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The closest Warrior gloves to the Bauer X60/APX gloves will be the Luxe or the Covert DT1 as Souldriver already suggested. You'll just have to go retail or pro stock with those as they aren't available in the customizer.

I agree with Vet88. I'd keep them, bake them and break them if it's only a couple mm. A proper bake and then breaking them in will give you a few mm of space.

Those 2012 Projekts are a great pickup. Yes, they feel bulkier when you first try them on, but once you play a few games in them they're just as mobile as the 2010 versions and are more protective.

If you want to try to find them in size small, take the mediums up to someone with a computer (I usually ask someone at the pro shop desk if they aren't busy) and get them to scan them. They should then be able to see what's showing in stock at other stores in the area and can also confirm the price for you.

The very top strap does stretch out and loosen up, but the bicep guard is designed to be loose anyway. The middle and bottom strap haven't stretched out on mine and I've used them for over a year. The clearance price at my local Sport Chek was $69.99...it may scan at that when you take it to the cash as the price tags often aren't updated. Also, you can use a team assist coupon to save another 20%: https://team.sportchek.ca/pages/form.jsp That's how I picked up one of my backup pairs. You'll either have to sign up for those and wait a few weeks for them to come or find a friend or teammate who has them already.

Yes, those are the ones.

I'd recommend tracking down some of the 2012 grey and blue Projekts in your size if you can. I used to have the White 2010 pads and yes, they do feel more mobile than the 2012 versions when you first try them on, but are also less protective and the stitches in the middle strap came out for me as well. The 2012 versions feel a little less mobile than the 2010 versions when you first put them on (and the forearm area feels a bit bulky), but are just as mobile in practice, are more protective and I haven't experienced stitching issues with the straps. I did go from a medium in the 2010 versions to a large in the 2012 versions - the 2010 versions fit a bit big and the 2012 versions are more true to size (the fit similar to the same size in most other brands).

He's not the only one. The Projekts are that good. I have my own small stockpile. I picked up some AX1's, but then sold them and just bought another clearance pair of the 2012 Projekts. The AX1's are very nice pads with a great liner and straps and seem to be more protective, but just didn't feel as comfortable and mobile for me as the Projekts. They likely would've felt better had I taken the time to break them in, but the Projekts basically need no break in time and offer all the protection I need for men's league.

I think the Bauers are too long for you based on your foot measurements alone. I can fit into a 7.5EE Bauer skate and my feet are 10.5 inches long and 4.5 inches wide. Based on your measurements I'd say you need a 6D Mako (and likely a 6 in most of the high end Bauer skates as well - sizing can vary by model and year due to the fit profile). My logic is that I've read Makos fit similar to Bauer lengthwise. I know I fit an 8.5 KOR skate and a 7.5 Bauer Skate so the KORs fit one size up from Bauer. I still have a KOR sizing guide and it says that a 7 KOR is 25.6cm, therefore; your size in KOR would be 7 and your Bauer and Mako size would be 6. Using the same logic I'd guess my Mako size would be 7.5EE, but I'd personally try them on before buying them and that wouldn't be too difficult where I live. I said 6D because your feet aren't particularly wide in proportion to the length. The 6D will likely feel very tight when you get them, but fit properly after a good bake. The Makos are meant to have zero negative space - if you buy a pair that's too big it kind of defeats the purpose of getting them. You'll fit into a 6.5 and they'd feel snug at first, but after a bake and breaking them in they'll be a half size too big. Full disclosure: I'm just going by the sizing information I've gathered here for Makos as I've never worn or tried them on so you may want to wait for others to chime in, but I'm fairly confident that 6D would be your size in the Makos. Of course it's always best to try them on in person, but you said that wasn't a possibility.

It's not a good idea to use shoe size as a guide for skate sizes as some people leave more room in their shoes than others. Knowing your skate size in another model (as tight as possible without pain and with your toes brushing the cap) would allow people to provide more accurate guidance. If you don't know that then another option would be to trace and measure your feet and provide those measurements (length and width at the longest and widest points).

The stock varies by location. One Winners had about a dozen gloves, but the other two I went two only had two pairs.

No problem. Glad to help. If you picked up the Z9s the cuff does feel stiff and somewhat restrictive when they're brand new, but if you use them for a few hours it breaks in nicely. I'd try breaking them in before cutting the cuff off - perhaps baking will help accelerate the break in time.

I didn't expect it either - my wife was looking for clothes so I went over to the mens section and came upon them near where they sell the headphones and phone accessories ect. My guess is that they offered Miken the best price for their excess stock when they decided to leave the hockey business - you would've expected them to be cleared out by a major hockey retailer, but I have seen decent baseball bats (RBK Vector) there and at Marshalls (owned by the same company) in the past so this isn't the first time the company that owns Winners has picked up some overstock sports equipment. On a positive note for people looking to find some, they'll probably have better luck finding stock at Winners then they would if a hockey store was blowing the gloves out at this price. A hockey store would likely sell through these gloves a lot faster than Winners at this price, but of course a hockey store would likely also charge a bit more for them unless they really wanted to clear the inventory.

I snagged a pair of Miken Z9s at Winners (for those of you who are in the US and don't know what a Winners is; it's the Canadian version of TJ Maxx) for $39.99. I was already lucky enough to win a pair of these at a previous Modsquad event and still use them for roller hockey. I couldn't pass up getting a second pair at that price. They feel a little stiff in some areas when you first wear them, but break in very nicely after a few games. Davetronz did a detailed LTR on the gloves: http://www.modsquadhockey.com/forums/index.php/topic/61152-miken-razor-z9-glove/ For those of you who prefer a traditional 4 roll style they also had the Miken Pro Fit T gloves for the same price and DR Legends for $34.99. The Miken glove price tags say compare at $80, but I believe that's incorrect and they were both originally around $109 - the Z9 is currently $69 on IW: http://www.inlinewarehouse.com/Miken_Razor_Z9_Hockey_Gloves_Sr_14/descpage-MZ9G.html. The DR Legends were originally $60 gloves and I know Pro Hockey Life has them for $49. Some people on another forum also spotted Viscious 1.5 sticks for $49.99 (entry level sticks and not as good of a deal as the gloves in my opinion) and Miken bags for $29.99. I haven't seen any sticks, but did see the gloves, stick bags ($14.99) and one gear bag at the locations I visited.

Yes, product videos and more pictures would definitely be a great improvement.

Fair enough. I still think it'd be good if they carried the existing Kevlar shirts and/or neck guards from other manufacturers as they are certainly more comfortable than the traditional padded ones. The CSA certification may not be cost effective for the visors either, but if it is it'd certainly be welcome. I like the S30 already, but having something certified would be ideal.

I like both the Tron sk100 and 200 socks for ice - they're both a great value. I find the DJ100 jerseys lightweight, durable and breathable for roller. I've been using the Valken V-Pro pants and V-Elite jerseys and am happy to see that Tron is keeping those going with the Tron versions - I picked up the tron versions of both of those and the quality seems very good. I've only used the pants so far and the girdle is sitting in my closet as a backup for when I wear out the Valken version, but the pants are just as good as the original Valkens - they just have the Tron graphics on them. I use the Tron S30 visor to ref with and am quite happy with it, but technically I shouldn't be using it as I'm supposed to have a CSA certified visor, but its been over a year and no one has said anything. Is there any chance you'll be releasing a CSA certified visor? Something like the Bauer HDO Pro-Clip straight with replacement lenses would be ideal - if I'm forced to get a CSA certified visor that's likely the way I'd go, but the initial visor is more than triple the price of the S30s and even the replacement lenses are almost double the price of the S30. It'd be great to have a more affordable CSA approved Tron option. Beyond a Tron CSA certified visor I'd also like to see Tron carry: BNQ certified Kevlar neck guards like the EQ5 or shirts with built in Kevlar neck guards like the Bauer premium shirts with the grip on the arms (what I currently use). BNQ certified neck guards are required for referees in Canada and for all youth hockey players and the Kevlar neck guards are much more comfortable than the traditional padded neck guards. I'm not sure what the requirements are for USA hockey, but I imagine minor hockey players would have to use them. More dual pour sport court wheels designed for 200lb plus players (selfishly 76mm wheels in particular). 78a Rink Rat Hot Shots or Revision Steel Wheels in 76mm are items I'd like to see - a 78a Tron wheel that's similar to either of those would of course also be of interest. I picked up a couple of the World Cup wheels for my back wheels on clearance (they're designed for outdoor use, but I chew through back wheels like crazy and wanted something harder for durability. They've worked well so far in combination with 78a Hot Shots), but they were the last few 76mm wheels and all the Hornet and Hot Shot wheels in my size and durometer are sold out.. I've heard good things about the Tron indoor wheels and picked up a set for a friend on my last order, but he's about 160lbs so 74a will work for him, but that's far too soft for a player north of 200lbs. I also don't know if I could go back to single pour wheels on sport court after using dual pour wheels for several years (still use single pour on cement, but they're much harder wheels).

Your best bet is to try some pads on, but it seems like that isn't practical so I'll add my fit experiences with a few warrior pads and hopefully that'll help. I currently wear 16" 2010 Warrior Projekts (the white ones) and have tried on the 2012 Projekts (White, but with Blue and Grey accents) and the Dynasty AX1 16" Senior pads. They all seem to be the same length to me, but the AX1 felt like it had a wider knee cap and it also had much more room in the calf protector area (I can easily get the calf tight both Projekt models, but even with the calf fully tightened the calf protector in the Senior AX1s felt a bit roomy). The 2012 Projekts felt the most streamlined out of those three so if you'd like to go with Warrior and want something a little slimmer then I'd just stick to 14" and try to grab some 2012 Projekts on clearance. If you want to go with the latest model and your current 14" pads are the right length then you'll likely want the 14" Intermediate AX1s as those will have less overall volume, but the length will still be 14".

Fair enough - I was just curious. I know the Sprungs feel much faster than the Tuuk Rockers I was previously using, but I haven't used a flat or hilo chassis in ages so I don't know how they are compared to that. I do notice that I need to use harder wheels with the sprungs vs. any chassis I've used in the past, but I'm sure you already tried various wheels. The mount looks great and I really don't know if all coppers are an issue or not as I'm not a mounting expert. I was just curious about that because I have an almost all copper mount myself.

They look great. I know from other threads that you used Sprungs for a few years. Why did you decide to move away from Sprungs? I also notice that all coppers were used for the mount. Did you ask for that or did the shop decide to go that way? In another recent thread it was suggested that ice holders not be mounted with all coppers because the copper holds the chassis tight to the boot, but the steel rivets prevent it from moving side to side. There was some debate on this, but it was suggested that a mixed copper/steel setup was best and that all copper setups could lead to bent steel. Obviously bent steel wouldn't be an issue with roller hockey skates, but I'm not sure if there would be other issues with all copper. I'm curious myself as my current conversion has almost all coppers (8 coppers, 2 steel with Sprungs. 4 coppers at the back, followed by two more coppers at the front, 2 steel and then 2 more coppers). I didn't specifically ask for that - just provided the mounting instructions and that's what the shop chose to use.

I'd also be 100% sure that you actually received a 90/50 the last time. I've used 90/50 for a while and every once in a while I ask for a 90/50, but get something else that has significantly more bite. I notice right away and go back and get it cut properly at 90/50 the next day. I'm not sure why it happens (someone forgets what I asked for, didn't want to change the spinner and didn't think I'd notice, misheard me ect., but it unfortunately has happened a few times). Before switching to FBV I was using a 7/8 regular hollow and 3/4 before that. I first tried the 90/75 FBV and that felt like a bit too much bite, but the 90/50 works well for me and I don't know of a shallower spinner that's readily available at most places.

Amazing find. I'd just leave the black holders on myself, but they are your skates.

I've never heard of the product, but would certainly also be interested in hearing the thoughts of anyone who has had the opportunity to try the chassis. It looks interesting, but at $1995 SEK (the equivalent of $313.04 CAD or $304.92 USD based on todays conversion rates) plus shipping, it's not cheap so it may be a tough sell. I realize that package includes bearings, spacers, tools and wheels, but I think many people would rather use existing bearings and wheels or choose their own in order to get the chassis for a cheaper price. I think they should add a lower cost package that only includes the chassis, spacers and tools. It also seems to only be available for shipping to select European countries at this time so that also limits the people who have access to it at the moment. As a current Sprung user I wouldn't want to go back to a rigid chassis and I know that Sprungs outperform the older Rocker Chassis I used to use (which is probably hard to find now as well). I'm glad to see that there are other non-rigid options being developed. I hope Sprung gets the funds together for another production run, but if they don't I hope this product can perform as well or better, comes down in price and is available in North America at some point. It's being positioned as a training tool for ice players, but the wheel base seems small enough that it would seem to be useable to play inline as well. And if they were available to the US would you be willing to shell out over $300 + shipping and possible customs and duties in the hopes that they perform as well as Sprungs? If I heard from other Sprung users that they perform as well or better and are durable enough to survive several seasons of roller hockey (I'd want to have some players to have skated 30+ games/hours in them) then I'd consider grabbing them if the price were closer to the $100-$150 range. There's no way I'd spend $300+ unless they came with a lifetime warranty...even then I'd be hesitant because it's not a big well known company and who knows how long they'll be around - it's great to see smaller companies innovate and succeed, but it's certainly not an easy business.

I think only the A8 (large) model is in stock and can't predict the future as far as availability goes for sprungs. For those that already own the chassis or can find them used they could put them on this boot - otherwise someone would have to choose another option for a chassis. The point is a person can put whatever chassis they choose on the skates without having to first remove an ice holder. Weight isn't everything. Fit, durability, overall performance and other attributes all play a part, but if you can save some weight on anything that goes on your extremities without sacrificing fit or too much durability then that's a good thing. Sometimes people are a little too hung up on weight though - it's better to have skates that are 100 grams heavier that fit you well then lighter skates that don't fit properly ect. and I don't think most people will notice the difference of 100g or less in practice.

That's 520 grams WITHOUT holders and steel - that's compared to a Bauer X60 without holders and steel at 632 grams, but the comparison to an MLX skate at 900grams isn't fair because that's including the holders and steel. A comparison to the Mako boot without holders and steel or both skates with holders and steel would be more appropriate. Having said that, more innovation and competition should be good for players in the end. It also seems that they're planning to offer just the boots to be mounted on your chassis of choice (either roller or ice) which is what many roller players have desired for years. I imagine these with a set of Sprungs would make for a very nice roller setup.