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Purchased a prostock Trig4 and also a 2N pro. Will give thoughts in a week or two about how I feel they compare... if more pucks are going in with one vs the other, if I feel one shoots harder/faster than the other and so on.

The high prices just mean more demand for the lower end stuff which long term means the prices across the board will go up and retailers can also hold higher prices on older models for longer. These companies aren't dumb. it does nothing but hurt us consumers because seriously... unless you are getting these for free or you're insanely elite, who's using a $400 twig? Was there a real market demand for this? I don't bat an eye at spending $1000 on skates because I can make them last for years and years, but I could snap a $400 stick in 3-4 games.

I didn't pay extra for my ccm holders. Can't speak to the True holders but the XS are very good.

Depending on your flex and curve needs, there's lots of top of the line sticks available from various pro stock websites for <$200. I was dumb and didn't pull the trigger on a 2N pro on this one website for like $190 a few weeks ago. I use P92 or P28 so when inventory comes in, they sell almost instantly.

To me the ADVs felt terrible anyway. Super light blade, the feel was weird and somehow the stick was almost too light. I'd much rather use my FT2 than the ADV. Maybe the Vapor one is different but I gave the one I used right back to the dude in like 2 minutes.

It's all player preference. My FT2 were as stiff as I thought I'd possibly be able to use and when I switched to True's it felt like I Was skating with concrete hiking books on (the stiffness of boot, not the weight). However, I got used to it and I actually like how stiff it is now. I don't think something ultra stiff suits most people but for somebody that weighs 250, I could maybe see stiffness helping to extend life of boot. You really want to get the advice of some of the shop owners here. I only weigh 190 and my Mako's were fairly soft for top level boots and started to really soften up around year 5. If you do go stiffer, you may find yourself wanting to drop an eyelet when you lace. I did with FT2's, but I don't with my True's because they are already fairly aggressively pitched forward.

I'm not material scientist but something tells me that.... you don't. I was always convinced it was a way to get you to use it 2x as fast and order more product again. I used the MAX on its own and was totally fine. I use howie's now and when I re-tape my stick, I will put a ton of it on, then melt it in with my heat gun, then come game time I'll apply another very thin layer. Seems every bit as good as the hockey wax. I can get my tape to last 4 or 5 games before it starts getting really jacked up. Also helps keep ice off the blade in the 3rd period since they only cut the ice once for us.

Get fit for ccm. 90 day no question asked return policy. I used ft1 and ft2 this way, paid $0 to use them for 3 months each.

Don't buy used unless you know it's going to fit your foot really well. Since you can't try them on, it's totally a blind buy, and skate fit does change over time, as you're kind of finding out. Say you normally only spend... $200 on skates that are "new to you". You've just blown that budget and now you still don't have skates you like. Do you skate a lot? I play 2-3x a week in a fairly aggressively men's league and my last skates lasted me 5 seasons before I started to tthink about replacement. If I was cheap (I'm not) I could have easily gotten 1-2 more years out of them. That's 6-7 years for a pair of skates, and even more if you play less that I do. Pretend you bite the bullet and buy a mid range skate for $500. You can't afford to spend $71-83 per YEAR on one of the only things connecting you to the ice while you play?? Hockey skates is one of those things that I will swear up and down that spending the extra buck is worth it. Do you need top of the line Tacks or Jetspeed? No, definitely not. But is trying to cheap your way into an 8 year old skate for $40 over and over again worth the time and hassle just to save a few $$? Nope, not in my opinion. If money is a problem, then save up for a few months and go get fit at a store. You have a pretty normal size foot so I don't see why a big store like Pure or Hockey Monk won't have your size in all the major models. If you love hockey and you love playing, it will be worth it.

Isn't there that one small company that makes the mega gritty blade that also has holes in it? I thought I saw howtohockey/hockeytutorial or some other youtube channel testing these out. No tape was needed. I use lizard skins on my butt end though. Honestly I'd be willing to try just a tape knob on top so my hand isn't constantly slipping off but the traditionalist in me keeps on putting tape or other things there to hold on to...Maybe if I manage to finally snag a 2N pro or 4D pro I'll rock the knob job.

I mean, this matches CCM right? 3 stick lines (Tacks, Jetspeed, Ribcor) and 2 protective lines (Tacks, Jetspeed). For skates...I'm not sure if sales justify it or not but I could see Ribcor skates going bye bye just like Nexus is.

Those look like some thick tongues on those puppies. I actually saw a vid on his YT channel recently where he was skating around outside in NYC for some charity thing and I'm pretty sure he had these skates on.

I can't see the sticks going, it's the number one used/marketed stick in the NHL right now.

5 10, 195. Athletic build - although my body fat is a little higher than I'd like, typical hockey body (big legs/butt/calves). Most jeans I'm 34 waist or L if they just offer S, M or L. I could probably fit in L's for the CCM (I have in the past) but I know for sure I'd be cranking the belt to it's absolute limit.

Yeah before I bought FT2, I tried on the AS1's and it was an okay fit in the forefoot, but the heel pocket was much wider and deeper, and the volume overall was a little higher. FT2 was basically crushing my mid and forefoot, but the heel fit great, so I dealt with it for like... 6 months. I felt that the FT390 had a heel much more similar to the stock AS1, but still had the tighter mid and forefoot area, although in general there was a little more room. I think maybe they let out a little volume near the ankle, and that's what I was feeling and what I didn't like. I've got very narrow heels and ankles, low volume, but wide-ish forefoot... basically my foot is Pizza. Now a days, I would 100% try everything on in a store, would not recommend you blind buy based on feed back here or from OEM's. It gets sketchy when fit fits are changing ever so slightly, even within a certain model.

I've personally found with CCM skates, the top tier models fit a little different than even the model right below the top. This was true for me when I owned FT1 and FT2, when I tried the next model down, it was an instant no go for me, which is partly why I ended up in the top model skate both times. I haven't owned Bauer skates in about 7 years, but when I did... I found that newer models fit pretty differently compared to my old XXX's. Could be because they were so worn in, but I felt like the overall fit had changed so much that I no longer was even close to fitting in them anymore. Thankfully True came along....

I don't own 32's, but I do own 45's and 70's. I would indeed agree they run large. I'm a L in Bauer pants, and use medium in the CCM prostock. FWIW, I wear size 34 waist jeans usually, and the M fits me very well. It's snug but not tight and I only need to tighten the belt a little bit.

So then Burns is using the new FT3 then in it's stock form? If so, I'm really liking the color and might grab one once they hit SLS. Love my FT2 and if the FT3 is somehow even better.. I'm in.

I have the CCM. 0 fog, 0 scratches. Clean it with warm water and soap.. do NOT use anti fog spray, etc. Took me a skate or two to get used to it but so far I'm really liking it. Nobody chirps me for it either... I see a few guys on other teams using one.

Yeah, only thing I can think of... but have CCM officially announced the stick or released any info about it? All the prostock FT3 I've seen in the wild have FT2 paint jobs.

It could be but the lettering and stuff look different than the regular Jetspeed. The shadow series use the same graphics, no? For example, the 2N Pro black has the same letter font and graphic placement, just black/grey where there was once blue. I asked over on s2k, those guys tend to have a lot of insider knowledge.

Why would they wrap with a paint job that looks like a stick that's not currently available at retail? It looks like it says Jetspeed... but... with FT3 just barely hitting pro stock sites, I have no idea what that is. Maybe a limited colorway for the FT2/3 ?

I agree the Jetspeed/QL line is pretty minimal... I have FT390's and they are much less bulky than other pads I've had. But... I play in a league where there's minimal checking and I play forward so I'm not eating too many clap bombs in the chest. With that said, I can't say I know too much about prostock shoulders, but I can say my last pair of Mako shoulder pads were absolute tanks. Longer in the stomach region, bulkier and heavier/more protective than my CCM's. It also has a frontal closure method which allows you to fine tune how tight it gets around your chest, which sounds like that could be beneficial to you. I'm sure you could find a pair out there on eBay or SLS. Worst case.... I could always sell you mine which are a size L. GL.

hockeystickman

I meant they don't have my flex and curve in the AS2 or 1X Lite. The 2N pro they have in my flex and curve. Maybe I need a coma in there or something but... yeah. Writing not my forte. Edit: Going to edit that original post so it reads properly.