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5 hours ago, BenBreeg said:What is a deviant roll? I think of Bauers as a 4-roll, never really thought about any subcategories.
i think I may get a pair of the CCMs, I really like them.
Bauer’s later 4-Rolls’ 4th roll from the top isn’t a rectangle, but a wide and short pentagon. The pinky side is sliced to better match the angles of the palm.
Some of Easton’s later 4-Rolls’ 3rd and 4th rolls were convex and concave, respectively. I’ve never worn a pair of Easton’s but I imagine this was worked out to better fit the fisty formation of the hand when holding a stick.
Both examples feature mostly straight rectangular rolls on the backhand, so they’re still 4-Rolls in my mind.
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I’m a bit of a snob, but when I hear 4-Roll (or 5), I see (mostly*) straight backhand rolls. If they’re another TPS HG2 clone like these from CCM, they’re slants, not rolls—the hybrid of hockey gloves.
*There’s room for a deviant roll or two as seen in Easton’s and Bauer’s 4-Rolls.
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6 hours ago, acura9927 said:I found new Bauer Supreme Comp skates on ebay. Never been used, sharpened, looks likes sat in the closet for 25 to 30 years? They are the ones that Paul Kariya skated with, down to the Black Tuuks.
Are these still safe to skate on if they were never subjected to use? I weigh 131 lbs so I would not stress the blade holder much. Or just use as a display ?
If it’s Supreme Comp 5000 (or similar new old stock top of the line) the boot should last quite a while. There’s just something iffy about the holder plastic at 30 years old. The worst that can happen is suddenly failure of the holder. I think it depends on how they were stored, but I’ve tried various boots that age or older the last couple of years and have had three or four Tuuk Custom or Custom Plus crack or shatter while I’ve been skating on them. It’s not really dangerous if you’ve got all your gear on. You might fall suddenly like you’ve lost an edge in the case of total sudden holder failure. You can just put a new holder on if that happens.
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2 hours ago, OldCY said:is there going to be a customizer sale? or just this clearance sale going on?
I think it's just to make way for their new stock production. Clear out the last batch of stock sticks, then launch the new stock line/up. Custom's made to order so they're not sitting on stock. Certainly not if it takes 2.5 - 3 months for delivery.
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16 minutes ago, Cavs019 said:All they need to do is bring back the XN10 and I’m sold.
Bring back the HG1 and HGT too.
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1 hour ago, Sniper9 said:Same experience with me. Mainly with the hyperlites feeling about 1/4 size longer bc of the different toecap.
I really liked the Hyperlite toe cap compared to previous Vapors. I felt grelt going half a size down compared to what I wear in older Vapors. Haven’t tried on newer Supremes, just wanted to add my two cents of love for the Hyperlite toe cap.
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5 hours ago, Sprungdownunder said:https://www.instagram.com/reel/C9sxyvoydke/?igsh=c2Ezdncwc3NvaXhh
True posted on insta the only difference between the 9x4 & 7x4 is steel, insoles & aesthetics.
Key differences not the only differences.
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On 6/20/2024 at 10:06 PM, Dmitrakov said:I've reached out to Base a handful of times since getting my poorly made stick delivered and I'm pretty sure my messages just get sent into the ether that is Base hockey now. Anyone looking to buy into Bases rebirth be warned.
It’s like a Dodo Phoenix out of the ashes and straight into the blade of a wind turbine. Sorry for your bad experience.
It’s sad because I really like the BC01 blade I have, and my old Dolomite still performs up to anything I’ve tried since. Their concept isn’t entirely wrong, but the execution sure is.
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11 hours ago, Sniper9 said:Lol. My bad. I meant p28 most open of the three. So p28>kuch>pasta
That’s where I thought you were going and then suddenly it got all Inception.
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16 hours ago, Sniper9 said:I found the kuch to be more closed than the p28. And the pasta looks more closed to the kuch which makes the p28 the least open of the three.
I’m confused. More closed = less open. How can P28 be more open than Kuch and Kuch more open than Pasta and P28 the least open of the three?
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3 hours ago, krisdrum said:You are taking this way better than I would be. I would have been screaming and kicking just from the delay. After that - the stick should have been perfect. The fact that it isn't, man, I'd be fuming. Sounds like they have A LOT to sort out. Very curious (as others are) to see how they respond to your feedback. If they have any business sense they'll remake the stick ASAP at no charge.
Absolutely, and free express shipping to boot.
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1 hour ago, Dmitrakov said:So my stick arrived Friday, and if I'm being honest I'm disappointed! I ordered a Base Nasty - silver, 65 flex, BC01, grip gloss, X-stiff blade, extend 2", naked blade. The stick does not have the "nasty" colorway, it is just an all black paint, a prototype looking stick that has "Base" in dark grey on both sides in the middle of the shaft - kind of cool kind of not. The stick was only extended about an inch and the end of the shaft was uneven, so I had to trim some off. That really didn't help the fact this "65 flex" feels more like a 90 flex! I Expected 12k carbon weave in the blade but I got a 3k carbon weave. And to boot this thing probably weighs 500 grams, very bottom heavy. As others have said, I'm not sure how they will stay in business if that's what I get for waiting over 5 months for a subpar product amongst sticks that come 330-350 grams nowadays. Do I ask for a return/remake? I may not even bother.
Sorry to hear you got a bummer stick at the end of your wait. If I were you, I would complain. It's not reasonable to wait as long as you did. That on its own. On top of that to have a product that doesn't match the spec or live up to reasonable expectations (if they weren't going to paint it the way it looks like it does on their relaunched website, they should have given a heads up) is just the sandy sprinkles on a shit cake. You're doing them a favor saying something. As you said, they won't stay in business long if they alienate their previously loyal customers that want to give them the benefit of the doubt. You shouldn't be out a decent amount of cash, or any amount for that matter, for a product that's honestly way below what it should be.
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7 hours ago, start_today said:Is True doing two lines of skates, like Vapor and Supreme, or did the Hrzdus replace the Catalyst?
Hrzdus sounds like an off brand energy drink, or a Christian rapper who primarily tours county fairs in the midwest.
It's more like Supreme and Supreme extra stiff. Catalyst is supposed to be an agility skate, but it doesn't have the traditional agility flex profile, it's just a little less stiff than their stiffer offerings.
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Round 2.
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On 4/14/2024 at 7:38 PM, Buzz_LightBeer said:Pickups from some recent travels.
Franklin Vipers pantsEaston Pro pants navy
6K Pro M/L shoulders
and a full family photo
You’ve got good taste. The Wild Berry Viper scheme is awesome, some of my favorite hockey unis ever. Your Innovative stash is incredible. 1100 is one of the sharpest looking sticks ever. Black with white and gold always wins when it comes to sticks.
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2 hours ago, pgeorgan said:Orthotics? Interesting. I was hoping it had more to do with customization of the boot.
The guy at the LHS said it’s also supposed to improve scan precision. I tried the current scanner for the first time and I found its suggestion to be at least a full size too big.
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44 minutes ago, shooter27 said:Any idea where to find those these days? I've been looking for a new pair for years. The 55flex website doesn't exist any longer.
No actually. I've looked a few times out of curiosity. The easiest solution seemed to be trying to make it with a 3D printer and the right kind of plastic or going to a cobbler to see if they could work it out.
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Just noticed Doughty's got 55-Flex lace extenders. Is this his way of dealing with the switch from (semi-)soft shell to hard shell Vapors?
He now contends with Jagr for the all-time Frankenskate.
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38 minutes ago, stick9 said:Good question. I don't mean his pro-stock pattern. I guess, it would be the original retail offering. The one that also jived with Warriors Drury. So probably right around the time Innovative became Warrior, or there abouts.
Gotcha. I thought that's what you meant, but just wanted to be sure. His pro pattern looks amazing. I know @decoy is a huge fan of it.
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19 hours ago, stick9 said:The Hall (E3) was much closer to the real Sakic, maybe even exact. Which most people believe is the P92 but it's not. The OG Sakic was a more a straight up mid curve with a slightly open face and a lie in the 5's. The rocker was flatter than the 92 as well.
I assume this was simply an evolution or an effort to combine multiple similar patterns into one. The closest thing I found to a real Sakic was the P19 Nugent-Hopkins. Very similar just not as deep. Even that pattern changed at some point.
What do you mean by “the real Sakic?”
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All skates for the last few decades have been made with thermoformable materials. You can see it happen in the how-it’s-made factory videos even with traditional skates like Graf and Bauer Classic Supremes. Whether they’re reformable under conditions available to the consumer is the question.
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11 hours ago, BenBreeg said:Very cool! I had Vapor 8s for a very brief time. Their vice-like grip on my forefoot put an end to that. I always liked the 10s design better.
Vapor 8 was where I gave up on Bauer. I saw Graf 705s in person in a shop and I was blown away by the craftsmanship. They were much more comfortable too, of course.
But these are making me reassess all I thought about Bauer. My Vapor 8s were size 10.5 and I didn't have a clue about what they should have been. These are 9.5 EE and they feel almost perfect. I had a hot spot at the end of my large metatarsal on one foot--rubbing right at the edge of the toe cap. But the shell has great stiffness and the liner/foam combo felt very similar to my Catalyst 7s. The steel feels great. Speaking of the forefoot vice, even though these are wide, they still look quite narrow.
I fully agree about the looks. I thought Vapor 8s were so cool when they came out. Vapor 10s were just a cut above. The only ones I like almost as much are the XXX and Hyperlite. A true Vapor has to have a certain balance of black and grey. These though, they almost sparkle with the metal mesh, and it's nice there's no tertiary color muddling the mix. Even the splash of red in the XXX is a drawback in my book.-
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22 hours ago, Leif said:I’m sure that’s mostly, or maybe completely, true.
The True skate was pretty much developed by one man and his dog in a shed, and they had no previous production experience. Bauer buy in tech such as CarbonCurv. The advanced hard foam in my Bauer 2S Pro shin pads is polystyrene. The soft squishy foam is bought in tech. They also seem to spend a lot of time designing somewhat dubious features such as CarbonLite blades. In addition Bauer spends a fortune on advertising and sponsoring players. And I do wonder if supplying non sponsored NHL players is genuinely profitable.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Graf had the nous to figure out how to produce carbon fibre skates, they understand production on a smallish commercial scale. But they would be expensive. And they would need a decent selling point. True has thermoformability and one piece. True outsource their stock TF7 and TF9 skates to China, I assume they do the same for stock Catalyst and Hzrdus skates too.
True has their own production facilities in China, if I’m not mistaken, so they’re offshoring it not outsourcing it.
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True Catalyst 9 X 4 Pant
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Are there any pros today with slimmed down pants? I've come across someone saying Hull took a lot of padding out of his pants. I think Kovalev did the same, or just played in slimmer model Kohos until switching over to Easton, then Warrior. Kovalchuk played many of his early years in Nike retail pants.