Total One Skates-Durability Issues

[DarkStar50 679]

Actually, you are paying a grand for performance. If you want to go really fast, buy a Ferrari. If you want to drive around town, buy a Ford Fusion.

[zaytser 0]

Actually, you are paying a grand for performance. If you want to go really fast, buy a Ferrari. If you want to drive around town, buy a Ford Fusion.

I swear some of you guys just like to play the Devils Advocate. Do you really believe totalones are worth a grand if the tendon gaurds and liner and boot turn to crap after 4 months. That is total BS. My skating ability is what makes me go fast, a lighter skates allows me to go fast longer, but doesn't make me go whole lot faster.. What my point is, that there is no value in these skates if they only last 4 months. Gee thanks for letting me borrow these super advaned skates for 4 months for a thousand bucks, I feel so priviledged.

Does a friggin Ferrari blow an engine driving around town with An experianced driver behind the wheel? No, it is an advanced machine designed to go fast, but that doesn't mean it expires after a few laps. Your comparison is poor at best.

[zebra_steve 11]

The top end skates USED to be a MERCEDES... Comfortable, great performance and longevity....

Actually, you are paying a grand for performance. If you want to go really fast, buy a Ferrari. If you want to drive around town, buy a Ford Fusion.

The heck with it.... as long as folks will pay it they'll keep doing it.

[troy 12]

The car analogies can be pretty skewed, the Ferrari is reasonably accurate. As for the Benz, and really all other German luxury vehicles the money spent to maintain them is pretty considerable.

As for the liners, I have T1 liners in my X:60s and after four months skating 5+ times a week at a high level, they show pretty much no wear. I wonder what the reason is behind that.

[zaytser 0]

The car analogies can be pretty skewed, the Ferrari is reasonably accurate. As for the Benz, and really all other German luxury vehicles the money spent to maintain them is pretty considerable.

As for the liners, I have T1 liners in my X:60s and after four months skating 5+ times a week at a high level, they show pretty much no wear. I wonder what the reason is behind that.

If this dudes skates just happen to be a lemon out of the bunch. then so be it, it happens. However other people in this thread have had issues, and until I hear more opinions about the quality of build and durability, I cannot justify buying them or one100's. I don't expect these skates to last forever, but they had better last longer than 4 months.

[sebseb 0]

I have a theory that may be total BS that the Supreme line is made for testing new tech like with ALIVE material and stuff like that, tech that later would be found in the Vapor skates (still the most popular skate among the pros). ONE90 crap durability, ONE95 tank, TotalONE time will tel that it will be crap durability, on the other hand, vapors xxx, xxxx, X:60, tanks all of them. What I don't understand and I asked this in the APX topic so sorry for the hijack but I didn't have any luck there so here it is again:

"Is the APX going to have internals that stiffen up the skate, like the "integrated pro heel and ankle support" or something in those lines, or is it just the ALIVE composite that offers all the support like in the case of the TotalONE? About the HydraMax2, I would have kept the top rubber material on the X:60 and replaced the mesh stuff with clarino, I don't get how they were like, "we need something more resistant then what we already have (clarino in the xxxx)" and they came up with the HydraMax and now clarino is better, more abrasion resistant, in the upper portion then the rubber stuff, weird. "

[RussianDangler15 0]

Yea but as was stated the people who do have a problem will always be heard more then those who have no issues. Every product has problems that some experience and some don't.

[raganblink 82]

For the people I've seen with totalones or one100s, who are skating s highend level, only two have had issues they addressed to us. Rest look brand new on interior.

They probably dont fit you correctly plus a bad model. If there was a problem with these skates (ala u+) they would recall them. Everyones skates have warranty issues, these are no different.

[DarkStar50 679]

The car analogies can be pretty skewed, the Ferrari is reasonably accurate. As for the Benz, and really all other German luxury vehicles the money spent to maintain them is pretty considerable.

As for the liners, I have T1 liners in my X:60s and after four months skating 5+ times a week at a high level, they show pretty much no wear. I wonder what the reason is behind that.

Fit?

My TotalONEs are 13+ months old. I have just started to get a small wear abrasion at the top eyelet. The rest of the boot is holding up perfectly well.

zayster, let us know what your result is after dealing with your LHS. I understand your rant, however, there hasn't been any final resolution between Bauer and you yet, has there?

Well I have had my Total One skates since the beginning of the season, making it roughly four months. I love the skate a lot, but they haven't been holding up very great. I am having issues with the liner, tongue, boot, and tendon guard. I contacted Bauer's skate warranty person, hopefully they'll have an explanation for all of this. It's really frustrating when I'm spending $900 on a pair of skates and this is the quality I am getting. I used my xxx skates for two full seasons and nothing like this happened. I know the skate cut on the boot can't really be avoided but should it be cutting in that deep?

You wore Vapors for 2 years with no problem. Then you switched to a Supreme. Maybe some of the issues with the tongue rubbing and ripping your TO at the top eyelet are fit issues. Maybe your foot fits better in the Vapor last and simply doesn't fit as well in a Supreme last. Also, do you tape the back of your boot at the bottom of the shin pad? How did the tendon guard rip?

[zaytser 0]

Fit?

My TotalONEs are 13+ months old. I have just started to get a small wear abrasion at the top eyelet. The rest of the boot is holding up perfectly well.

zayster, let us know what your result is after dealing with your LHS. I understand your rant, however, there hasn't been any final resolution between Bauer and you yet, has there?

You wore Vapors for 2 years with no problem. Then you switched to a Supreme. Maybe some of the issues with the tongue rubbing and ripping your TO at the top eyelet are fit issues. Maybe your foot fits better in the Vapor last and simply doesn't fit as well in a Supreme last. Also, do you tape the back of your boot at the bottom of the shin pad? How did the tendon guard rip?

Dude, I haven't bought any totalones yet???? I was commenting on that I would not justify the expense if more people go through Durability issues like the original poster. I am ranting because the economy is its worst ever and yet Bauer finds a way to sell a pair of skates for a grand. Too me $500 mark is high enough for an advanced skate. I guess money is no object for some on this board. Do I need totalones??? No, of course not, but when I tried them on for curiosity sake, I got excited cause they felt good and would give some thought to buying them. I haven't bought top of the line skates since pkaying Junior A 10 years ago, when Vapor 10 were falling apart after 2 weeks of use, and pretty much knew te direction hockey skate companies were going with regard to quality. So since then I figured I may as well pay $300 for some mid level skates since they last just as long as the to of he line ones.

[DarkStar50 679]

zaysterdude, sorry I got you mixed up with the OP. Nobody holds a gun to your head when you walk into a LHS to buy skates and tells you it is $1000 or nothing at all. And yes, the whole world is out to screw everyone, whether it is your hockey skates, your phone, or your MickeyDs Big Mac. This topic is headed for lock down real soon.

[troy 12]

Yes DarkStar, I was a little tongue in cheek with that. I think when you have a pair of skates that fit as well as possible, coupled with proper maintenance, a lot of these issues can be prevented. By the way, my skates just keep getting better every ice-time.

[zaytser 0]

zaysterdude, sorry I got you mixed up with the OP. Nobody holds a gun to your head when you walk into a LHS to buy skates and tells you it is $1000 or nothing at all. And yes, the whole world is out to screw everyone, whether it is your hockey skates, your phone, or your MickeyDs Big Mac. This topic is headed for lock down real soon.

Lock it down, whatever. I was just conveying frustration about equipment durability, performance and price. First you mock me with Ferrari comparisons, then apologize and then mock me with comments about people not holding a gun to my head to buy a certain pair of skates, and how everyone is out to screw me and me only. Do you work for Bauer, or own your own shop? I am not on a mission to bash Bauer skates, just frustrated to here about issues of durbility on yet another high end Bauer skate. Have I attacked you personally some how? You have had good luck with your totalones so of course you are skeptical of somoene else with a major blow out and also it helps me make an informed decision about buying them, but your anology of high performance skates and cars pissed me off and did nothing to inform anyone of the skate itself other than to pay big money and you will outskate everyone. I have played for 25 years and spent thousands upon thousands on equipment that was supposed to be worth its weight in gold and was dogg crapp, so forgive me ranting a little on hockey equipment companies and their lack of love for the consumer. Sheesh.

[DarkStar50 679]

I wasn't mocking you. I was giving an opinion. I never said anybody was out to screw you personally. I am not skeptical of the OPs problem. I think it could be solved if everyone bothers to act like adults and see what Bauer is willing to do for him. I don't work for Bauer but know a lot of people who do. Believe it or not, they do love their consumers. They do care and they are willing to right a wrong. Just last year they took a re-call on OPS that were over 4 years old and replaced with them brand new models, no questions asked.

[dunc19 0]

You wore Vapors for 2 years with no problem. Then you switched to a Supreme. Maybe some of the issues with the tongue rubbing and ripping your TO at the top eyelet are fit issues. Maybe your foot fits better in the Vapor last and simply doesn't fit as well in a Supreme last. Also, do you tape the back of your boot at the bottom of the shin pad? How did the tendon guard rip?

I forgot to mention that I used the one 95s last year, and the one 75s previous to that year. I only wore those skates one year each, and just like the Vapors I had minimal problems. (Graphics on the one75s were coming off and my steel broke on the one95s. I think that with no durability issues in the Supreme series the past few years that would be the case with the T1s. I actually tried on some x60s and T1s and the T1s fit great unlike the x60s. And no I do not tape the back of my boot...i'm not to sure how the tendon guard ripped. Many of you probably think it is from taking off the skate by forcing pressure on the tendon guard but I learned from my one95s that it's a bad idea. To be honest, i'm not sure how the tendon guard ripped. I noticed it a little bit and I wasn't too concerned but then it gradually got worse so I am now concerned.

[ricepow 14]

While this is not directly related, it is partially. I recently picked up a pair of One100s from a pretty well known online retailer. I baked them, sharpened them, and used them once. I then noticed an incorrectly mounted holder on the right skate which also resulted in a warped runner. I called the retailer where I bought them and they provided me with a UPS label to ship them back for inspection and possible replacement. The same day they received them they inspected them, confirming a defect, and had my new pair out to me. While it sucks to deal with, I'm guessing part of that retailers willingness to satisfy the customer is also partially due to him knowing Bauer will do right for them on the defective skates (it sounded like that anyway). I agree that it sucks, but I also agree to give Bauer a chance to do right.

[Axxion89 32]

While this is not directly related, it is partially. I recently picked up a pair of One100s from a pretty well known online retailer. I baked them, sharpened them, and used them once. I then noticed an incorrectly mounted holder on the right skate which also resulted in a warped runner. I called the retailer where I bought them and they provided me with a UPS label to ship them back for inspection and possible replacement. The same day they received them they inspected them, confirming a defect, and had my new pair out to me. While it sucks to deal with, I'm guessing part of that retailers willingness to satisfy the customer is also partially due to him knowing Bauer will do right for them on the defective skates (it sounded like that anyway). I agree that it sucks, but I also agree to give Bauer a chance to do right.

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Also for people to keep in mind, if you buy a new product when it just comes out (This isn't directed at the OP) that involves new technology, there are bound to be problems with certain things as product testing can never predict all issues. This goes for EVERYTHING manufactured no matter the price (Cars, phones, pens, guns, guitars, etc). 95% of the time, the company will not screw over the customer but try and make it right and if you are concerned about a products durability or likeliness to perform to expectations, wait a while before you buy it, more reviews will come out, prices will drop, and issues will be solved (hopefully).

[vaporboy12 0]

Been having the same problems with my total ones. Its a shame I loved skating in my One95 and really don't look forward to wearing these. I am going away from bauer skates, Doing a pair of custom 11k's

[dunc19 0]

Been having the same problems with my total ones. Its a shame I loved skating in my One95 and really don't look forward to wearing these. I am going away from bauer skates, Doing a pair of custom 11k's

My one95s were awesome too. In my 10 years of using Bauer skates I haven't experienced anything like this. How much do custom 11ks run you up to?

[Franky 0]

Quoted for Truth

Also for people to keep in mind, if you buy a new product when it just comes out (This isn't directed at the OP) that involves new technology, there are bound to be problems with certain things as product testing can never predict all issues. This goes for EVERYTHING manufactured no matter the price (Cars, phones, pens, guns, guitars, etc). 95% of the time, the company will not screw over the customer but try and make it right and if you are concerned about a products durability or likeliness to perform to expectations, wait a while before you buy it, more reviews will come out, prices will drop, and issues will be solved (hopefully).

Bauer is already well screwing over the customers to ask 799USD for something made oversea

[IniNew 53]

Bauer is already well screwing over the customers to ask 799USD for something made oversea

Fellow consumers willing to pay 800 are the ones screwing others over. Bauer only charges what people are willing to pay.

[DarkStar50 679]

Been having the same problems with my total ones. Its a shame I loved skating in my One95 and really don't look forward to wearing these. I am going away from bauer skates, Doing a pair of custom 11k's

Before you drop the $$$$, this might be worth looking at.

http://www.modsquadhockey.com/forums/index.php?/topic/55616-reebok-11k-skate-durability-issues/

[raganblink 82]

Thank you ds. Every skate has durability issues with some % of their user base.

[dunc19 0]

Talked to Bauer recently about my problems with the skate. They are informing me to go through my retailer to send the skate directly back to them so they can take a look at it. This sucks for me though because I'm in the middle of hockey season and I can't really afford to send the skate it. Apparently I'll only be without it for a week though, who knows what they are going to do when they take a closer look at the skate...if I want this process to move forward I guess I'm going to have to use my one95s temporarily.

[wrangler 157]

Talked to Bauer recently about my problems with the skate. They are informing me to go through my retailer to send the skate directly back to them so they can take a look at it. This sucks for me though because I'm in the middle of hockey season and I can't really afford to send the skate it. Apparently I'll only be without it for a week though, who knows what they are going to do when they take a closer look at the skate...if I want this process to move forward I guess I'm going to have to use my one95s temporarily.

Sounds like they'll try to take care of you. And they can't really make a decision without looking at the skates. At least you've still got good skates to use in the meantime.