Moore files lawsuit

[DrMolotov 0]

I don't think he really had much of a choice, and its not without precident. Bottom line is he will never play hockey again, and if someone robbed me of the right to make a living I'd go after them for everything I could and I think everyone here would do the same.

What would you be saying if Steve Moore had died from his injuries?

[DrMolotov 0]

Adding Brab May to his lawsuit is BS. I think the league let everyone down on this one by not punishing Moore for his cheap shot on Naslund. I believe that if he'd been suspended it would never have come to this. Nothing justifies attacking a man from behind though and if Bertuzzi should never be reinstated, it'll never happen though.

[DrMolotov 0]

I can't believe he filed for a law suit. I believe that Bert knew he did somthing wrong and was really sorry for it. Moore really holds a grudge against people.

Now I leave you with a quote from Waynes World: Why if a man kills another in battle it's heroic, yet if he kills a man in the heat of passion, it's called murder?

Think about it.

Did you also know that Todd Bertuzzi has never appologized to Steve Moore personally?

[SR27 0]

I think he (i.e. his lawyers) did the right thing. What if this guy is never again able to work or earn a living for his family? just think about it....

[ponty 0]

Back in the 80's there would have been a bench clearing brawl WHEN it occured. It would then have been done ... caput.

If someone had a problem with Moore on the Canucks they should have dropped them when it happened. THAT IS IN FACT THE HOCKEY CODE that some have misinterpreted.

Say what you want about fighting but in this case it would have helped.

[GekigangarIII 0]

I still say Moore knew full well the hit on Naslund was dirty. 4th liner or not, hitting a guy's legs going at him laterally when he's 10 feet behind the puck is a dirty hit.

All that aside though (like it matters anymore)

Is anyone else suprised that this comes so soon after finding out that the season is cancelled? Hmmm.. SOMEONE is gonna get paid this season (whether he can play or not). I don't know Moore's physical condition, but if his goal is as the lawsuit statement claims to "get well and play hockey again as soon as possible", then what exactly is this lawsuit supposed to accomplish? Getting your pockets lined (whether you deserve it or not) doesn't put you back on the ice.

I'm sorry but this type of injury is something for insurance, not compensation. Get back to the game and stop the lawsuits.

I don't know, I'm just jaded.. It's hard for me to find sympathy with either side on this one. Moore knew he punched his card when he blinded Naslund, Bertuzzi was an absolute moron that gave the league a bad name, lawsuits like this only hurt it even more..

[McCabe#1 0]

His hit on Naslund was clean, maybe borderline, but clean. He fought in the game he got injured as well. How many times do you have to stick up for yourself for a clean play. Last I checked, hockey was a contact sport. People just don't like that a player thats not as good as Naslund hit him hard. Maybe next time Naslund will keep his head up.

[ponty 0]

It was a border line hit. My issue is if the the Canucks had an issue with it take it up with him up front face-to-face. I can understand them being mad its how they went about getting "even."

Does anyone remember all the cheap shots Ruttu put on Forsberg that game???? Forsberg got hurt in that game as well and was out longer than Naslund. That got burried behind this mess.

I digress ... I will stop now ... OK try to stop.

[Eazy_b97 1]

I personally don't think it was a clean hit because Naslund had lost control of it, and from everything I have seen, was basically on the ice already. The hit served no purpose. It was a cheapshot meant to hurt Naslund.

Bertuzzi's actions were not appropriate, I understand this, but I also measure it against alot of other acts which went without any of this hype, Namely Johnson on Beukeboom. The consqeuences were almost identical for Beukeboom, but he did it without the legal issues.

If I cheapshot someone on the ice, which I don't do often, but it does happen, I expect it from that team for the rest of the year. Maybe it's because of the area I come from, the players I play with or against, but a battle is a battle is a battle. I think Bert blacked out when he did this, I think his anger got the best of him and it wasn't a conscious decision.

For the Record I am not a 'Nucks fan and have never been a huge fan of Bertuzzi, but with all that has happened I seem to think he has handled it fairly well. The lack of appology, I don't, but overall, decently.

[GekigangarIII 0]

People just don't like that a player thats not as good as Naslund hit him hard. Maybe next time Naslund will keep his head up.

Um, Naslund was stretching for a loose puck about 10' in front of him and Moore hits him from the side... I guess guys are supposed to have curb feelers on the sides of their helmets to feel players coming?

I could care less about who the players are.. it was the kind of hit a player puts into a guy in the heat of the moment because he thinks it's "finishing a check" but if they had the sense to realize what they were doing at the time they probably wouldn't do it at all. Nobody is going to convince me that Moore didn't intend to run the player in front of him (whether he knew who it was doesn't matter).

I don't give a crap about "I guess so and so can't hit so and so" or people that argue that it's just because it's Moore doing the hitting... I can't think of one player that I respect hitting another player like that. Because they HAVE respect. I've got none for Moore or Bertuzzi.

Whether people want to argue that the hit was "clean" or not.. I could care, it was a dirty little bitch hit plain and simple. You don't lower your shoulder and hit someone in the head from the side with your shoulder/elbow and say it's clean...

[GekigangarIII 0]

It was a border line hit. My issue is if the the Canucks had an issue with it take it up with him up front face-to-face. I can understand them being mad its how they went about getting "even."

I agree Ponty, what's really sad is that Naslund was totally the bigger man out of all of this and even said he never though Moore intended to hurt him and that he didn't want any form of retaliation in his name. I thought that was a classy thing to do. I know if I were in that position I'd have a tough time saying that... then his teamates go out and disrespect his wishes and add his name (Naslund) to the whole thing...

On a lighter side note, did Moore's attourney add Naslund to the list? I mean it is Naslund's fault for the entire ordeal. If he would have just "had his head up" none of this would have ever happened! Maybe Bertuzzi should sue Naslund as well...

[McCabe#1 0]

I agree with Theo.

[GekigangarIII 0]

Anyone have a clip of it though, to refresh my memory?

I'd like to see it again too to see if my mind is playing tricks on me about the hit. I did see it during the game (tv) and it didn't seem that bad in the game, but the next day I saw it on sportsnet at the rink while I was lacing up and they showed it a couple times and it just looked horrible. I remember distinctly noting that Moore swerved into him and had plenty of time to lighten up or get out of the way. That was when my opinion on it changed.

[mack 44]

My measley .02 is going to be that the original hit--while dirty, clean, however it's viewed--was on the team's best player and was once worth a healthy retaliation. Due to the womanised nature of the NHL, it wasn't avenged then like it should be and spoiled into something that no one wanted to happen.

Like Ponty said, bottom line is it should have been taken care of right then and there. I thought it was over once Cooke scrapped with him but at that point it was apparent that wasn't going to settle anything.

[Eazy_b97 1]

The plays happen so fast in the NHL, I highly doubt Moore or any player could really see the position Naslund was in. You simply do not have the time. Did he want to finish the check? Like any player, sure. But its not like he was able to plan it out frame by frame.

That split second of time is an excuse for a dirty hit for Moore, but a reason Bert should be tried in all of this?

I really cannot speak for Bert and Moore, but I know from my experiences, when I do something on similar to what Bert did its more a "black-out" thing and happens in a split second. You honestly don't know how or why you did it, but you did. When you see a player like Naslund in the position he is, you are also faced with a decision, a decision to follow through or not (yes it's a split second, but the decision still happens just as quick as Berts). Generally I am more aware of what I am doing on a hit like Moore's than on an attack like Bertuzzi's. I can only speak from personal experience, and I know alot of you will not understand what I have said, just because your control is alot better than mine, and obviously Bert's.

[ponty 0]

Wasnt the original game in Colorado? My other issue is that they waited to go back home.

If this was indeed the case I thinks that was big time bush.

[Eazy_b97 1]

Wasnt the original game in Colorado? My other issue is that they waited to go back home.

If this was indeed the case I thinks that was big time bush.

Yes. Hit on Nassy --> Colorado

Next Game --> Colorado (Victoy for Col as well I believe, but close game)

Incident Game --> Vancouver, roughly 2 weeks later. Blowout as well all know.

[GekigangarIII 0]

Nope easy...Sorry.

Bert's was pre-meditated *100. Not even close to the hit by Moore (Clean or dirty).

There's just no question. Even if Moore's hit was 100% intentional, Bertuzzi's was totally premeditated. Moore was at very *least* playing the game during his.

[McCabe#1 0]

Theo is DEAD ON!

[sherwood21 0]

I personally don't think it was a clean hit because Naslund had lost control of it, and from everything I have seen, was basically on the ice already. The hit served no purpose. It was a cheapshot meant to hurt Naslund.

Great Point, the point of hitting in hockey, at the grassroots level is to knock the man off of the puck, not to knock him out of the game. I remember after the Scott Stevens on Lindros hit, the announcer said that "you can tell Stevens feels bad about that hit." I don't agree with either side here, they both had their reasons but it just sucks all the way around <_<

[mickz 107]

Steve Moore is lucky he didn't get any suspensions, not even a penalty, for that cheap shot on Markus Naslund. Last time I checked in the rule book, a knee* to the head wasn't a considered a clean hit. Steve Moore, who cares, not like he had much of a future anyway. I would only expect him to become a farm player at most.

*i meant shoulder, not knee

[flaming_june 2]

he hit nazzy with his shoulder/ elbow, not the knees

btw if you guys wana see the nazzy hit, tsn.ca video department has the story about the lawsuit, and has that hit in slow motion.

it clearly showed that the hit was moore's shoulder to the face of nazzy

[seanmccann 3]

Steve Moore is lucky he didn't get any suspensions, not even a penalty, for that cheap shot on Markus Naslund. Last time I checked in the rule book, a knee to the head wasn't a considered a clean hit. Steve Moore, who cares, not like he had much of a future anyway. I would only expect him to become a farm player at most.

man, he could have been paralized.

[MDE3 0]

Last time I checked in the rule book, a knee to the head wasn't a considered a clean hit.

it still isn't.....but like the man said, go study the hit for a while in slow motion..objectively.

[jnicklo 0]

I say GOOD FOR MOORE!

Bertuzzi is a piece of garbage and a coward. If it were up to me the man would be suspended for AT LEAST 2 seasons. This should be a lesson to anyone else in Hockey thinking of pulling crap like that ever again.

(Mind you I'm the farthest thing from an Avs fan) ;)