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New Revision Hockey Wheel

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The proshop at my local rink has new wheels I never heard of before. They are called "Revision". 3 different types: Bronze - 74a, Gold - 72a, Platinum - 70a. They are very grippy and have this metal ring on the inside core which allows a stiff resistance when in tight turns. Also, the core is hollow, and makes the wheel pretty darn light.

Anyone heard of these before? A couple of the guys I play with are starting to use them, and they really like them. Im a RinkRat guy myself, but Im always looking for ways to help my game.

They have a website, www.revisionhockey.com. Its pretty cool. -sorry to the mods if Im not supposed to post websites like that-

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lol....the website is the BIGGEST self indulgent wank.

"Since the foundation of roller hockey, there has been one question, "How can you get the grippiest, fastest, longest lasting wheel at a reasonable price?" Manufacturers to date have responded with, 'It's not possible.'"

Have they heard of RinkRat? Me thinks not.

Still I'd give them a try If given a sample set *wink, wink, nudge, nudge*

PS: Who did their logo? The work experience kid? :P

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These wheels sound very intresting!! I think this company will either do very well or die very quick, with there 30 day warrenty the are offering!! Are any other companies offering this warrenty. How much do these wheels cost??

Hey aussie joe did you play in the IIHF Wc in bad tolz??? If so what number were you??? :blink:

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They couldn't have picked a worse font to use for their navigation. At least use a font that doesn't strain my eyes while trying to read it. Anyone had their speakers on during the flash intro? The background music is ANNOYING.

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Hey aussie joe did you play in the IIHF Wc in bad tolz??? If so what number were you??? :blink:

Unfortunately I did not compete in Bad Tolz last year. I was there however a week prior to the tournament but only as a visitor as I was travelling through Bavaria to Austria. Around that time I travelled through Europe (Germany in particular) completeing my live long dream of meeting my Family in Germany. The avatar is homage to that more or less.

Gotta say though the Rink in Bad Tolz was smaller than I thought it would be. But much more well designed then I had thought either.

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From a quick glance around the it looks similar to the Rinkrat idea, but they took it a bit further with a hollow core. I'd think the grip would be better, but the speed would be lacking due to the lack of rebound.

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I sprung for a set today at my LHS. They wheels are not cheap. They are lighter than the RR Hornets that I switched them for. As far as how they perform, Ill let you know later this week when Ive been on them for a bit.

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OK, I used the wheels last night for the 1st time. Here's what I thought:

The wheels were not as light as I hoped. I think the Gripper Lites are a bit lighter. They were not bad though, a bit lighter than the RR Hornets I use. Straight away speed is GREAT. Better than the RRs. I would coast, then just take off and stay fast throughout my strides. Very nice. Grip was pretty darn good too. As good as the RR, not better though. Turning and cornering felt tight. I guess the metal ring on the inside core of the wheel works. I felt very stable. Again, only slightly better than the RRs. The overall feel of the wheel, something I noticed right away, was how stiff they felt. It kinda felt like I had 4 rocks under my skates. The RRs are soft and cushiony, due to their soft inner core. I guess I got used to them. The extra stiffness definatey makes them faster than RRs in straightaway speed. I'd say if you see them, give them a try. Something new that is fast and light. Can't really go wrong with that. I have yet to see how the grip holds up. The RRs have held up nice for me. I will always be a proud RR user, so I'm sure I'll go back to them once these will kick.

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I think there is only 1 model, just in 3 different colors/durometers. I used a Gold-gold-gold-platinum set up.

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Both of those listed under the "players" section of the Revision webpage play out of the local rink in Lanlgey, BC (Sportsplex). Kirk has been on the Revision poster for some time. When I bump into him next i'll ask what the true quality of the wheels are.

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From a quick glance around the it looks similar to the Rinkrat idea, but they took it a bit further with a hollow core. I'd think the grip would be better, but the speed would be lacking due to the lack of rebound.

Actually they are almost the opposite concept....RR wheels use a very soft "bouncy ball" material on the inside and a harder durometer on the outside, so there is increased wheel deflection at the contact point to increase grip, but then still have a harder durometer outside surface to resist wear.

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I just looked over the idea, I definately could've completely missed the point as I was running out to class, but the way I saw it was. A completely hollow core, which is supported by a rubber band (which is hollow and connected to the inner core) and then it has a hard shell around it. Basically the RR wheels, with a hollow inside rather than just a soft inside.

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Except they have (Revision) a steel inner ring which is what makes then so stiff and hard (and roll faster), and different from the RR wheels.

The Revision wheels use a softer external material for grip. The hollow part is simply for purposes of reducing the weight, not to act as a cushion like the soft inner compound on the RR wheels...see how they are almost the opposite? They are using a stiff inner (from the steel ring), and a soft outer for grip. RR's use a very soft but high rebound material inside, and a harder outer layer, for wear. The soft inner core allows the harder outer core to deflect more which is what creates the added grip, the additional wear is from using harder external materials(and a different compound as well)

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There's no comparison in the wheels. They have hollowed out the middle allowing air inside, we have a highly resiliant super ball material"soft" to emulate the air. Think of it as a car tire. A car tire is filled with air allowing your tire to compress and flatten out while turning thus giving you more tread or tire on the road. This is what stops you from sliding off the highway. The problem with air is that it has no rebound to it. What we have done is replace the air with the superball material that emulates the air giving you a wheel that flattens out when you turn but also gives you a rebound when taking your stride... An air tire cant do that because air is dead.

Go to Rinkrat.com for the full details but remember this we have said from the beginning to beware of immitations. Beware of market confussion...

Rink Rat is the only wheel in the world that can have the soft inner hard outer..

***We have 2 patents to prove it***

Mike

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Just out of curiousity, whats the deal with the Factory wheels then? how is their technology different then say a rinkrat or a labeda. I just got a set of the factory wheels but haven't had enough time testing them out to really say how they rate compared to the rinkrats i've used in the past

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Except they have (Revision) a steel inner ring which is what makes then so stiff and hard (and roll faster), and different from the RR wheels.

The Revision wheels use a softer external material for grip. The hollow part is simply for purposes of reducing the weight, not to act as a cushion like the soft inner compound on the RR wheels...see how they are almost the opposite? They are using a stiff inner (from the steel ring), and a soft outer for grip. RR's use a very soft but high rebound material inside, and a harder outer layer, for wear. The soft inner core allows the harder outer core to deflect more which is what creates the added grip, the additional wear is from using harder external materials(and a different compound as well)

I do now, thanks for the clarification. I wasn't aware of the steel ring.

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the factory is based on, for the most part, an all urethane wheel..core etc...and the core allowing the wheel to flex in more directions side-side while retaining that ever elusive vertical stiffness..

the z rated is based more of a moto tire..took a bit longer to come out after Boyd left Hyper etc..but if any of you skated on the original BSR proto's..they became the ZRated's

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The factory wheels are pretty good. I've skated the Z-Rated wheels and they feel a lot different than most wheels. They take a little getting used to, but once you do, they are pretty sweet.

I can't understand why people like the rinkrat wheels. I've skate both the hot shots and hornets (which were way too expensive) and they aren;t particularly grippy or long lasting? And what's this superball crap about? Anyways, I'm open to trying just about anything. I used to skate the Hyper Formula G's for years, back in the day, and I loved them, then along came Labeda with the Millenims and Dynasty's and those were pretty good too, and then I read all this hype about Rink Rats so I tried those . I hate to sound foolish, but now I know that I wasted my money on a new gimmick.

So I noticed that Hyper was bringing back the old school Formula G's, so now I'm back on those and I'm happy with my decision. There's nothing really fancy about them, I don't have to give up my first born to afford them and they grip like a son of a B**CH!!! That' good enough for me.

The moral of my story: If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

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I disagree Dynasty. I almost always use RR Hornets and they Grip like Crazy. I agree there are gimicks out there but I dont think that there is a wheel that grips like RR Hornets on sport court. I wanna try revision wheels but I cant see them being any better then RR. The only wheel I have used that I think grips like RR are the Labeda Dynasty's

Tomas

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I see Hornet's for 8.99 a wheel..i don't think its that bad for a high end wheel..and on par with most others..

most of the Hyper guys skate a mix of Formula G's and Trinity's..and have for years....although some of the new stuff coming out in the coming months appears to be pretty cool..i think its more of a late spring launch though..

last year a couple guys were testing a single pour trinity type urethane and loved it..wonder if that will be on the market in '05?

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