kingjames23rulz 0 Report post Posted July 17, 2005 is the lie on the blade going to make a big difference??? will it make me better or worse??? opinions needed...thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ELIASISDGOD 0 Report post Posted July 17, 2005 its all personal perferance and what ur good at ie.. slap shot wrist shot snap shot passing dekeing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sherwood21 0 Report post Posted July 17, 2005 In my eyes, lie is the most important thing on your stick. Cutting/Lengthening your stick affects lie. If you look at your tape after a game, see if it is wearing more at the toe, more at the blade, or even all the way. If it is one of the first two, you need a different lie, if it is even then you are good to go. Without the proper lie then you won't be able to do many things to the best of your ability. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gongshow11 1 Report post Posted July 17, 2005 lie is the seocnd most important thing to curve. without proper lie, u wont be able to handle a puck Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chadd 916 Report post Posted July 17, 2005 Lie is the most important aspect of a stick to me, lack of a huge rocker helps as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vapor 0 Report post Posted July 17, 2005 A curve is MUCH easier to adjust to than a different lie. The Lie is the angle where the blade meets the shaft. So if you use to high of a lie, the toe of your blade will be off the ice, meaning your stick handeling and shooting must be adjusted. Best case senario is having your whole blade on the ice at all times, this is achived by using the correct lie with the currect height of the stick. Test it out in your house, at which height is the blade flat on the ice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dangles 0 Report post Posted July 17, 2005 So if the tape at the heel wears out faster, what should I change my lie too? I'm using a TPS Nash right now if it matters. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kosydar 0 Report post Posted July 17, 2005 I guess I've always underestimated how important the lie is for me. I can use anything between a 5-6 with no problems at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edge 0 Report post Posted July 17, 2005 i use forsberg and lindros curves...I believe the Lindros is specified as a 6 lie, but has the same lie as Forsberg's "5" lie. I don't quite understand that, but my tape wears out about 2-3 inches from the heel of the blade, which i like. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Megamandan 0 Report post Posted July 17, 2005 In my eyes, lie is the most important thing on your stick. Cutting/Lengthening your stick affects lie. If you look at your tape after a game, see if it is wearing more at the toe, more at the blade, or even all the way. If it is one of the first two, you need a different lie, if it is even then you are good to go. Without the proper lie then you won't be able to do many things to the best of your ability. Exactly, if you need a 7 lie and you're using a 5 not even the best player could use the stick because their lie revolves around their play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chadd 916 Report post Posted July 17, 2005 i use forsberg and lindros curves...I believe the Lindros is specified as a 6 lie, but has the same lie as Forsberg's "5" lie. I don't quite understand that, but my tape wears out about 2-3 inches from the heel of the blade, which i like. They aren't the same lie. The Lindros has much more rocker on the blade and that allows it to feel close enough for people that use other lies. So if the tape at the heel wears out faster, what should I change my lie too? I'm using a TPS Nash right now if it matters.If you like the stick at that length, you need to go to a lower lie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notorious#29 0 Report post Posted July 17, 2005 While we are on the subject of lies, I have as question as well. (Sorry, Don't mean to jack this thread)The curve I currently use the most is a Easton Modano (5 lie). But For the summer I was playing on Experimenting with different lies, and one of the first I want to try is an Easton Shanny (6 lie). It has been mentioned that if you are going to a higher lie, you should shorten the stick. My question is if I am making the switch from a 5 lie to a 6 lie, how much should I cut off my stick? Or is the all PP? Thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chadd 916 Report post Posted July 18, 2005 While we are on the subject of lies, I have as question as well. (Sorry, Don't mean to jack this thread)The curve I currently use the most is a Easton Modano (5 lie). But For the summer I was playing on Experimenting with different lies, and one of the first I want to try is an Easton Shanny (6 lie). It has been mentioned that if you are going to a higher lie, you should shorten the stick. My question is if I am making the switch from a 5 lie to a 6 lie, how much should I cut off my stick? Or is the all PP? Thanks Try the shanny and see where the tape wear is. If it's closer to the toe, cut 1/4" off the stick and take some more shots. Repeat as needed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jbone 0 Report post Posted July 18, 2005 I could care less about lie. I just pick a curve I like and If I dont like Ill just buy a diffrent curve or make it better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kovalchuk71 212 Report post Posted July 18, 2005 You cant change a lie.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
prenny207 1 Report post Posted July 18, 2005 lie is important... and in some cases there is preference, but that usually comes with the length that you like your stick.the issue that comes up, is basically what chadd mentioned. rocker on the bottom of the blade creates the issue that there is not a TRUE lie to that stick. yes, lies differ from pattern to pattern, and brand to brand, but here is the problem. say you like a modano curve, and that is what you like to use, but the lie is not correct to what you should be using... companies put a rockered bottom on that blade so that it might fit you when you are not the lie that the stick is actually available in. so what do you do in order to get the correct lie, you have to switch to a curve that you might not like. this trend was all created to manage inventory for manufacturers and to keep costs down, but has affected the way that youth players learn the game, and learn to handle/shoot the puck. learn to use a true lie stick, with the correct lie for your skating style, and with the curve you like! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edge 0 Report post Posted July 18, 2005 i use forsberg and lindros curves...I believe the Lindros is specified as a 6 lie, but has the same lie as Forsberg's "5" lie. I don't quite understand that, but my tape wears out about 2-3 inches from the heel of the blade, which i like. They aren't the same lie. The Lindros has much more rocker on the blade and that allows it to feel close enough for people that use other lies. Oh I see. When using the stick, the blade angle plays the same as the Forsberg pattern. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NuggyBuggy 0 Report post Posted July 18, 2005 learn to use a true lie stick, with the correct lie for your skating style, and with the curve you like!If I understand correctly, a "true lie" stick would be a stick that is completely flat along the bottom of the blade, from heel to toe.. While surely this would be optimal for those instances where the stick is in a particular position (i.e. when the blade lies flat on the ice), what about those situations where you CAN'T have the stick in that position - say, when the puck is a little ahead or behind the optimal position. Doesn't the rocker help resolve some of that problem ?And, are there blades out there that are "true" lies ? I jumped over to my LHS, and all the patterns I eyeballed were rockered. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chadd 916 Report post Posted July 18, 2005 i use forsberg and lindros curves...I believe the Lindros is specified as a 6 lie, but has the same lie as Forsberg's "5" lie. I don't quite understand that, but my tape wears out about 2-3 inches from the heel of the blade, which i like. They aren't the same lie. The Lindros has much more rocker on the blade and that allows it to feel close enough for people that use other lies. Oh I see. When using the stick, the blade angle plays the same as the Forsberg pattern. But the toe is off the ice more with the lindros. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jbone 0 Report post Posted July 18, 2005 You cant change a lie.... No sorry I ment Ill just buy a diff curve or make the curve better. I don't even notice lie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
prenny207 1 Report post Posted July 19, 2005 If I understand correctly, a "true lie" stick would be a stick that is completely flat along the bottom of the blade, from heel to toe.. While surely this would be optimal for those instances where the stick is in a particular position (i.e. when the blade lies flat on the ice), what about those situations where you CAN'T have the stick in that position - say, when the puck is a little ahead or behind the optimal position. Doesn't the rocker help resolve some of that problem ?And, are there blades out there that are "true" lies ? I jumped over to my LHS, and all the patterns I eyeballed were rockered. the entire bottom of the blade is not flat. there will be a slight curve up for the heel and a slight curve for the toe, however the mid section, lets say 2/3 to 3/4 of the blade will be contacting the ice, allowing maximum impact at passes and shots.there are correct and true lie blades availabe. PM me and we can discuss further. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duder84 0 Report post Posted July 26, 2005 can somebody explain what they mean exactly by "rocker" is it the rounder shaped heel vs. more squared? or the way the blade is curved? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eazy_b97 1 Report post Posted July 26, 2005 its the rounded bottom of the blade. A boat like shape is rockered, where a completely straight blade would be no rocker. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
