London 07-07-2005

[Megamandan 0]

Condolences to all who have been affected by this horrible act. Maybe it will open up other countries eyes about the War on Terror.

[ponty 0]

One of the things I HATE is when other people label idea as being liberal or conservative. They are just that ideas that are different and that should all be listened to.

The press, depending on the TV station, will have a slant to either side. In short I find most of the press to be useless.

Only an assumption on my part but many people do know where Osama is. For him to hide out as long as he has without discovery means he has plenty of help. Money is not an influence to these people as this motivator has not worked. This proves they have a very different value system then us.

In the end we all want the same thing. Our approaches may be different but we all must be open to all ideas. Sticking our heads in the sand and going about things with the same approach, which is NOT working, is dangerous for all.

[kosydar 0]

This is sick. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4662809.stm#sad

[pantherfan 0]

thats just wrong i don't see how people can do that kind of thing and take advantage of the disadvantaged

[Lester8 11]

The investigation into the London blasts has not proven the attackers were Iraqi or Al-Queda. I don't know how anybody can justify blaming them right away. That website from a group nobody has ever heard from before popped up on all the news channels a little to fast for me to believe. The site doesn't even claim the attacks, they just say they approve, whoever they are. For all we know, the attackers could be British or American. Keep in mind, only like 5% of the troops in Iraq are British and they had set plans to leave before Thursday. Judging by all the insurgents, the troops are not welcome. The London attack would bring more troops to Iraq, and who wants that? Probably the guy who sent 95% of the troops. Before we demand heads on sticks, let's demand a full investigation and sufficient justification.

[Knotfan1 0]

I dont like hereing Bush fueled it and that allied countrys were punished for there involment in the war against terrorism. If we did nothing about 9/11 what do you think would happen we would have been made a easy target. Atleast a couple countrys have balls to try and deal with it. Saying we went to Iraq for no reason Saddam was a terrorist he gave harsh punishment to his people and killed them. Why not go and do a way with a pest show terrorist we aint going to take shit from any one. Mabey Bush was trying to say is we will go after any terrorist no matter how powerful they are. In WW2 Germany did not attack us but the japan did it was a chain Japan was involved with Germany. Kinda like Saddam was involved with AL-queda. The reason Americans may be distursting about Muslim,Islamic people is WW2 we helped Russia wout and what happens down the road the cold war. We americans are very distrusting people in are history we have been screwed over big time. I have nothing against any one except terrorist but if you have some one living by that could be a threat your not going to trust them its human nature. I guess im pro Bush but god when was the last time we have had a president with fucking balls and keeps his word.

[delpiero27 0]

IMO troops are not welcome in iraq because as always happen after a dictator every group try to rule on the others. It's a common situation. In Europe after WW2 we have experienced that. More, for a reason that i completely do not understand, they hate America. They consider that country the land of sin, and they think that they will rule the world. But Iraq mission is not a war to conquer iraq, but to give freedom to oppressed people, and stop feeding terrorism. Moreover, what really makes us different from them is that we are used to have freedom. they don't. and it takes time to let people keep in mind that.

I don't have any justification for any terrorist attack. Don't matter if it comes under muslims or any other. In Italy we had a 20yrs period of comunist terrorists in the past. And despite of many arrested people, still we are fighting with them. Spain has ETA, and Ireland has IRA. They are based on different ideas, but the results are the same. There's nothing right in their way of acting. Never. But, IRA never put bombs in USA or other Europe conuntries, and same did ETA with Spain. Al-Quaeda is bombing all over the world. Can you call it a fight with every other non-muslim people? I think yes. And that's the main reason why we had to fight with them all over the world. Call it iraq and afganistan now, but in future they will not be the only places. The distortion that came up is that we are not fighting against muslims in general. But only against terrorists that say they are fignthing "as" muslims. They are criminals beyond being a muslim. If we really comprehend this maybe we can see what's happening all-over the world with different eyes.

They made us scared for taking an airplane, a bus, a subway. They made us thinking that we are not safe anywere. What's the reason for this? And what will be the future if we will not fight them?

[Project824 0]

I guess im pro Bush but god when was the last time we have had a president with fucking balls and keeps his word.

Osama bin Laden has been uncaptured for approximately 1395 days.

"The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. It is our number one priority and we will not rest until we find him." President Bush, 9/13/01

"I want justice...There's an old poster out West, as I recall, that said, 'Wanted: Dead or Alive,'" President Bush, 9/17/01

'I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority." President Bush, 3/13/02

"I am truly not that concerned about him." President Bush, responding to a question about bin Laden's whereabouts, 3/13/02

"Because he's hidingTquot; Bush, explaining why Osama bin Laden has yet to be captured. (Washington Post interview, Jan. 16, 2005)

Balls, maybe, but some of the people with the biggest balls end up falling the hardest. Keeps his word? Sort of, I guess. Confused? It would sound so.

[Kovy_Ribs_Fedo 3]

I guess im pro Bush but god when was the last time we have had a president with fucking balls and keeps his word.

Osama bin Laden has been uncaptured for approximately 1395 days.

"The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. It is our number one priority and we will not rest until we find him." President Bush, 9/13/01

"I want justice...There's an old poster out West, as I recall, that said, 'Wanted: Dead or Alive,'" President Bush, 9/17/01

'I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority." President Bush, 3/13/02

"I am truly not that concerned about him." President Bush, responding to a question about bin Laden's whereabouts, 3/13/02

"Because he's hidingTquot; Bush, explaining why Osama bin Laden has yet to be captured. (Washington Post interview, Jan. 16, 2005)

Balls, maybe, but some of the people with the biggest balls end up falling the hardest. Keeps his word? Sort of, I guess. Confused? It would sound so.

What can you add more... B)

[Fonya 0]

I guess im pro Bush but god when was the last time we have had a president with fucking balls and keeps his word.

Osama bin Laden has been uncaptured for approximately 1395 days.

"The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. It is our number one priority and we will not rest until we find him." President Bush, 9/13/01

"I want justice...There's an old poster out West, as I recall, that said, 'Wanted: Dead or Alive,'" President Bush, 9/17/01

'I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority." President Bush, 3/13/02

"I am truly not that concerned about him." President Bush, responding to a question about bin Laden's whereabouts, 3/13/02

"Because he's hidingTquot; Bush, explaining why Osama bin Laden has yet to be captured. (Washington Post interview, Jan. 16, 2005)

Balls, maybe, but some of the people with the biggest balls end up falling the hardest. Keeps his word? Sort of, I guess. Confused? It would sound so.

His statements always seem to contradict himself. Just like those quotes you posted.

Up here in Canada we just sorta watch what happens with Bush and the Middle East.

[kosydar 0]

I guess im pro Bush but god when was the last time we have had a president with fucking balls and keeps his word.

Osama bin Laden has been uncaptured for approximately 1395 days.

"The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. It is our number one priority and we will not rest until we find him." President Bush, 9/13/01

"I want justice...There's an old poster out West, as I recall, that said, 'Wanted: Dead or Alive,'" President Bush, 9/17/01

'I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority." President Bush, 3/13/02

"I am truly not that concerned about him." President Bush, responding to a question about bin Laden's whereabouts, 3/13/02

"Because he's hidingTquot; Bush, explaining why Osama bin Laden has yet to be captured. (Washington Post interview, Jan. 16, 2005)

Balls, maybe, but some of the people with the biggest balls end up falling the hardest. Keeps his word? Sort of, I guess. Confused? It would sound so.

Where'd you get your info? Only one quote was cited. I'm not defending Bush, because words obviously are not his friend, but he is misquoted quite often by the media.

[ponty 0]

I have seen all of the quotes above from W and know they are valid.

Get the terrorist out of Iraq Theo? I will leave that one alone ;)

I do really hope that Bush is right and his plans work out. His legacy will be decided in a little over 3 years. That we all agree on.

[ponty 0]

I have seen all of the quotes above from W and know they are valid. 

Get the terrorist out of Iraq Theo?  I will leave that one alone  ;)

I do really hope that Bush is right and his plans work out.  His legacy will be decided in a little over 3 years.  That we all agree on.

duelfer report

Iraq was a long term threat and this report proves it. Take a look when you have the time.

Having a democratic nation smack in the middle of the middle east is a much better option then a hybrid of N Korea, no? Eh, its not even worth the arguing on a hockey forum./

Its been a long time since a debate with you bud. You know I enjoy them! :)

What makes you think they want our way of life? They havent since the start of time.

I will give W his final 3 plus years before I pass full judgement. I just hope we are all around at that point in time.

[Lester8 11]

Kinda like Saddam was involved with AL-queda.

That was never proven, just like Saddam's possession of WMDs and Al-queda's involvement in 9/11 or the London bombings. I have still not seen any justification for the global war on terror.

I understand you want to be safe. I want the same. There are people out there who want to blow themselves up to kill others. There are also people who lie to mobilize military forces to dump federal revenues into defense contracts. There are many different underhanded tricks that people use to get what they desperately want. Presidents and Prime Ministers are people too. You gotta consider the angles.

[gopens67 0]

Considering Saddam Hussein was at war with Iran for years, an islamic fundamentalist country, and that generally he hates islamic fundamentalists...Wouldn't it be tough to see Al Qeada and Saddam working together?

[Project824 0]

I'm not defending Bush, because words obviously are not his friend, but he is misquoted quite often by the media.

That is not such a good thing for a very well paid, most watched and supposedly most powerful man in the world. Like him or not, you would expect more out of the leader of the free world.

[ponty 0]

I'm not defending Bush, because words obviously are not his friend, but he is misquoted quite often by the media.

That is not such a good thing for a very well paid, most watched and supposedly most powerful man in the world. Like him or not, you would expect more out of the leader of the free world.

That’s my number one issue with the man. He struggles in communicating with others in many, many facets. I am still trying to figure out what the hell a "pininshula" is?

[Miike 1]

The question that will never have one answer, Why do people do this stuff? For anyone of you who are in London my thoughts and prayers go out to you!

The other day when i was playing Tiger Woods '05 online one of the people i play with reguarly is a nurse in London and she said it was the worst thing she ever seen come through her hospital.

What has this world come to?

[kosydar 0]

I'm not defending Bush, because words obviously are not his friend, but he is misquoted quite often by the media.

That is not such a good thing for a very well paid, most watched and supposedly most powerful man in the world. Like him or not, you would expect more out of the leader of the free world.

And you don't think that the media spins what he says? No, I'm not talking about the liberal media, I'm talking about both sides.

[Chadd 916]

I'm not defending Bush, because words obviously are not his friend, but he is misquoted quite often by the media.

That is not such a good thing for a very well paid, most watched and supposedly most powerful man in the world. Like him or not, you would expect more out of the leader of the free world.

That’s my number one issue with the man. He struggles in communicating with others in many, many facets. I am still trying to figure out what the hell a "pininshula" is?

And I want to know when it was changed to "nuke-you-lar" weapons.

[jrhky36 1]

one thing to consider: bin ladin will be view as a mytar to all of his followers. AND someone will rise up and become the new leader of al-quida. all members of al-quida are not mulism, remember the american who was part of al-quida?

yes media is slanted to their angle...al-jezera(sp) the mulsim tv network. they rearly show anything postive about americans.

saddam used nerve agents on his own people during his war wiht iran.

there is a democratic government in the middle east. remember isreal? our allie?

[kosydar 0]

all members of al-quida are not mulism, remember the american who was part of al-quida?

Muslim is not a race, its a religion.

[AtlantaThrashers01 0]

yes media is slanted to their angle...al-jezera(sp) the mulsim tv network. they rearly show anything postive about americans.

yes they do "slant" their angle so that they make americans looks bad.....but thats what they do in the US also. When does CNN show a american killing a innocent human in iran or where ever..they show the their enemies killing. Its just the opposite in iran and what the al-jezera network does.

none the less my graditude goes out to all in london and ppl that died

[jrhky36 1]

alantathrasher01,

you made a good point about cnn.

[AtlantaThrashers01 0]

yea i learnt it in school in language arts when we watched a afganistan TV program.