bthompson1286 5 Report post Posted February 25 (edited) Hey everyone, I’m currently on my last pair of Bauer X:60s. I was able to get 4 pairs of these skates over the years because I loved the fit and feel. I’ve tested out some carbon boot models, like the Bauer APX and the Bauer 1X. However, the fit in both of those didn’t quite match the X:60, even though they’re still from the Vapor line. Does anyone have any recommendations for a skate that provides a similar fit to the X:60 but with a carbon boot? I’m also looking for high-end stiffness. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated! Thanks! Edited February 25 by bthompson1286 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flip12 718 Report post Posted February 25 It might help if you share more info about what didn't work for you in the fit change between the TechMesh and CURV builds. It also sounds like you haven't tried the new 3 Fit System. If I recall correctly, that started with the second season of the 2X. Also, what size do you wear in X:60s and how long does a pair tend to last you? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bthompson1286 5 Report post Posted February 25 (edited) 13 minutes ago, flip12 said: It might help if you share more info about what didn't work for you in the fit change between the TechMesh and CURV builds. It also sounds like you haven't tried the new 3 Fit System. If I recall correctly, that started with the second season of the 2X. Also, what size do you wear in X:60s and how long does a pair tend to last you? I'm a size 9D. The APX and the 1X didn't feel as close to my foot as the x:60. I may need to try again. Also the sizing seemed different as well. I'm a 9D in X:60 but the 9D in the APX felt bigger. Edited February 25 by bthompson1286 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flip12 718 Report post Posted Wednesday at 08:58 AM (edited) 14 hours ago, bthompson1286 said: I'm a size 9D. The APX and the 1X didn't feel as close to my foot as the x:60. I may need to try again. Also the sizing seemed different as well. I'm a 9D in X:60 but the 9D in the APX felt bigger. I believe the big difference for a lot of people in the jump from TechMesh to CURV Vapors was the forefoot having more of a curved shape…I think they called it TrueLasted or something. But damnit I wish you had said something about running dry months ago. Someone on Kleinanzeigen (German classifieds) sold three or four pairs of barely used if not new 9D TechMesh Vapors a few months ago. They had X7.0, X90, a couple other skins. I was eyeing them with envy because I’m a 9.5D! In the new Fit System I’m a 9-Fit 1, because of the new toe cap. I’ve only tried them on though, haven’t gone for skate in any Vapors newer than X100 (APX2 gen.). Edited Wednesday at 10:35 AM by flip12 Fit System reference Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
strosedefence34 176 Report post Posted Wednesday at 01:27 PM Alternatively you could delay going to a curve boot even longer by trying to source the Pro Stock Bauer V Cut skates https://www.sighockey.com/collections/player-skates/products/bauer-vapor-2x-pro-v-cut-hockey-skates-9-d-a-280-ls-fly-ti 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nisselrm 21 Report post Posted 13 hours ago Order a classic/custom graf? after my disastrous experience with true it may be my next move. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bthompson1286 5 Report post Posted 11 hours ago An update to this. So I tried on new skates. My X:60s fit the same as they always have. The carbon boots from bauer seem to fit a half size down than my x:60s. I'm concerned by this because of the holder size change. When I try the same size in both skates, there is a sizing difference. A 9 fit1 and a 9D has a length difference Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bthompson1286 5 Report post Posted 10 hours ago 2 hours ago, nisselrm said: Order a classic/custom graf? after my disastrous experience with true it may be my next move. what happened with your trues? I have heard the same thing. From what I read, trues are not sized correctly at all to be a custom skate Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nisselrm 21 Report post Posted 10 hours ago I came from two pairs of retail makos, which I liked more than any of the 4+ iterations of full custom vapors. the first pair fit great everywhere except the toes. They were at least a size too small. Holders were 288 vs the 296 if always skated on. i sent them back and they made minimum isl improvements, I believe they just pulled the foam from the toe and sent them back. i still found them unwearable. True refused to continue working with me and just refunded the money. i have retail hyperlites now which are fine and generally comfortable but frankly feel like a generic boot compared to the true and mako which is to be expected. At this point, I’m considering retail true skates so I can control the fit in the store but am worried about durability issues from everything I saw with their previous lines. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nisselrm 21 Report post Posted 10 hours ago 31 minutes ago, bthompson1286 said: An update to this. So I tried on new skates. My X:60s fit the same as they always have. The carbon boots from bauer seem to fit a half size down than my x:60s. I'm concerned by this because of the holder size change. When I try the same size in both skates, there is a sizing difference. A 9 fit1 and a 9D has a length difference They are longer and deeper than the old “D” width. My vapors overwrap worse than they used to with the lack of ankle padding and I have to lace them differently to get forward flex. was never an issue in my DAA vapors. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites