Bauer TotalOne Skates Still Hurt After 2 1/2 Months

[dberube 0]

Hi guys, this is my first post on this forum. My skates have made me seek help!

First, quickly about me. I've played D1 High School, Juniors and Hockey in the ECAC. I'm 28 and now Refereeing pretty high level hockey.

I tell you that because from ages 16-23 I got new skates every year or two provided by the teams. I've been a Vapor fan and I stuck with that skate throughout those years.

When you get new skates it usually takes a few weeks to get accustomed to them. Then there is usually a few weeks of small pain points on certain areas but your foot/ankle either adapts and gets used to it, or the skate gives a little.

With my TotalOne's I have 2 very distinct areas of pain:

On the right foot, on the outside just below the pinky toe joint. I seem to have solved this by punching out the padding in that area.

The second, and most painful point, is located on the inside protruding ankle bone on the the side facing my toes (not facing my heel).

I referee between 5-20 games a week so I have been using these skates a lot.

I'm not at a point where I do not think I will ever get past the pain on the ankle bone. It appears as if punching out the pads will not help because it looks as if it's the eyelits or close to them causing the issue.

I was using Graf footbeds, and I did notice going back to the standard ones that came with the skate does seem to help a little bit, not enough. Is this common for non-standard footbeds to cause issues?

My real question is, is anyone else experiencing the same thing and do I have any hope of salvaging these skates or is it money down the drain?

Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you!

Also, did anyone else's skates come with footbeds that were a half size smaller than the skate?

[raganblink 82]

Foootbed comes half size small. If I had the time atm I could help you

[troy 12]

If your ankle bone is too close to the eyelets then the skate is not deep enough for you. Using the lowest volume insole as possible is the only way to alter that, and its impact will most likely be marginal.

[raganblink 82]

Beat me too it Haha. Only thing that might help is lacking pattern, instead of going under than over, go over than under to get a little more pressure relieved on the tongue so your foot has more volume. Sounds to me like you just should have stuck with vapors, or if you really wanted the supremes get the one100 as with reffing you don't need fusion or the reflex tongue per say as it was designed for players.

[dberube 0]

Beat me too it Haha. Only thing that might help is lacking pattern, instead of going under than over, go over than under to get a little more pressure relieved on the tongue so your foot has more volume. Sounds to me like you just should have stuck with vapors, or if you really wanted the supremes get the one100 as with reffing you don't need fusion or the reflex tongue per say as it was designed for players.

Trying to visualize this in my head. Wouldn't going over and then under create more pressure? I could be wrong. Also, the One100's would presumably give me the same problem, no? I got the TotalOne's because I'm just used to having the top of the line skates to be honest with you.

Thanks to everyone else, I do appreciate it.

[raganblink 82]

Going over then under creates less pressure on the tongue. Atleast for me... when I got the one100s I started to have lace-bite due to the thicker tongue, so in the middle of the boot I had to go over/under to alleviate some of the pressure.

With the Totalones I've noticed that it seems that there was less thermoforable material compared to the one100 in the quarter package. haven't baked/skated on TOs though so I could be full of shit here.

When was the last time you baked these? Or have you gone down that route before?

[dberube 0]

As far as refereeing, it's still the same. You need speed and agility. I have to hustle to keep up with a odd man rush to get to the goaline before the puck, and still be agile enough to dodge players and pucks in the corner.

Going over then under creates less pressure on the tongue. Atleast for me... when I got the one100s I started to have lace-bite due to the thicker tongue, so in the middle of the boot I had to go over/under to alleviate some of the pressure.

With the Totalones I've noticed that it seems that there was less thermoforable material compared to the one100 in the quarter package. haven't baked/skated on TOs though so I could be full of shit here.

When was the last time you baked these? Or have you gone down that route before?

Yes, they have been baked.

Someone else also recommended a Bunga Wrap.

[raganblink 82]

They're pretty cheap (comparatively) and def. an option i'd look into.

[johnnyvegas 0]

Haven't tried these myself but you might consider this:

Malleolar Gel Sleeve

[vaporboy12 0]

I have have had the same problem with the ankle bone along with a few other people I know. On my skates I fixed the problem by adding some felt to the top have of the tongue on the skate doesn't look pretty but it works

[Shayno 1]

If your ankle bone is too close to the eyelets then the skate is not deep enough for you. Using the lowest volume insole as possible is the only way to alter that, and its impact will most likely be marginal.

I think tis is the answer!! Not deep enough...get the shallowest footbeds you can find, in my opinion....Good luck! What size are they?

[dberube 0]

I think tis is the answer!! Not deep enough...get the shallowest footbeds you can find, in my opinion....Good luck! What size are they?

They're 7D.

I actually think I'm just going to put them up for sale. I paid a lot of money for the skates and they hurt my feet. Sucks, but I rather get another pair that are comfortable.

[Esa_10 1]

If the problem is lacebite, these work great. I've since gotten new skates but these saved me in my old pair.

http://bungapads.com/index.php?dispatch=products.view&product_id=30136

I went no socks with just the bunga pad.

[sikocycles 1]

Hi guys, this is my first post on this forum. My skates have made me seek help!

First, quickly about me. I've played D1 High School, Juniors and Hockey in the ECAC. I'm 28 and now Refereeing pretty high level hockey.

I tell you that because from ages 16-23 I got new skates every year or two provided by the teams. I've been a Vapor fan and I stuck with that skate throughout those years.

When you get new skates it usually takes a few weeks to get accustomed to them. Then there is usually a few weeks of small pain points on certain areas but your foot/ankle either adapts and gets used to it, or the skate gives a little.

With my TotalOne's I have 2 very distinct areas of pain:

On the right foot, on the outside just below the pinky toe joint. I seem to have solved this by punching out the padding in that area.

The second, and most painful point, is located on the inside protruding ankle bone on the the side facing my toes (not facing my heel).

I referee between 5-20 games a week so I have been using these skates a lot.

I'm not at a point where I do not think I will ever get past the pain on the ankle bone. It appears as if punching out the pads will not help because it looks as if it's the eyelits or close to them causing the issue.I was using Graf footbeds, and I did notice going back to the standard ones that came with the skate does seem to help a little bit, not enough. Is this common for non-standard footbeds to cause issues?

My real question is, is anyone else experiencing the same thing and do I have any hope of salvaging these skates or is it money down the drain?

Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you!

Also, did anyone else's skates come with footbeds that were a half size smaller than the skate?

I have the exact same problem. Only on the right foot. I thought the TO was a deep skate. What is deeper?

[flyersfan9319 0]

My friend actually had this problem too, but he didnt fix them,a few of his teammates on his junior team had the problem as well. he got the new ccm u+cl and he hasn't had any problems with them

[Jason 65]

Are you guys sure that this problem is due to too much depth? It may seem counter intuitive, but I think it might be excess volume in the upper boot. When there us too much volume, there will be too much wrapping of the boot around the ankle and then lace bite and lateral malleoli problems can occur. T1's are pretty deep, so unless you have thick feet and ankles, I would lean towards it being an excess of depth that is your problem. Installing a thicker tongue and/or footbed is the easiest solution. There was another thread on MSH that helped me discover that this was the problem I was having with my one95's.

[Top Cheese 0]

Unfortunately, I made the mistake of buying the new Supreme lineup this year. Originally coming from Vapors I hard a really hard time adjusting. After 1 1/2 weeks I sold them on Ebay for around $500 and bought some X:60s. That was at the beginning of my season when the new Supremes were newer. I don't know how much money you can get now after using them for so long. I would say if you're used to a Vapor, use a Vapor, but that's just me.

[sikocycles 1]

I don't think mine is a depth issue. I think they are not too deep.

The left skate is perfect. The ankle bone is in the center of the pad. The right skate the ankle bone hits right where the pad ends and the lace eyelets start. I get no lace bite at all.

Very painful tonight.

May need custom skates

[FIRERACER 0]

Hello, I joined this website looking for a solution to my right foot ankle pain from my Total One skates. I did a search and found this posting. I have the same issue, right ankle bone pain. From what i have read on here it may be from the lace eyelets and the boot not being deep enough. I have tried adjusting the tongue but nothing seems to work, i skip the top eyelets now for some relief but not much, I have to wear them very loose. i have had them baked as per Bauer after a bunch of skates and thought this would do it, but no. I don't know what to do with them now. I may go to a shop and have them try and stretch or punch them out for me. For the money i thought they would be the best last skates that i would wear. We shall see.

[AIREAYE 248]

Punching is spot relief, so if the pain is just on your ankle bone, that could be a solution too. Ever try getting them rebaked? That should be your next step before you try the punch

[ktang 34]

You could make a doughnut out of some high density foam (e.g. helmet VN foam) or mouse pads, and tape / place them around your ankle knobs. The foam should be enough to cushion against the eyelets and laces.

Reffing aggravates my lace bite more than anything else. 20 games per week is a lot, physically and mentally.

[RussianDangler15 0]

You said you've always worn vapors perhaps the switch has something to do with it seeing as the two fit differently.