caseyjones

Did you use nail polish remover on the holder decals also?

Thanks for all the replies. I have step runners that I’m putting in my 263 holder. I haven’t used them yet though so idk how they would compare.

I need to switch my 254 holder on my graf’s to a 263. Bought a pair a half size smaller and the smaller holder completely through me off balance. I’m a rare case where I’m actually replacing a cobra holder with a cobra holder. My question is can a larger cobra holder be mounted with rivets? Tuuks and other holders are made for rivets but will mounting the cobra with rivets work?

Im having issues with a new conversion. I want to convert a pair of my Graf's with an aluminum chassis. I have the marsblade on a different pair and i love skating on them i just feel that it has zapped a considerable amount of my speed in league play and it's really hindering my game. Here's my issue. I wear a size 6.5/7 skate and i want to get my roller hockey wheelbase as close as possible to my ice skates. I have a ton of 80/72 chassis which are fine, but the problem is with the graf boot I cant position the frames back far enough towards the heel. The outsole of the skate is too narrow and the rivet holes and the frame winds up hanging over the sides of the heel so there's nothing to drill into. I'm wondering if this is a graf thing or a new skate thing. I have older Bauer supreme's and Vapors that seem positioned fine, but being that the Graf skate cannot accommodate moving the frames more towards the heel i get the front wheel sticking out way too far and I cant skate like that. I wanted to have the same skates for roller and ice, but if i have to look into a different boot ( I was thinking either Mako's or an older graf boot with the white plastic outsoles) I will. The other option I am contemplating is buying a jr. size chassis 76/68. I'm just not sure if that will fix the issue or not.

I did this on a pair of Bauer Vapors a while back. The wheel only brushed the bottom slightly though. I just used sandpaper and was able to create enough space on the bottom of the boot for the wheel to spin. I think the Vapors had a contoured bottom of the boot. Your situation might be different, but if its just missing....sandpaper did the trick for me.

Stumbled across this old thread. Thought it would be fun to list mine. 1. Graf Ultra G7 - the skate feels like a slipper. I love the aesthetics of it and have transitioned well to the range of motion the skate allows. 2. Easton Mako M8 - only skated in them twice thus far, but as its known this skate is one of the most anatomical on the market. 3. Micron Mega Air 90's - One of the coolest and most comfortable skates ever made. 4. Bauer H3 roller skates - my first ever "real" pair of skates. These were a revelation coming from the old plastic boot Phantom GT street hockey skates 5. Flite Ultimate custom roller hockey skates - Perhaps the most comfortable boot ever made. Definitely comfort over performance with these though. Boot broke down fairly quick. Other Skates i have had owned: Bauer Vapor 10 - converted back and forth; would have been #1 on my list if not for realizing how poorly fitting these were for me. 10+ years on those and could probably go for another 10 Bauer Supreme 7000 Bauer Supreme 5000 - converted Bauer Supreme 3000 - never skated in Bauer Supreme "Pro" Composite Bauer Supreme "5000" Composite Graf Ultra G3 - never skated in Graf Supra 705 Graf Ultra G5 - havent skated in yet BladeRunner 3 wheel blue/yellow roller blades Phantom GT roller blades Bauer H3 roller CCM Tacks original roller Mission E4 roller Bauer Supreme 5000 roller (purple wheels) *Best roller hockey frame - Kuzak Split

I have a pair and havent had any issues at all. They do have the plastic outsole that does not cover the entire boot and you are left with patches of carbon fiber cloth? on the bottom of the skate but personally i havent had any durability issues. Perhaps you get a hole that doesnt line up on the plastic and you need to improvise a bit, but i think in the end you'll be fine. If you search back a few pages there is probably a picture of my boot and the bottom of them look like they were exposed to a minefield. I filled the holes with epoxy and have put on a marsblade since. I've never had any issues thus far. Im also a smaller player so if your 200+ perhaps problems could arise? I dont know

How many guys use their marsblades for games and not just as a training tool? Im contemplating whether or not to mount one of my Kuzak Split frames onto a boot so i can actually use them in a league. I feel like I would certainly sacrifice some speed with the marsblade frame if i were to use it for competetive hockey.

Thanks man I really appreciate your feedback. Glad to hear they are working out well for you. Does the tongue feel like you can feel the laces through it? That's my biggest concern. I guess that would be classified as lace bite?

Interested to hear your feedback, especially coming from a high end skate such as the x90's. I was thinking about picking up a pair of M7's to convert to roller hockey...i currently have M8's for ice, but i was concerned the quality wouldnt be good enough on the lower end model.

Have you had any experience with the M7? Im thinking of picking up a pair to possibly convert for roller since they are cheap and i now realize how much of an awful fit my Vapors have been for the past 15 years (go figure). Im concerned about the tongue as i tried on a lower end model of Bauers recently just to kill time when i was waiting for my skates to get sharpened that were plenty stiff and supportive, but the tongue just felt like garbage. Seemed to ruin the entire skate. Felt like I could feel every lace of the skate when leaning forward and gave pretty bad lace bite. They may have been Supreme 160's

anyone have issues getting the superfeet insole to sit right in the skate? Mine rocks back and forth depending on where im applying pressure (heel/ball). Obviously with the skates tied this is extremely limited, but id feel better if the insole was gripping the sole of the skate.

Great thanks. Appreciate all your help

I wear a 7 wide in my graf's and got a 7D in the Makos and im fine. I have a couple pairs of regular width Graf's that i can still use that I have minor discomfort in, but I really didnt have any discomfort in the Mako's though. I've never worn Reebok's so i cant compare it to them, but i know that a regular width Vapor kills my feet. I dont know if this helps, but unless your foot is super wide i would think that a regular width Mako should be able to accommodate your foot.

Gave my skates another bake last night. Did 16 minutes at 200 degrees on the convection setting. Skates were definitely hotter and more pliable. i feel like i got a pretty good bake. Oddly enough, i now feel like i have too much room above my toes since i have adrenaline inserts in my grafs. Does anyone use the inserts with their Mako's? Id worry about the insert sticking since the top of the toe cap seems to be covered in felt.

Its funny because i read that throughout the thread and i couldnt wrap my head around it. How could people not even get their feet in skates and then they turn out like slippers? I understood once i got the skates. I could get my feet in, but I had to kind of twist my feet into the boot. They still dont drop right in after i baked them like they would with other skates, but its a lot less troubling. Its still nearly impossible for me to get my hand into the boot though to feel the toe cap though.

Thanks. My oven does have a convection heat setting on it. Maybe ill give it a whirl when i get home. I'll admit they did feel rather comfortable even while not getting the best bake. Certainly much more comfortable than how they felt right out of the box.

Just wanted to thank everyone for all the responses and precautions. Since im a jackass though, i chose to bake them at home instead of driving 45 minutes to a store that would probably charge me $30 to bake them there. I said to myself, "its just heat". I preheated my oven to 200 degrees and then turned the oven off. I had to do one skate at a time because i couldnt fit both into the oven. So i put the skate on a cookie sheet that had a dish towel over it so no parts of the skate would be touching the metal. The left skate i baked for 6 minutes, then flipped it for another 6 minutes. I checked on it during the first few minutes to make sure it was OK. When i removed it the skate still wasnt all that hot or supple. I reinserted the footbed, laced them up and sat down for 15 minutes. Then i took it off and repeated the process for the other skate only i left this skate in for 2 minutes longer (1 min each side). This one was warmer and i feel like i got a better bake out of it, but it still wasnt all that supple. I might try baking the left one again and then using a blowdryer to spot heat the heels for a better heel lock. The lock is pretty good, but doesnt feel as tight as my grafs. Its odd because i feel like my G7's actually still wrap my foot better than the Mako's. However, the Mako's feel comfortable enough while wearing them to not experiment much more with a rebake and risk any damage. Im slightly concerned about the length of the boot, but i think i might be obsessing over nothing. Hopefully nobody is eating lunch but, Is it possible in any way that this boot can be too long for my foot? I dont know why i always feel like i can go smaller. Would there really be any performance benefit to using a smaller boot if my toes are that far up on the footbed already? I also put superfeet into my Mako's because the forward pitch still feels minimal compared to my Graf's. I've also noticed that my G7's feel like they have a much more shallow instep (not sure if thats the right word). It feels as if instead of putting the heel lift between the sole of boot and the holder they are actually built into the inside of the boot. I can still feel myself on my toes in the Mako's, but my heel seems to sit further down in the boot whereas my Graf's literally feel like im wearing high heels (not that its a regular part of my day)

so when they say "if using a different oven" they are just referring to another skate oven that's not an "Easton skate oven"? That would be a bummer. Just want to make sure that they haven't changed protocol on the baking. Would rather avoid having to travel and pay to bake them, but I'll do it if I'm going to risk messing them up at home

So just received my makos and am getting ready to bake. Went back through the thread quick and I see warnings to not bake at home even though the Easton box gives instructions on heating at home. I didn't remember this the first time I went through the thread. Is it really risky for my to throw these in my own oven while following easton's instructions?

Thanks. I hope the local sharpeners by me even know what a fbv is

This isn't a blackstone question, but Ive had my skates sharpened by no icing sports with a fbv and reverse pitch to offset a little of the forward pitch of Graf skates. My question is, will I have any issues if I now take my skates to a local sharpener and just get a regular sharpening? Does he need to know of my previous specidications? I don't care to mess with the pitch or the fbv at this point. I don't think a well enough skater where it would make a difference for me right now.

I will vouch for the inserts and the customer service as well. Skated for the first time yesterday with the inserts. My skates now feel like i have zero negative space and its actually quite comfortable over my toes lol. Couldnt think of skating without them now.

Just ordered a pair of m8's. I don't care much for weight and have a million pairs of skates already so I couldn't see myself paying extra for the 2's. i skate in 7W -7R Graf G7's. I have 3 pairs and they each fit ever so slightly different. I also have a pair of 6.5D mega air 90's that fit like a glove. I went with the 7.0D in makos Bc I didn't want the smaller holder that came with a 6.5 and didn't feel like dealing with any kind of swap. My question would be, has anyone ever experimented with some kind of tape or small strip of padding on the inside of the toe box to fill a tiny negative space? we're probably talking less than a quarter or an inch

Thanks Per. This answers my question just fine. I will use a straight 72mm set up until im ready to experiment with the 68mm in front. Its really nice of you to offer yourself to the general public and be able to answer questions for an average enthusiast like myself. I will certainly recommend your product to others not only because its a great product, but also because this type of customer service just isnt found in todays world anymore. I will share my experience more once I get more skating sessions in. Unfortunately i have an "upper body" injury at the moment. Thanks again!