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MissConduct posted a topic in Ice Hockey Equipmenthehe.. saw this on a goalie board.. thought I'd start one to show off me
Bauer Vapor and STX Surgeon Protective next releases?
Cosmic posted a topic in Ice Hockey EquipmentDoes anyone know when the Vapor protective, and STX Surgeon lines will update? I am in the market for a new pair of elbows, and want to see what these 2 lines have in store prior to making a selection. Presently, I am in the STX Surgeon 500s, and looking to stay in a 3 piece (with closed cell foams, quick dry liner, and compression sleeve).
recently went to peranis big hockey sale looking for skates and got some bauer 1x skates for a nice price! i was looking for bauer x900 skates because of my concern about the Injected Stability Lacing System they were not in my size. I am concerned about the Injected Stability Lacing System on the skates it seems it can crack very easily. has anyone been impressed by this system? is it durable? is their any thing i can do rather than shot blockers to make sure they system doesnt break?
Skates - Both Supreme and Nexus have been revamped for 2016. Starting with Supreme, the 1S (the TotalONE name is essentially removed from the product) features a Titanium Curv outer (similar to the aluminized outer the 1X has, however, titanium; giving it a different look. The tongue is a 52oz felt that is sewn at the edges, with a 37.5 comfort pad backing it. The Reflex tongue inserts have been reworked into the CFlex; no more annoying button to press the insert in place. The tendon guard has also been reworked - in the latest iteration of their quest of extract more range of motion, the tendon guard comes with two inserts, a silver one (soft) and a black one (hard.) To adjust the stiffness of the tendon guard, you move it forward, and the inserts have teeth on them. You align the bottom, then snap the tendon guard back. The flexibility has been rated in Newtons - flexed out to 20mm. No insert - 26 Soft - 53 Hard - 100 For reference, the MX3 was 51. SpeedPlate, LS4 and 37.5 liner round out the skate. $949 sr/$649 jr. Comes out Apr 15th. The S190 falls in at $729 with a 48 oz felt tongue, flexible (not customizable) tendon guard, Ti Curv and LS3 steel. The S180 also features Curv, however with a HydraMax liner, flexible tendon guard (same as MX3) and LS2. The Nexus line starts out with the 1N. Bauer's studies justify having a wider based skate on the market. The 1N has been hollowed out and a bit softer - even though they have LS4, the skate comes in at the same weight as the 8000 with Fusion steel. Injected facing with locking eyelets on the 4th and 5th eyelet. Form-Fit Lite split 52/40 oz tongue with Curv insert. SpeedPlate as well, coming in at $949. The N9000 also has a Curv outer, and the boot is similar in stiffness of a Supreme 190. LS3 with a HydraMax2 liner, coming in at $599. There won't be a pro Tech Mesh option at retail like the Nexus 7000. However, the 1N and the 7000 V-Cut will be custom options. SpeedPlate will be available aftermarket in April. Sticks - Nothing new on sticks from the Fall, however, a new Vapor stick line will be covered in a separate review down the road. Helmets - EPP has been eliminated in Bauer's Elite helmet lineup. The Re-Akt 75 replaces the 7500 and IMS 7.0. 6 different foam densities in the helmet, as well as Seven+ in the rear, resulting in an 18% improvement in impact management. XRD foam in the temple area and then features the comfort foam from the IMS 5.0 on top. Customizable vent options and comes with the new Profile III stainless steel cage (same shape as Profile II) $119 standard, $159 combo. Gloves - Vapor and Nexus glove lines have been redone this year. Starting out with the 1X Pro; full nylon glove with XRD for protection, 37.5 liner and a pro ivory palm with an stamped overlay. The 1X glove features XRD with a comfort foam on top of it, 37.5 liner and due to Bauer's exclusivity with AX Suede, their new Quattro Grip palm with a wear patch (very similar to their Absorb patch) The Nexus gloves still features that 4-roll volume fit. Starting with the 1N, a pro style flex cuff and 37.5 liner, Bauer's 3-pc lock thumb, and on the protection side, Seven + is embedded in the bankrolls between foam and a PE sheet on top. Pro ivory palm that has stamps on it for grip, with mesh gussets. 1N is coming in at $189. For those who were a fan of the 800 glove, the N9000 replaces that at $129. Protective - Vapor and Nexus get the update this year - starting with 1X, which is a very interesting line. Coming from the OD1N project in which they used Curv as a protective component, the 1X line features Curv in all of their pieces; sternum, bicep, shin and forearm, making it the lightest protective suite in the industry. On the shoulder pad, the caps, front, side and rear panels are all Aerolite foam, however, the sternum and biceps have a layer of Curv. Also new is Transfer Mesh, which is a breathable fabric that accents 37.5 by allowing it to evaporate faster by allowing more air flow in key areas. On the shin pad, the shin cap is Curv/Aerolite, and the calf, wing and thigh pads are all Aerolite. Transfer Mesh on them as well. The elbow cap has a molded medium density foam outer, and features Aerolite in the bicep, but the forearm is a combination of Curv, Aerolite and HD inserts. Transfer Mesh as well with a 3 strap system. Coming in at $189 for shoulder, $149 for elbow and $169 for shin. The X900 replaces APX2, just at a lower price point. $139 shoulder, $99 for elbow and $119 for shin. The 1N has been overhauled as well. In the shoulder, the cap and sternum have Seven+ in between multi-density foam and the rest of the pad is HD foam. Seven+ is designed for multiple impacts, and in key areas, has a visible window. The shin width has been changed in the cap and knee cap as well. Seven+ in the calf guard with a PE insert for additional protection. It also features the new Tune-Fit strap system; instead of having one length on the strap, it can be made longer by adjusting it, and it can anchor anywhere the user deems comfortable. The elbow pad is a 2-pc construction with Seven+ in the forearm. $159 for the shin, $109 for the elbow and $129 for the shin. On the pant side, 1X comes in with Curv and Aerolite in the spine, hip and thigh. 840D nylon outer in the thigh and hip, with a 1+ extension fit length adjustment. There is a new inner belt system that secures the pant to the body, allowing the rest of the pant to be a bit freer for increased mobility. Coming in at $209. The 1N pant is a traditional fitting pant, with Seven+ in the spine, with molded foam pieces in the hip and kidney, and 2-pc thigh pads. 840D outer with Extension fit and suspender buttons.
Bauer Vapor 1X
YukonLiving posted a topic in Ice Hockey Skates/HoldersSkate: Bauer Vapor 1X Skate Size: 9.5D Shoe Size: 11.5 Solomon Foot Type: Normal Ht/Wt: 6'0" 225lbs Play Level/Experience: Current - Men's League. Previous - Jr. A (Canada) Last Pair Of Skates: Bauer APX Date Purchased: July 2016 Fit - 9/10 Depth: Felt really good to me. When lacing up the boot, I only pull hard on the top 3 eyelets which leaves the rest of the skate much looser. The sides and eyelets layer well with the tongue and I don't feel exposed. These is no creasing whatsoever when the boot is fully laced and my foot flexed. Width: I've had to use wide skates before (with Mission and Graf specifically) but these fit right in a D width. The heel is very snug and does not slip at all, but it really opens up in the toe. Sizing: I prefer my skates to fit like a second skin with just enough room for a Kevlar sock. I like my toes to brush the toe cap when I'm standing. The sizing seemed true as compared to the last Bauer APX skates I wore. For comparison, I usually wear size 11.5 or 12 "street shoes" depending on manufacturers. Other: I tried on both the Bauer Supreme and Nexus line. The Supreme felt much more boxy to me while the Nexus seemed more restrictive somehow. I did not buy the 1X skates for their looks; I much prefer both the Supreme and Nexus styling and colour schemes. These were heat moulded in store and when finished they felt like custom made parts of my body. I also tried the skates with both the included Speed Plate and aftermarket SuperFeet. I much preferred the stock footbed - especially after they too were heat moulded to my feet. I love the aggressive forward pitch of these skates. Protection - 9/10 I was disappointed to see the old style felt tongue come back on these skates but the pro shop told me it was the most requested modification to past models. I guess I'm one of the odd ones who liked the tongue on the APX. That being said, the protective coating to the outside of the tongue on the 1X has been fantastic. So far I have not had a single hint of lace bite. This boot is VERY stiff and I've taken a few shots off the foot. I do not wear secondary boot protectors so I felt the impact but not enough to keep me from playing. Shots to the top of the foot seem to be the most sensitive but that could just be me. Weight - 10/10 These skates are incredibly light; feathers seem cumbersome compared to the 1X and sometimes I forget they are on my feet. These are the lightest skates I have ever owned and they feel that way on the ice. Durability - 9/10 As expected. I average 2 skates per week or so and press them hard to perform. They're properly aired out and dried between uses so I hope to get a few seasons out of them. The Bauer 1X ships with Lightspeed Edge and this is the first pair of skates I've had with that system. My initial impressions are good. The blades seem to stay tight in the holders but will release easy enough - especially when using the included "key". I have noticed slight scuffing on the boot but that is to be expected through normal wear and has not affected usability whatsoever. I like the new material on the inside of the boot slightly above and behind the top eyelet. It seems to be much tougher than the Clarino liner in past models which wore through from tongue abrasions. Intangibles - 9/10 I use terry cloth skate guards when the skates are in my bag so I have not noticed rusting or chipping of the steel. Speaking of the steel, it also seems to hold an edge quite well. I had my skates profiled to my usual 9F R2 and they felt like home after my first ice time. That being said, my feet hurt bad after the first full game on them but that is normal for me and now they feel amazing. I wish Bauer would ship their skates with waxed laces. That's the first thing I swapped out as soon as I got home. Conclusion - 9.5/10 For a top model skate with a price tag to match, I was expecting a lot out of these. I have not been disappointed one bit - Bauer has a fantastic product with the performance I dream of. If these are in your budget (or even if you need to bring in a little more recycling) I wouldn't hesitate to make this purchase.
http://modsquadhockey.com/forums/index.php/files/file/186-2015-bauer-hockey-catalogue/ Skates - Much has been made of the OD1N project that Bauer unveiled last year; to refresh memories who may have forgotten - it was a concept in which their product managers were challenged to think outside the box with an "unlimited" budget. The skate that resulted from the project was a super-light boot with a next-generation carbon fiber holder. The point of it was not to release that particular skate, but to slowly take concepts from it and introduce it to future projects. The 1X is the first skate to offer the OD1N technology - that is what the 1 in the 1X stands for. It's a callout to OD1N. The aluminized Curv and the rib pattern is directly from the OD1N skate. Gone also is plastic in the ankle sheet; it is now Curv. All of these components have resulted in a 50g weight reduction from APX2. Continuing with the boot, 37.5 has been added to the liner as well as a redesigned Formfit tongue - it is 52oz on top, then slims down to 40oz felt. The metatarsal guard (lace bite protector) is now Curv instead of standard plastic. The injected facing has also been tweaked on 1X. It has a bit more wrap to it - more than APX2, but not as much as Supreme. And the lace lock eyelets that is on the MX3 is now on 1X, but only on the 3rd and 4th eyelet from the top. The other story with the 1X is that it includes the Speed Plate insole. The objective with Speed Plate was trying to achieve balance - from the start, to the middle and then to the end of the stride. Bauer invested in sensor technology to investigate what happens in a skate. This was a project that was being worked on for 5 years. The first key was to identify the COP (Center Of Pressure) which is the most concentrated pressure point on the bottom of the foot while in the skate, and finding a way to reduce it. The Speed Plate features their Recovery Alloy Technology, which are polyurethane materials that are able to be heated, then molded. It requires 70º F to activate (the heat you generate while skating won't be enough to do it) and it is put in the skate oven, then molded into the skate. There is monochromatic ink on the insole which disappears once it is at optimal temp for molding - and it can be molded over and over again, and in any type of skate. The reason why it is molded in the skate is because it achieves 3 things - the bottom edge and top sole marry together, resulting in a reduction of negative space; a heel pocket and cup gets formed, and the arch is also molded as well. The Speed Plate will come stock on the 1X skate, as well as the new LS4 steel. Bauer took a look at the microstructure of skate steel, and studied the grains for uniformity and consistency. The result from those findings were a 10% harder steel from LS3 - registering between 58-60 on the Rockwell hardness scale (for reference, LS3 is 53.) It is LS3 height, with a 10' radius and an emery finish. The profile is a bit more user-friendly than LS3 as well. The 1X will price out at $899.99 and will be available in late Spring 2015. The X900 replaces the X100 from 2014, coming in at 800 grams at a size 8. LS3 steel and the FormFit 3 tongue (previously on APX2) is on this skate. $729.99 The X800 features Curv composite and LS2 steel, with the Pro TPU sole that is on the Supreme 180. $549.99. The X700 features a Tech Mesh outer as well as Bauer's new LS1 steel option, which is a grade of steel between the LS2 and the S Stainless. $399.99. Supreme and Nexus skates are unchanged, however, there is a Prodigy youth skate, which comes with a 13' radius for stability for beginning skaters, and pull and lock eyelets. Sticks - The Vapor line gets the upgrade this year, and the 1X leads the line. The blade core has been tweaked with Aero-Sense II, and while maintaining the same shaft diameter, the new addition is an aggressive taper design they have called QRT - which stands for Quick Release Technology, resulting in an ultra-low kickpoint. The 1X stick will hit retailers in mid-February 2015. The X900 stick is a fused stick, however still has Aero-Sense II blade core and QRT in the senior/int models. Full 12k carbon from shaft to blade. The X800 loses Aero-Sense II, however, still QRT and full 3k carbon from shaft to blade. Supreme and Nexus models are unchanged. Also, note the addition of the P28 Giroux pattern. It debuts on the new Vapor line. Supreme and Nexus will get it next time around. Helmets - Unchanged other than the addition of a Re-Akt 100 in youth. Protective and Gloves - Supreme gets the makeover this year, starting with gloves. Continuing with the anatomical fit that Supreme is known for, 37.5 is added to the liner as well a new protection package - FleXorb (flexible, segmented PoronXRD) is sandwiched between mid-density foam and a PE insert on top. The Quattro+ AX Suede palm which debuted on the APX2 is also added to the MX3 glove. A flex cuff and a 3-pc flex lock thumb round out the MX3. The 190 follows the MX3, but with the PoronXRD protection package (what was on NXG) and no 37.5 liner. Vapor and Nexus gloves unchanged. The MX3 protective starting out with shoulder pads feature FleXorb and Vent Armor in the sternum, but essentially throughout the entire pad you're seeing a ton of Vent Armor - through the chest and spine. The elbow pad features FleXorb inside the elbow donut, and once again, a ton of Vent Armor - in the cap and bicep and forearm guard. The cap does have a soft covering on it. The shin pad has molded Vent armor on the calf wing, and the interior knee is FleXorb as well. On the 190, the FleXorb becomes standard PoronXRD, just like the NXG line that preceded it. There is a new MX3 girdle as well, and the lines are still being blurred - the MX3 looks more like an actual pant, especially once it's paired with the shell, which goes as far as to have a molded belt. Continuing with the PoronXRD which was in the spine pad of the NXG, the MX3 now has more protection - with the addition of Vent Armor. The kidney padding has a bit more flare than on the NXG - it goes full up to the edge; whereas on the NXG it would stop at the kidney and then have a smaller piece of foam to round off the top. Vapor and Nexus lines are unchanged.