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That's not true. What if someones steel breaks from a shot? What if like the post above said someone needs replacement steel to mail in? No excuse for one of the major Hockey Skate manufacturers not to have replacement steel/holders ready to go on day 1. Bauer just released a new holder/runner and they are readibly available.There is absolutely no excuse for this. It's poor operational management.
This is not an ideal situation for a skate the company has made their flagship product for the quarter and possibly the future.
Definitely not ideal, but any effect on marketshare would be closer to my mind in the release date debate, especially if I know the market leader's new release is coming soon. On the other side, supporting your argument, Easton's skate releases have been perceived as problematically hasty, so this is just in keeping with that character.
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They were Maine gloves, but I added the yellow on the embroidery. Will most likely add some silver to the glove as well.
Aha, I thought that was an unusual colorway, looks good though. I can see silver working well too.
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Someone made fun of me because of the Mako's, chirping me because of the cost. The best part was his defensive partner was wearing them too. I got a kick out of that.
That's pretty funny. It disqualifies it as chirping in my mind too. Just sounds like someone's a little jealous
Extreme rare find. Made in Taiwan. This is really the OG Flyweight.
I was excited to find these and have had my eyes on a pair for years. They impressed me just on initially trying them on. Can't wait to get them on the ice. Now to find a quality sharpener in Copenhagen!
Getting my Winterfest set dialed in.
Great look. I love the midnight/navy with columbia/light blue combination. U-Maine's uniforms have always been my favorite.
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I'm going to get them baked at West Side Skate and Stick, but already they feel pretty nice. They remind me a lot of the Vapor 8's, just much more forgiving. That Vapor 8 tongue was crap. I remember cutting a bit off it or something. These things make me want to skate barefoot, which I usually don't do. I'd like to see how these compare in weight to the non-Bauer high end skates today. With a different holder setup, these seem like they could be quite competitive; the "driveshaft" feels massive, pulling the center of gravity to itself noticeably in my hand.
I could go for a Supreme skate cut lower, with that suppleness built in...maybe I'll end up with one of Graf's imitative skates (G3 or 75 ultra, 9035 or something). I always look at their skates and wonder how much weight they build into those rather bulky outsoles. It seems they can't or just haven't been able to make the jump to lower profiles there, and no one else is even close to that traditional of a build in that area.
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Old's cool:
New Old Stock Mission Amp Flyweight S, vintage 2000.
I missed the cut of Mission's old boots with the three vertical eyelets--I rolled around in some Proto V's for years until the toe box on one boot split open. These are sweet. I love the look, the materials feel great, the tongue is incredibly plush and they're stiff down low yet very pliable up top. Can't wait to try them out. I'm just a little bummed the pitch3's on my old, unused s400's (size 11 / 46) are 288 and these notoriously bad holders are 280, but the boot fit's better in the Flyweight. Maybe I'll put CXN's on when I can.
I know Mission used to say skate size = boot size, but that only works for me if I look at the European size, where I'm usually a 45. This 45 Mission as a 10 comes nowhere near my shoe size, where I can go down to an 11 if I ignore advice about room for the toes, but then that's likely due to all of that manufacturer inconsistency.
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Yeah, it was sarcasm. I know it's not always so easy to pick up in writing, especially with so many English as a second language readers on here. It would have been nice to include the link like decoy did.
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No one at all. Certainly no one who's posted above in this thread.
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Yeah, I loved the clear coat. I just bought my first Easton shaft in years and I'm not to happy with the matte finish. So many sticks are grip now. They just feel like my roommates used them for dinner and washed them as they usually do, leaving that protective film on them.
it's probably entirely mental, but I always thought I got a little more whip out of the long hosel wood blades than the lower connection blades that followed the T flex
Maybe it's not all mental--if the combined taper zone was longer because of the long hosel, that would make sense that there was more whip. Did they compensate by lengthening the taper zone on the shaft once they went to the shorter hosel blades?
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All of those classic Eastons, loved those shafts, good finds.
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You can, but you might like the change. For the longest time I struggled to get the hang of the pitch on 705's. When I got around the extra volume in the boot for my 703 foot and got it to wrap, I wouldn't have changed a thing. Even on an 11' radius, I had quick starts and cross-overs. Going back to Tuuks felt ok, but it felt like going back to a mountain bike after riding a road bike with more aggressive geometry and "go" built into it altogether. I didn't have to retool my skating, but eventually my skating felt it had reached a level it never had before. I had good knee bend in Bauer's, on Tuuks, I was skating below the board height in 705's and I'm 6'3". Just saying, as a personal fan of that "aggressive" geometry, maybe give it some more time...again, it all comes back to what works with your body's sense of movement--how well you can predict what your equipment is doing for you.
I agree with you Chippa if I can summarize/tautolize "tailoring the skate to your skating style" as "not having to think about your skating." Sometimes there's a deeper level of that thoughtless freedom of movement after the body adjusts to a new geometry.
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I have to agree here....although about 6months back something kinda similar happened to me...I was getting cash out of the ATM, wanted to take out $100, instead of giving me 5 $20 bills it gave me 5 $50 bills.....So basically gave me $150 more than I was taking out. The machine only took $100 out of my account...and I proceeded to just keep the money. Had it been a live teller who made the mistake, or something like this jersey, something tangible, I wouldve given the money back...however since it was an atm and I wouldve had to go back out of my way to explain what happened I decided to keep the money...plus they rape u on overdraft charges...so that 150 made up for all of those excess charges Id gotten over the last 10 years....bad karma? maybe, but I didnt look back. Like I said if it had been an actual persons fault or an item I wouldve given it back...but come on the machine malfunctions and gives me more CASH???? im keepin it haha. but yeah u should prbly at least contact them and see if theyll let u keep it or pay for its return shipping.
Does anyone know how ATM's are loaded? Maybe everyone getting 20's was instead issued 50's...I can't imagine the programming being off as much as I can someone loading the machine with the wrong pack of bills in the 20-slot...I wonder what a wholesale error like that would amount to.
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Baking the mako changes the fit completely. It's impossible to judge the Mako without baking it.
Also, I forgot to ask, are you skating in socks? If so, how thick? Slightly changing that might help, because it sounds like a borderline issue.
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I'm just bummed after reading everyone else who was so happy when they got them baked, etc that mine didn't work out like that. Still easily the most comfortable skates I've ever worn, aside from being just a touch too short.
The 8D Vapors I had were painful to stand. I was actually able to play an entire game in these, so its definitely a lot better. The Vapors I thought would be okay once they broke in (because they felt great during the baking process), but they were just too painful to skate in to ever possibly break them in. These makos are SO close to being perfect. I've also never experienced such great heel lock as with these (different sized feet with different width ankles makes that hard to fit a stock skate). If they'd just break in a tiny bit they would be amazing.
There seems to be a vertical seam on the end of the toe box that my big toe rubs on. That's the worst part, not even so much the length itself.
Baking the mako changes the fit completely. It's impossible to judge the Mako without baking it.
Hang in there, it sounds like you're almost in a really comfortable ride. About that seam that's digging into your toe, have you taken the laces all the way out, yanked the tongue back and checked if perhaps you could shave it down? It sounds like it could be an injection mold seam that you could smooth out, with surgical care. I know they're your new babies, so cutting a little bit off just at the tip might be too horrifying to do, but it just might help this toe flare up from reaching that annoyingly painful zone.
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The only concern i have is the length, once again. And once again they were perfect after baking, and hell even perfect sitting down with my knees bent. But once I stand up, the forward pitch makes my foot slide forward.
It sounds like your foot is swelling from supporting your weight without flexion, which is normal, right? Just like flyguy1 says, more knee bend and your foot flexes, so it contracts a bit, length wise. It sounds like they fit you perfectly--your constant skating micromanager: lose that knee bend one bit and it whips you.
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True. I guess keeping it under the same name, VH, gives me the impression that "this time, it's different." It's all pure conjecture. I'm afraid I'm pulling things off topic though, feels like suddenly we're digging around in the rough for perspectives on branding rather than the skates.
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It's just different in my mind that MLX wasn't an existing brand, it was rather like a petri dish. This just seems like a boot maker spotting opportunity to grow. I can't imagine wanting to sell VH, speed skate and cycle boot manufacturing and all.
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Seems they're taking the exact same path as MLX did.
Wonder if they're hoping for the same situation and a competitor buys them up to compete with the Mako.
Is it though? It seems like a branch to grow off their original business, speed skate boots. That it's a branch under the VH umbrella makes it different in my mind.
Seems they're taking the exact same path as MLX did.
Wonder if they're hoping for the same situation and a competitor buys them up to compete with the Mako.
Nightmare.
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I like the looks of VH boots so far, slick logo.
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the only complaint i can see so far with these skates is that they are a little heavier than vapors/supremes. Is it the blade that's heavier? How is that blade compared to popular ones like LS2s or the new ones on the APX2s??
I haven't put them on, but from holding the skate in my hand, I know what you mean--they feel more bottom heavy than Supremes or Vapors. If you're comparing the balance of the Mako to the APX or NXG, the fusion runners might make some difference too. When I picked up the Mako the first time Graf's old slogan "Top Light" came to mind.
As has come up previously in discussion of this skate, they are not the lightest, but they're also not trying to be.
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ugghh forget it
But is there any literature on the effect of good versus bad fit? I had a terrible time finding running shoes that fit. It could be fair to say that 100 extra grams requires more energy expenditure, what about the energy expenditure of shoes that weigh the same but don't fit as well. Again in running you're not performing an activity with more than a kilogram of extra equipment on, and as Wrangler reiterates, that point is considered in SVH's original research.
I don't regret buying my Mako's. They still are the best fitting skates I've owned; an evolution of the MLX skate. This VH skate intrigues me, and I'll try it out when I can.
I'm envious of your being able to experience this evolution. I've been giddy about the speed skating influence on hockey skates since before I found out about MLX. I haven't had the chance to own either a pair of MLX's or Makos and it feels like I've missed out a bit.
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When you sit and squeeze them in your hand, no, they do not SEEM stiff. Due to the way they are made, they will not seem "stiff" like what we have seen in the past few years, however, they are plenty stiff with your foot in the skate. I would also like to note that the more recent skates have been too stiff for almost everyone, in my opinion of course.
Zach
I couldn't agree more. It seems like more and more elite skaters are skipping one eyelet (even two in the case of Jason Zucker) at the top or next to top of their skates. If skate weight is such an obsession, why is all of this mass being lugged around unnecessarily and with sub-optimal energy transfer.
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Nice find.
And here you have the MLX tie-in:
Margarine! $1200 for a custom speed boot! I was prepared for much worse sticker shock.
I don't find the Me2 ripple effect implausible, looking at minimal running shoes, and even composite sticks. I remember Busch being around for a few years and then Easton brought "one-piece" composites to the distribution level that allowed/forced the everyone-in-the-pool inflection point.
Maybe that whole segment won't develop. I could also see some sort of hybrid dominating: a Supreme/Mako synthesis.
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I tried them on Monday afternoon. Very different feel then what I am used to. Much less volume and zero negative space. Tried them on barefoot because i didn't have socks and they fit fit perfectly. With socks, which I prefer, would be a problem. I can see how many guys would love them but not for me.
How thick are your usual skating socks? I've never liked anything but the thinnest I can get. It seems like the formability of the skate should be able to accomodate added thickness--unless there's something about the fit/feeling/materials of the skate that makes you think it wouldn't suit a sock...did you bake them when you tried them on barefoot?
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MLX and Scott Van Horne have videos on how to do this on YouTube too.