P86 / ZEGRAS curve

[A2rhino 63]

Hey gang,

I keep hearing that CCM will be releasing this as their newest curve. Is there any truth to this and if so when should we expect it?

[Tony9 1]

the Kucherov curve from Bauer .......is the same thing ???

[Sniper9 535]

1 hour ago, Tony9 said:

the Kucherov curve from Bauer .......is the same thing ???

Nope

[A2rhino 63]

Agreed, It is not the same curve. 

[flip12 717]

On 1/14/2025 at 3:34 PM, Tony9 said:

the Kucherov curve from Bauer .......is the same thing ???

Kucherov uses a very slight variation of a basic P28 (which varies at retail from company to company). I’ve read he uses the Fisher variant, perhaps the original P28, but I can’t confirm.
 

I wish someone would do a podcast with Fisher to talk to him about his gear. His blade is possibly his greatest contribution to the game, but he was also an early tester on CURV boots and who knows what else.

Edited January 16 by flip12

[start_today 772]

7 hours ago, flip12 said:

I wish someone would do a podcast with Fisher to talk to him about his gear. His blade is possibly his greatest contribution to the game, but he was also an early tester on CURV boots and who knows what else.

For some of us who are old and set in our ways, as person who both contributed to the proliferation of p28esque curves and ultra-stiff boots, this guy is bordering on super villain status. 

[Tony9 1]

11 hours ago, flip12 said:

Kucherov uses a very slight variation of a basic P28 (which varies at retail from company to company). I’ve read he uses the Fisher variant, perhaps the original P28, but I can’t confirm.
 

I wish someone would do a podcast with Fisher to talk to him about his gear. His blade is possibly his greatest contribution to the game, but he was also an early tester on CURV boots and who knows what else.

I began using the Kucherov  Bauer curve (pro stock Bauer 2NPROXL "Sync wrapped" from Hockey East team) about two yrs ago, my fave & sticking w it.   I was using a P92 prior to that, but I finally prefered the slight shorter blade length + the toe shape of the P28/Kucherov (pulling the puck is so easy, shooting seems easier for myself).    MyBauer states that the Kuch curve has slight less wedge, more upright than the normal P28.   The video of Celebrini describing his curve (Zegras) is what got me over thinking the topic.  P86 I assumed = Kucherov ...... the Zegras can be described as a P28 blade shape but a longer length, like the P92 ??

 

https://x.com/geargeekhockey/status/1868011672885215396

 

thanks for the feedback. 

Edited January 16 by Tony9

[flip12 717]

1 hour ago, Tony9 said:

I began using the Kucherov  Bauer curve (pro stock Bauer 2NPROSE "Sync wrapped" from Hockey East team) about two yrs ago, my fave & sticking w it.   I was using a P92 prior to that, but I finally prefered the slight shorter blade length + the toe shape of the P28/Kucherov (pulling the puck is so easy, shooting seems easier for myself).    MyBauer states that the Kuch curve has slight less wedge, more upright than the normal P28.   The video of Celebrini describing his curve (Zegras) is what got me over thinking the topic.  P86 I assumed = Kucherov ...... the Zegras can be described as a P28 blade shape but a longer length, like the P92 ??

Z

https://x.com/geargeekhockey/status/1868011672885215396

 

thanks for the feedback. 

Forgot about the P86 angle, that makes perfect sense. Kucherov was a P92 guy before switching, as was Fisher. There might be something to that variant (if Kuch is using the Fisher) for those that want a little less wedge. I hope to get my hands on a Kuch stick soon. I’m a big fan of the P28, but a slightly less lofted version would be nice.

How are you sourcing your Kucherov habit now? Are you going with MyBauer for all your sticks? I wish GePROtto would offer the Kucherov.

[Tony9 1]

21 minutes ago, flip12 said:

Forgot about the P86 angle, that makes perfect sense. Kucherov was a P92 guy before switching, as was Fisher. There might be something to that variant (if Kuch is using the Fisher) for those that want a little less wedge. I hope to get my hands on a Kuch stick soon. I’m a big fan of the P28, but a slightly less lofted version would be nice.

How are you sourcing your Kucherov habit now? Are you going with MyBauer for all your sticks? I wish GePROtto would offer the Kucherov.

SLS site ......... just search Kucherov of course.  I've had good luck in the past.   Currently these are numerous G3 build of his Hyperlite listed.  

 

https://sidelineswap.com/gear/hockey/sticks/8674528-bauer-used-once-kucherov-blacked-out-hyperlite-g3-profile-77-flex-kucherov-curve-stick-76

 

(edit...mine were XL and not SE)

Mine were from a college team, 2NPROXL w full tactile, 77 flex ......from two separate sellers, the same stick code, from 2023 stock.  I thought I did good getting four total, shipping + tax included = $210 per stick

Edited January 16 by Tony9

[A2rhino 63]

This is the best video I have found on the P86 and description of the blade.

https://www.instagram.com/hockeystickman/reel/C9N4I5EskR2/

[Sniper9 535]

On 1/15/2025 at 11:22 PM, flip12 said:

Kucherov uses a very slight variation of a basic P28 (which varies at retail from company to company). I’ve read he uses the Fisher variant, perhaps the original P28, but I can’t confirm.
 

I wish someone would do a podcast with Fisher to talk to him about his gear. His blade is possibly his greatest contribution to the game, but he was also an early tester on CURV boots and who knows what else.

I use the p28 and CCM is my least favorite of the p28s but ccm is currently my go to brand since I like their sticks best. Ccm definitely has a less of a toe kink than say bauer and true 😔

Edited January 17 by Sniper9

[flip12 717]

5 minutes ago, Sniper9 said:

I use the p28 and CCM is my least favorite of the p28s but ccm is currently my go to brand since I like their sticks best. Ccm definitely has a less of a toe kink than say bauer and true 😔

Ha. I noticed that about CCM's P28, and Warrior's seems closer to that than Bauer. (TC4 was its own thing last I checked, they may have changed it.) I like CCM's sticks too, but the slightly more vanilla toe on the CCM and Warrior really appeal to me. Bauer's is a bit too augmented for my taste. Luckily, any P28 I've tried feels so nice compared to most curves that I don't have to look at it much when I'm using it.

[mcne0101 16]

I just got a prostock with a p86 Zegras. Its exactly the shape of a p92 with the p28 toe curve at the end, not sure how else to describe it. 

I've heard the same about CCM making it a retail curve, I hope they do it.

Edited January 21 by mcne0101

[flip12 717]

I think what’s confusing is the discussion of it being the P28 curve with the P92 face. It looks more like it’s what you describe, just a regular P92 curve with a little bump at the toe.

[Buzz_LightBeer 970]

It may be available in the pro bank, but it isnt listed as an offering in the 2025 catalog

Edited January 22 by Buzz_LightBeer

[A2rhino 63]

12 hours ago, Buzz_LightBeer said:

It may be available in the pro bank, but it isnt listed as an offering in the 2025 catalog

Thank you for the answer to this question.