Byfuglien boating drunk, hmm, but 286lbs wow

[headonaswivel 1]

Hockey players are not endurance athletes. Marathon runners, cyclists, triathletes; those are endurance athletes and their bodies look nothing like any hockey player I've ever seen.

Right on the money. Hockey isn't endurance so much as quick burst. Yes you need lungs, but you aren't skating for 30 mins straight. Power, with some lungs and lactic acid buffering. My old physiotherapist was a National 10k champ, and he looks like a ripped skeleton. 5-6%. Comparing a 200m runner to a 5000m runner

A lot of it is bunk, take it with a grain of salt.

Chadd, I have read your posts since the CoreBeam days, and generally share many of the the same views as you. However in this case you are completely incorrect.

When I was in University I was an exercise Physiology Major. Granted, my profession now couldn't be further away, but knowledge is knowledge. Caz's post was right on the money in many ways:

Handheld gizmo's are terribly inaccurate

Scales aren't much better

The only true and accurate measurement is a water dip and skinfold. I have had both done when I was 21, training 5 days a week with University level athletes and competing natural bodybuilders. At the time I was roughly 7%. I trained at quite a high level then, and although I am coming up on 32, I would say I am now in the 10% range. I am roughly the same size as sitzlejd (5'10" 172lbs) who, unless is skinny/fat, is not 20%!!

Also, I have had a number of friends play in the minors, overseas and the NHL, as well as Intl Rugby. There is a big difference between the fitness level of them, that's for damn sure. Not to say ECHL guy's aren't in great shape, but on average they aren't on the same level.

The average player is 10-12%. There are the gym/training devotee's that are cut up to 7-8%, and there are softer guys too, but on average 10-12% is right in line. There is an old Youtube clip of the Oiler's working out, joking and chirping about somebody being 14% during camp.

But in high level hockey, you'll have your Buff's that carry ton's of spare baggage and get the job done. The best gym body doesn't mean shit if you can't play, but it will help if you can.

[Chadd 916]

Handheld gizmo's are terribly inaccurate

Scales aren't much better

Agree on both accounts

As for the players, it depends on what time of year you measure them. There is a pretty wide variation from one player to the next and the same player will ring up different totals depending on the time of year he is measured.

[sitzlejd 0]

I kinda figured that handheld gizmo had to be way off. 20% just seemed too high for what I see in the mirror. Apparently there is an "athlete setting" that might make it more accurate for people who carry a fair amount of muscle. Not sure I'm quite there, but the standard setting just doesn't seem accurate to me.

[Scotty 8]

A lot of it is bunk, take it with a grain of salt.

I will agree with you that it depends on the time of year as to what results you might get concerning BF% for NHL players, but I'm curious as to what you think is "bunk" in Caz's posts.

It's an area (nutrition, body composition) I'm heavily vested in as well and I see little wrong with what he has stated.

[Chadd 916]

I will agree with you that it depends on the time of year as to what results you might get concerning BF% for NHL players, but I'm curious as to what you think is "bunk" in Caz's posts.

It's an area (nutrition, body composition) I'm heavily vested in as well and I see little wrong with what he has stated.

I've addressed the two areas that were factually inaccurate.

[Caz 0]

I kinda figured that handheld gizmo had to be way off. 20% just seemed too high for what I see in the mirror. Apparently there is an "athlete setting" that might make it more accurate for people who carry a fair amount of muscle. Not sure I'm quite there, but the standard setting just doesn't seem accurate to me.

Precisely. Its actually funny you say that. When I put in my BMI on most websites, I get numbers back saying that I need to lose weight. Its because they don't take into consideration your muscle density or fat ratio.

[hellaavangard 33]

According to Bob McKenzie on twitter today: "Byfuglien weighed 269 on 1st day of ATL camp 1 year ago. Weighed 288 at exit medical at season end. Put on 19 pounds in-season!"