Skate Insoles and Arch Supports

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The balls of my feet on my CCM Pro Tacks are absolutely KILLING me. The stock insole is paper thin offering no cushioning at all and made me feel like the footbed was made out of cement, as a result the balls of my feet absolutely killed me. When I skate, I really dig into the ice and skate as hard as I can for every second i'm on the ice and the balls of my feet were killing me because there was no cushioning in the stock CCM insoles.

So I figured i'd buy the Shock Doctor insolts and those would fix my problem, boy was I wrong. While the Shock Doctor insole is thicker and has a TON of cushioning in the heel area which is great, the forefoot area has virtually no cushioning at all and that is exactly where I need the most cushioning (better than the stock CCM insole though).

I have not tried the SuperFeet insoles yet, i've heard a lot of great things about them but everyone has a different type of foot, so just because they worked well for someone else doesn't mean they'll work well for me. Can anyone tell me how much cushioning there is in the forefoot area near the balls of your feet? More cushioning than the Shock Doctors in the forefoot area? I read on InlineWarehouse that the SuperFeet insoles were pretty stiff so that has me concerned.

Also, there is another company called Sole that makes a hockey footbed, does anyone have any experience with them? They're cost twice as much as SuperFeet footbeds. http://www.yoursole.com/cgi-bin/edge/splas...gory=SOLE_ULTRA. They claim to be better than SuperFeet on here: http://www.yoursole.com/sports/hockey.htm

I also found these soles (http://www.gartsports.com/product/index.js...rentPage=family) and they're made specifically to cushion the balls of the feet, however they're not hockey skate footbeds so i'm concerned they'd fall apart after a few games, but they seem like exactly what i'm looking for.

Any help and advice is greatly appreciated.

[Reaper 0]

I wouldn't recommend getting Sole insoles unless you have a lot of extra room in your skates. They are quite big and can raise your heel up a bit. While I think they are a great insole (they are heat moldable) they do run pretty thick. The ultra cushioning model has about twice as much cushioning as the regular one but be warned that they will fill up your skates considerably.

[jay 1]

Sounds to me like the problem is the skates don't fit properly. I had the EXACT same problem with my CCM 1052's way back. Was easily alleviated when I purchased a skate with proper arch support for my foot shape.

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Sounds to me like the problem is the skates don't fit properly.  I had the EXACT same problem with my CCM 1052's way back.  Was easily alleviated when I purchased a skate with proper arch support for my foot shape.

Oh wow, so you don't think the problem is not enough cushioning in the ball of my feet and the real problem is not enough arch support which results in my forefoot hurting so badly?

EDIT: Just found this online.... "What are the symptoms of the foot that may not have enough arch support? They will often get problems if they have a foot that is pronated (rolls inwards at the ankle). The symptoms can vary from mild aches in the forefoot to arch pain to heel spurs - but do not forget that other things can cause the same symptoms."

Damn :(.

I spent a lot of money on my Pro Tacks and they've already been used a considerable amount so it's too late to return them and just buy another skate. I suppose I could just buy some arch supports?

[#94 3]

Yeah, I could see that happening. There is no support for your arch so, instead, it adds pressure to the balls of your feet.

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Thanks guys, I really appreciate the help! You're right, the problem is not having enough arch support and as a result it causes my forefoot and the balls of my feet to hurt like hell.

I talked to JR and he recommended I go buy some arch supports instead of spend a lot of money on a new pair of insoles with more cushioning, because cushioning isn't my problem.

Thanks again.

[dix0r 0]

I wouldn't recommend getting Sole insoles unless you have a lot of extra room in your skates. They are quite big and can raise your heel up a bit. While I think they are a great insole (they are heat moldable) they do run pretty thick. The ultra cushioning model has about twice as much cushioning as the regular one but be warned that they will fill up your skates considerably.

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i have a pair of the ultra cushioning ones that i put in a pair of supreme 6000's that were too big (volume wise) for me...the skates still didn't fit right but they made em a lot more comfortable. definitely very thick though. on the site they don't recommend the ultra cushioning one's for skates, only the thinner ones.

now i have a pair of vector 7.5's...i like them as they are but i'm curious to how they'd be with the sole's...i know the ultras would be too much for this skate. maybe i'll buy a pair of the thinner one's just to try em...i think theres a money back gaurantee anyways.

if so i'll let you know how i like em.

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I bought some foam arch supports that you put under the regular insole, just standing up with my skates on I can't really feel any difference at all between with them and without them, but then again my forefoot never starts hurting until after skating for about 8-10 minutes so I guess time will tell. I'm going to go open skating tomorrow and test it out.

Does anyone else have any other suggestions?

Thanks

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[mojo122 535]

Do what you intended to do. Skate on them with the arch supports in and see whether or not they make a difference. If they do, then you're golden. If not, either try a different footbed or put them up for sale and move on.

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Do what you intended to do. Skate on them with the arch supports in and see whether or not they make a difference. If they do, then you're golden. If not, either try a different footbed or put them up for sale and move on.

Is there any particular footbed that you would recommend?

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I went to this podiatrist place to look into custom orthodics and they cost $375!!! For that much I could buy a new pair of skates.

So then I found a place that sold Superfeet insoles and bought a pair, I haven't skated in them yet but they seem like they'll be good. I'm going to skate in them tomorrow and see how it goes, i'll be sure to post my results here.

[JR Boucicaut 3801]

Yeah, orthotics are expensive...

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I forgot to mention, the only thing is that the heel in the Superfeet soles is raised up pretty high and as a result my foot feels EXTREMELY tight in the boot.

[mojo122 535]

I forgot to mention, the only thing is that the heel in the Superfeet soles is raised up pretty high and as a result my foot feels EXTREMELY tight in the boot.

I guess the arch supports didn't work for you? Might just be the skates aren't right for your foot. Thought these innersoles looked interesting. Maybe someone here has tried them?

http://www.yoursole.com/index.htm

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I guess the arch supports didn't work for you? Might just be the skates aren't right for your foot. Thought these innersoles looked interesting. Maybe someone here has tried them?

http://www.yoursole.com/index.htm

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i have a pair of the ultra cushioning ones that i put in a pair of supreme 6000's that were too big (volume wise) for me...the skates still didn't fit right but they made em a lot more comfortable. definitely very thick though. on the site they don't recommend the ultra cushioning one's for skates, only the thinner ones.

now i have a pair of vector 7.5's...i like them as they are but i'm curious to how they'd be with the sole's...i know the ultras would be too much for this skate. maybe i'll buy a pair of the thinner one's just to try em...i think theres a money back gaurantee anyways.

if so i'll let you know how i like em.

i forgot to mention it, but those are what i was talking about :]

[mojo122 535]

I think I just didn't read it right. Good feedback about the difference between the regular and ultra. ;)

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Superfeet are AWESOME! They solved all my problems, absolutely amazing involes and I highly recommend them to everyone that is having problems with their heels, archs, or forefoot hurting badly. Even if you don't have any problems it's still a massive improvement over the OEM insole in your skates. I just can't believe how awesome they are, everytime I stepped on the ice I felt like I had torture chambers strapped to my feet and when I put the Superfeet insoles in I felt like I was skating on a cloud, lol.

I am having a LITTLE bit of pain in the arch on my left foot but it's not a big deal and nowhere close to the pain I was having on the balls of my feet before, the arch thing will most likely go away once I skate on the Superfeet insoles some more. I heard you've got to give them some time to break in as well.

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Okay, just an update on the SuperFeet insoles. They were great at first but after a few skate sessions they broke down and the built in arch support seems to have relaxed to the point where it's taken the form of the boot, like there is no arch support anymore, as a result the pain I was having has re-appeared. Needless to say, i'm going to be taking advantage of their 30 day money back guarantee.

Does anyone have any advice on what else I can do? Thanks

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Bump, please help me!

[Eazy_b97 1]

Get Orthodics. Yes, they are expensive, but they should last you alot longer and they will customized to go in your skates.

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Get Orthodics. Yes, they are expensive, but they should last you alot longer and they will customized to go in your skates.

I went to a place to look into them and they cost ~$385 and the guy said that it's going to be very tough to fit orthotics comfortably in a skate since there is virtually no extra room.

[Sven 1]

Ive got a SHOCKDOCTOR question:

the back of the packaging says that they are heat modable in a skate heating fit system (... you know what i mean).

so my question is, am i able to put them in my home oven (with air convention mode) and put them into my skates and put them on so that they can get the shape of my feet ?

i would wrap them in a wet towel so that they cant break down.

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The skates just weren't right for my foot, I have a high arch and Pro Tacks were designed for people with very flat feet, and no insole or arch support was able to compensate for it.

I ended up buying a pair of Bauer 8090's and love them, didn't need any arch supports, insoles, or anything... i'm even using the OEM insole. I've learned that if your skate fits you properly, you should not need to buy aftermarket insoles or arch supports.

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Ive got a SHOCKDOCTOR question:

the back of the packaging says that they are heat modable in a skate heating fit system (... you know what i mean).

so my question is, am i able to put them in my home oven (with air convention mode) and put them into my skates and put them on so that they can get the shape of my feet ?

i would wrap them in a wet towel so that they cant break down.

You do not need to wrap them in a wet towel, if they're heat moldable they will not break down if you put them in the oven. I would set the insoles on TOP of a towel or piece of tin foil, but don't wrap them in a towel.

Just put them in the oven, then immediately put them in your skates and lace them up.