SolarWind

unless you're saying that beginners overuse inside edges on the forward glide I'm not sure I understand what it means as experienced skaters are always on (even slight) edges - pretty much never on the flats. even in the forward glide the pattern changes from a slight outside rolling into the inside edge (see Stamm).

agree - in addition (really just a clarification to your "don't" part): do: pass the damn puck! it's really annoying when you get a bunch of so called "danglers" who just try to skate their way through net to net every time (head down of course) just to loose the puck somewhere in the corner or get it pocked away when there was at least 1 or 2 teammates open in front of the net... really giving them the puck or supporting them when they try driving to the net is not fun! I wish they at least heard of playing Gretzky rule or something...

hence another reason for not choosing 100/75 - too deep, not enough glide I had similar experience & others commented as well that 100/75 just doesn't provide that cool endless glide that other FBV cuts do

the only real difference that can back up this distinction is the profile straight out of the box - Vapors come with 9', and Supremes with 10' because of that OUT OF THE BOX Vapors would feel more agile, but after adjusting the profie to whatever suits YOU both skates would feel equally fast/agile

Surprised you say this... Did you try literally wrapping the boot around your heel right after baking (compressing it to comform to your foot)? When you get it from the oven the boot is so soft especially in the heel you can easily mold it into anything with just your hands & enough pressure (thanks for the tip TBL BTW ;)) that's what I did personally & was able to get an awesome heel lock - was done 5 months ago - no problems ever since (as soon as the boot cools down it holds the shape very well)

there's been quite enough said on stiffness of One95 (just read JR's review for instance) - while they certainly feel stiff if you just try flexing them with your hands they definitely don't feel nearly as stiff as XXXX while skating! to explain further: XXXX are total bricks & to me personally felt just the same on ice - like crap basically (I'm over 200 lbs & still couldn't flex them the way I'd have liked to) One95 - whole different story - they just flex in all the right places & because of that I don't find them nearly as stiff as XXXXs - possibly just perception, but who cares - it works :)

anybody had a chance to try the new 6K shoulders? They look pretty nice - perforated, and slim enough http://www.greatskate.com/product/id/8654/...ulder-Pads.aspx how heavy are they & how is the range of motion comparing with Sherwood 5030?

I thought the new collection will only become avilable as of April 10, and in stores as of April 15? Who told you that? I had sent an email to greatskate.com asking about the actual dates since the line is available on the site for pre-sale the answer was "shipping on April 15" why? Is this incorrect? If so could you please enlighten us? Thanks!

I thought the new collection will only become avilable as of April 10, and in stores as of April 15?

here we go - straight from the horse's mouth (just look at the table & compare bite angles of FBV to a regular circular hollow) http://www.flatbottomv.com/technical_data.pdf

have you had a chance to look at One95 girdle? How does it compare to One95 (on paper changes appear to be minimal)? also re shins - aren't they 20% lighter then One90s (which were already pretty light)? these are only 2 pieces on the line I'm interested in & so would appreciate your feedback (since I was going to pre-order these 2 items) Thanks!

Most people I have put into the FBV say the 100/75 has more bite than 1/2", and I would agree. The 90/75 is right around 5/8 or 11/16 in terms of bite. 100/75 is definitely a LOT more bite then 5/8 - I'd say to me it felt in between of 1/2 or 3/8 - more like 3/8 100/50 is more bite then 90/75 for sure, it's somewhere in between of 5/8 & 9/16, more like 9/16 so basically I agree with Chadd :))

yeah - I agree... 7, maybe 8 - 10 is way overkill re "lasting just as long" - what cut was it? would you say this across the board or only for 90/75 & 100/75? like I said before 9/16 used to last me over 15 hrs on ice 100/50 lasted maybe 5 - quite a bit of a difference! 100/75 seems to be holidng up better, but it's too deep so I don't like it well - would you call One95 skates performance? they seem to be holding up quite well

as far as I know the price hasn't been finalized, and even the service hasn't been made officially available to all customers $10 is way too much, and last I heard they were thinking the same way, especially considering that FBV doesn't last as long as conventional sharpening

Because one number corresponds to the flatness of the blade and the other of the bite angle. 100 would mean that there's more of a flat, therefore, the edge on the 50 will be more pronounced than the same edge with a 90 flat. Make sense? I also read the brochure & understand what both numbers represent, that's why I knew that edges on 100/50 would have sharper angle then of 90/75 BUT laws of physics still apply - given enough pressure (hence question re skate's weight) a longer (and this is what the second number represents - depth on the edge) but duller edge would still cut deeper then sharper, but shorter one? anyhow - complexities a side I'd like to know whether 100/50 would last nearly as long as 90/75 & 100/75?

my feeling exactly, but 100/75 is just way too deep coming from 5/8... what I don't understand is how 100/50 would have more bite then 90/75? sure - the angle of the edges is sharper, but they just aren't deep at all?! curious if heavier skaters (200+ lbs) would actually do better on 90/75 due to the fact that edges are deeper & given the weight would dig better?

if he was skating on 1/2 then 90/75 was definitely too shallow! I skated on 5/8, and tried 100/50 (see my post above) - felt nice, but only for a short period of time 100/50 feels pretty much exactly like 5/8 I'd imagine 90/75 would feel like 3/4 (seems to be right if you look at bite angle in the spreadsheet from flatbottomv site) but here's the kicker: I tried 100/75 - too much bite :( so by the look of things I might have to either convert back, or be stuck with 100/50 & sharpenning once a week - NOT something I was really looking into since I used to sharpen only once in blue moon :(

this might very well be the case - I have heard it before (and it was already mentioned in this thread) that the first sharpenning over the old circular hollow isn't that great... good point - I'll try 100/50 for the second time & see where it takes me...

after trying FBV for several hours I agree with what many said - really nice, but not mind blowing I went with 100/50 - the bite is about the same as 5/8 the problem that I have (which was echoed by a few people here - Chadd for instance) is that the edges definitely don't hold up as well the regular circular hollow... since the glide is quite nice I might try 100/75 - why not get the best of both worlds (glide + bite), plus maybe I wouldn't need to sharpen that often with a bit deeper hollow

my understanding is that 100/75 from the bite angle alone is closer to 3/8 - not 1/2 just check yourself @ http://www.flatbottomv.com/technical_data.pdf

fair enough - but at least was my line of though correct? I'm just not sure how 100/50 would actually offer more bite then let's say 90/75 - sure edges would a have a bit sharper angle, but they'd by 33% less deep?!

sorry to repeat a question, but since I've got not answers here it goes anyways - what about 100/50? since it's right in between of 90/75 & 100/75 in terms of bite why aren't anybody mentioning it? more importantly why is everybody suggesting to move right up to 100/75 if 90/75 doesn't provide enough bite? to me it'd only sound logical to move 1 step up (instead of 2) in bite which from 90/75 (roughly 3/4 bite) would be 100/50 (roughly 9/16 bite) am I missing something?! or does 100/50 need to be refreshed more often because it's doesn't have pronounced enough edges (meanins they aren't very deep, despite that they're angled as 9/16 cut)?

curious - did has anybody tried 100/50 & if so how was it in terms of bite?

and One95 protective line will be released on April 10th as well? I thought somehow it'd be late march no?

hopefully this wasn't in response to my question, but regardless a very insideful & meaningful comment - thank you for your valuable contribution! B)