing negative on our part - like I always say, they are welcome here, just like any other manufacturer.