ladystorm3 0 Report post Posted April 10, 2005 i have noticed that the new misisons are just not as good as the old missions. i liked the old ones better then the new "high tech fancy looking missions. they used to be original and 1 of a kind, now they are just getting ugly!heres some links of old misisons---http://inlinesports.com/skate_temp.cfm?productid=vsivibesalehttp://inlinesports.com/skate_temp.cfm?productid=protovsi99http://inlinesports.com/skate_temp.cfm?productid=protovi2000here are some new ones---http://inlinesports.com/skate_temp.cfm?pro...05mission950skthttp://inlinesports.com/skate_temp.cfm?pro...missionhe350skthttp://inlinesports.com/skate_temp.cfm?productid=missiond3cwhat do u all think?wich ones are more comfterble? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notorious#29 0 Report post Posted April 10, 2005 Comfort wise the new ones take the cake. Yeah durabilty might be suffering a bit compared to the old ones, but other then that I cant think of any other reason why I woulld choose the older ones. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mik3 1 Report post Posted April 10, 2005 Other than wicked lights and type Ms I've owned a pair of just about every generation of mission skates. And I'd easily take my 950s over my proto VSIs, flow series, team vsis, and D1s. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ladystorm3 0 Report post Posted April 10, 2005 i like the designs of the older ones, but i would like the comfort of the new ones now that i think about it.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eazy_b97 1 Report post Posted April 10, 2005 I couldn't have been happeir with my old school Missions, but recently I am trying out a few differen't things just because the looks put me off. When I am forking out the kind've cash they want for their top of the line stuff, I'd rather build my own and make it EXACTLY what I want, including looks.Mik - What was your view of the Mod series? I remember seeing them in a few magazines a while ago and now I see them on Ebay. I've never seen them in person, but I've always liked the look of them. How did they differ from the V line? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mik3 1 Report post Posted April 10, 2005 The mod line I felt was similar to the VSX of the time. It was light (for the time) and seemed to just be a better but not as stiff boot compared to the proto series. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevoc 0 Report post Posted April 10, 2005 Personally, I like the looks of last years models the best. I wish the inline skates took on the same look as the pore fly's though. More old school look. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eazy_b97 1 Report post Posted April 10, 2005 I wish the inline skates took on the same look as the pore fly's though. Like these? :)Pure Fly Conversion Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shute 4 Report post Posted April 10, 2005 ya i agree the old missions were nice... and am i the only one who liked the VIBE chassic? i sold my RPM's a few years ago and now i kinda of miss them.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mik3 1 Report post Posted April 10, 2005 Friend of mine actually used vibes from when they came out till the last month. He said it was weird getting used to the hi-los on his nikes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shute 4 Report post Posted April 10, 2005 i really liked the VIBE chassic... i feel like i can turn so much faster when i was on them.. it takes a few games to get use to the falling backwards motion when your turning in them though... i think they should bring it back and put them on the new alloy chassics that are out now. that should solve the weight problem and i think the second gen VIBE that they had were small enough to not cause any problems when your doing sharp turns. also just one shock in the bad is all that is needed.. the front ones on the type-M were kinda of useless. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevoc 0 Report post Posted April 10, 2005 I wish the inline skates took on the same look as the pore fly's though. Like these? :)Pure Fly Conversion Yeah...now were talkin'! :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hockeypunk3 0 Report post Posted April 10, 2005 Well, i think that the older skates were more durable and i liked the look, i still have my Mission Proto SV's from about 4 years ago, buddy of mine bought the RL's last year and some of the stitchign was ripping away from the side panels, if i remember correctly.And my mission proto SV's look pretty good with RR world Cups on them.P.S I play on smooth concrete Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ladystorm3 0 Report post Posted April 10, 2005 everyone i knew with the vibe likede it. what exactly were they for? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevoc 0 Report post Posted April 10, 2005 Here's what I found:“Vibe 2 is a fully adjustable chassis with 0mm to 3 mm of travel, which channels your energy into each wheel and allows you to modulate pressure from toe-to-heal with more balance and control.VIBE allows your wheels urethane to grip and rebound to the max, delivering more pressure where you need for stopping, turning, and powering through every stride, while giving you unequalled sensitivity to the court.†Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ladystorm3 0 Report post Posted April 10, 2005 so it pretty much helps u turn better? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SnakeEyes29 0 Report post Posted April 10, 2005 i hated the vibe2, very heavy also Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
predshockey17 0 Report post Posted April 10, 2005 I just bought Missions that were unused from 2001. They were one of the higher end models. They are so much better then last years Missions for me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shute 4 Report post Posted April 10, 2005 the VIBE chassic has either shocks in the front and back or just the back which allows the wheels to move up and down a bit. all other skates always have 3 wheels on the ground and what the VIBE does is keep 4 wheels on the floor when your skating but when you turn you tend to lead back on your skates a bit so the back shocks/wheel will go up leaving only 3 wheels on the floor and letting you turn faster. but when you skate forward you'll have 4 wheels on the ground and also when you stop as well... bottom line.. 4 wheels when you need the extra speed and stopping power and 3 wheels when you need to turn. it's a win win to me^^. it was a bit heavy back then cause of the extra shocks on the chassic and because of the older boots. but i think with todays boots and alloy chassics they'll be more then fine... your only adding about 150 grams per skate i think.. put those onto a 950 or PF10 and you'll be :D . damn i wish i had the setup! COME ON MISSION HELP ME OUT! ;) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevoc 0 Report post Posted April 11, 2005 I had a pair of skates with the vibe on the back only, I just couldn't stop the vibe from hitting the floor and causing my leg to slip out on stops, sharp turns, etc.Maybe now that my skating habits have improved somewhat that would be different. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sdcopp 1 Report post Posted April 11, 2005 I had a pair of skates with the vibe on the back only, I just couldn't stop the vibe from hitting the floor and causing my leg to slip out on stops, sharp turns, etc.Maybe now that my skating habits have improved somewhat that would be different. I doubt it was your skating habits to begin with. The vibe is up there with the Rocker in my book. No inline chassis should have parts that move like that, it just opens up more to go wrong. The vibe chassis was a difficult one to get used to, and had more issues than just weight as the shocks were prone to breaking, or getting beat up while falling, taking a shot off of the skate, etc. The best skates Mission produced were the Wicked Light and the VSI with the Pro Team Generator chassis, hands down. Mission just simply isn't making as good of skates anymore, period. Since the introduction of the DNA skates, Mission's quality has gone south in a hurry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shute 4 Report post Posted April 11, 2005 i think the problem you have with the VIBE shocks getting in the way when you’re turning if when the first gen shocks.. the second gen shocks which were on the type-M, RPM... lines where much smaller and lighter. still heavy overall but it didn't get in the way anymore... i didn't have any problems with my VIBE chassic but yes i would have to agree that with moving parts comes problems but then again that it with just about everything... i still think it was a good idea and when you got used to the VIBE it did improve your game but i wouldn't say that it made a huge difference.. i would compart it to going from old school rocker to HI-LO, HI-LO to the all 80mm, HI-LO to sensor and ect... some setups don't work out for other people but i just it worked for me.. In terms of MISSIONS quality, yes i do believe that the old skates were better off in terms of their boot quality but if you look around to all the other brands you'll see all around that boot quality isn't what it use to... everyone wants lighter skates and who ever makes the lightest skates will get the sales. sometimes making the lighter skate outweighs the need to make a quality skate and with mission being a smaller company they won't have the budget to spend on RD to develop the same hi-tech materials and design that might be needed like other companies. i for one loved the type-m and the D1 lines so in my book they might come in second to only CCM for one year.. so what, they can't be the best every year. that is what drives this market and at the same time keeps the costs low just like the CPU market. mission as a company that knows what they are doing and i'm sure they'll rebound next year and if not i'm sure they'll still come up very close to the top which in my book is very good for a smaller company like mission.also keep in mind they are only second to CCM in some peoples mind, i think the majority here still agree that missions line this year is still the best. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Justin 1933 134 Report post Posted April 11, 2005 This is a funny topic...Have we changed our views on what is acceptable quality? NO! Did we have issues this year? Yes. Do we have the best warranty in Hockey? Yes...Do we replace your skates if something goes wrong? Yes..The problem with these types of boards is that small issues get blown out of proportion, and all of a sudden you have a giant issue...It is not fair to any manufacture. I can guarantee that not one major manufacturer builds a product and says "who cares if it falls apart in a couple months...The kids will still buy our brand next time." All companies spend hundreds of thousands of dollars trying to develop the best possible products. All manufactures have items that experience problems that never came up during testing. However, those problems are addressed and improvements are made...As for our older skates verse our newer skates, the performance, fit, weight, and comfort of old verse new is not even close. The one skate in my opinion that bucks that is the VSI Team from 2000 and 2001. This is the only skate that still competes with everyone (including ours) in all areas.Looks are subjective, so that should almost be thrown out...One guy may say that X skate looks better than Y, and another guy may say Y looks better than X...Nobody is right...As for next years skates form us.....I believe you will be pleased with all the changes we have made.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neo5370 132 Report post Posted April 11, 2005 Does anyone remember an old gen. VSX boot? Can't quite place the year, but it had an independant ankle flap......VERRRRRY similar to the Graf 707.Did one copy the other, or was that total coincidence?All I know is that was one of the skates I wanted so badly at the time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sdcopp 1 Report post Posted April 11, 2005 Justin, Not to verbally assault yourself or Mission, but the last couple yrs of skates really haven't held up like previous yrs from your company. I stated earlier that the VSI's from 00 and 01 were the best skates you guys ever made, along with the wicked light. Mission has always been known for innovation in inline hockey, but I don't think the product for the last three yrs is quite up to snuff with where Mission has been. I see countless people in the skates from 02, 01, 00 and some from 97-98 when you guys became a major player in the inline game. Now I personally can't stand the feel of your newer skates, as they feel very floppy and unsupportive, but I do use other products from your company and have been generally happy. I haven't used your ice product, so I can't comment on it, but I think it's fair to say that this year's inline product was a bit disappointing for myself at least. If you guys ever do build another VSI skate, let me know, I'd be real interested in your skates again if I could get the super supportive feel up to the tendon guard again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites