tattoosbyjay 30 Report post Posted July 7, 2014 (edited) id love to hear your feedback on the marsblade chassis I have been thinking of getting a pair Edited July 7, 2014 by tattoosbyjay Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PinkApe404 4 Report post Posted July 7, 2014 Guys got a question about wheel size - my chassis was made for an 76x80 - If If throw on 72 x 76 combo or even a 68 x 72 ... thoughts / ideas ? What is in your opinion the ideal wheel size? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sjs0433 15 Report post Posted July 7, 2014 Keep the size the chassis is meant for. I see no real gain in going smaller. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tattoosbyjay 30 Report post Posted July 8, 2014 I would think using smaller wheels would shorten the wheels base on the skate , that's what I plan on doing if I ever get mine converted shorter length in wheel dase I would think it would feel a bit more similar to ice ,doing an 80mm in the back and a 72mm in the front will give you a more aggressive pitch for sure that the set up I have on my mission skates Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tattoosbyjay 30 Report post Posted July 12, 2014 http://instagram.com/p/qRuUKOw1vI/?modal=true my one 90 skates I converted a few days ago , I set the chassis back towards the heel a bit to give me the same balance feel as when im on my ice skates Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sjs0433 15 Report post Posted July 12, 2014 Looks good. I do the same thing setting the chassis back a little bit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tattoosbyjay 30 Report post Posted July 12, 2014 thanks sjs0433 , the chassis being moved back a bit really makes the balance point feel the same as my ice skates. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sprungdownunder 18 Report post Posted July 13, 2014 Just done this conversion, mlx size 9 A7 sprungs.Was difficult but results are awesome, two great combinations.http://instagram.com/p/qGwPBinj5-/ 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EBondo 233 Report post Posted July 13, 2014 http://instagram.com/p/qRuUKOw1vI/?modal=true my one 90 skates I converted a few days ago , I set the chassis back towards the heel a bit to give me the same balance feel as when im on my ice skatesDidn't realize you were on this site haha, nice. I'm the other Erik from HG haha 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tattoosbyjay 30 Report post Posted July 13, 2014 hey whats up EBondo ! yeah I just joined within the past week pretty cool site 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wickedlite44 0 Report post Posted July 15, 2014 Has anyone converted Makos? I'm curious as to the performance. Thanks! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nkrajewski12 2 Report post Posted July 15, 2014 Ive got a converted pair, coming from a pair of mission t.6's i definitely notice an improvement to my game. Turning and top speed are the two areas i notice it most in. Truly i think id like a bit of stiffer boot but they are the best skates I've had to date. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wickedlite44 0 Report post Posted July 16, 2014 Ive got a converted pair, coming from a pair of mission t.6's i definitely notice an improvement to my game. Turning and top speed are the two areas i notice it most in. Truly i think id like a bit of stiffer boot but they are the best skates I've had to date.How's the protection? What chassis did you put on them? Thanks again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SirJW 207 Report post Posted July 16, 2014 Has anyone converted Makos? I'm curious as to the performance. Thanks!There are a few Mako conversion a couple of pages back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sjs0433 15 Report post Posted July 17, 2014 Found a shop online with brand new 2012 model hum'er frames for $50 so I snagged one. I have to get a few more rivets out and then my boots will be ready for the new frames when they come in. If this goes well I might order an extra frame to keep on hand for a future pair. When I tried out my alkali skates I was really happy with the way the all 80 wheel setup felt so I'm eager to have these done. If I get lucky the frame will show before the weekend and I can get them done before a game next week. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PinkApe404 4 Report post Posted July 22, 2014 Found a shop online with brand new 2012 model hum'er frames for $50 so I snagged one. I have to get a few more rivets out and then my boots will be ready for the new frames when they come in. If this goes well I might order an extra frame to keep on hand for a future pair.When I tried out my alkali skates I was really happy with the way the all 80 wheel setup felt so I'm eager to have these done. If I get lucky the frame will show before the weekend and I can get them done before a game next week.You told me you had converted a pair of X5.0s before and there was a post here about it? Mind linking me? I just got my X5.0s, still not sure if I am going to go through with the mod, but would not mind seeing some work of yours. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PinkApe404 4 Report post Posted July 22, 2014 Gents, so I did a pair of Vapor X3.0s with a Hi-Lo chassis a while back and can't say the process was all that difficult. Now that I gave these bad boys some mileage I am about ready to start my second and even third pair ( for a buddy) and have some questions for the Ice to Inline conversion gurus;1. Centering - once we get the centerline of the original runner and when we fit the new chassis over the skate, are we trying to get the wheels centered over that line?I will add some diagrams later on tonight after I pull the chassis off and try and redo the center line.. there is deff something off I can feel it. But any anchor or reference point for me to use would be greatly appreciated. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sjs0433 15 Report post Posted July 22, 2014 You'll want to have the center line of the wheels fall where the original runner lay. To me this is the most tedious part. I'm not sure if it has to be exact as I try to make it but I'm really OCD so I take a lot of extra caution to make sure it ends up being perfect. Here are a couple pics I found of the X5.0s I had done previously. It was a super light and stiff skate which I liked but my foot just can't do the Vapor boot shape.I got started on my Supreme One.8 setup that will be replacing my One80 setup. Those will be retired to outdoor/backup for now on. I'm hoping it isn't too awkward having the old pair on a hi-lo chassis and the new ones on a Hum'er frame. After trying the Alkali skates I've been sold on the straight frame. I'm really excited to give these a run. Now I'm just trying to decide what I want to do for wheels. I've been wanting to give the RinkRat splits a try so I might make the jump vs the Addiction/RPG setup I'm on now. I'm also hoping that making the channel in the boot for the second wheel isn't too much work. I know tons of guys have done it vs. using lifts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PinkApe404 4 Report post Posted July 22, 2014 You'll want to have the center line of the wheels fall where the original runner lay. To me this is the most tedious part. I'm not sure if it has to be exact as I try to make it but I'm really OCD so I take a lot of extra caution to make sure it ends up being perfect. Here are a couple pics I found of the X5.0s I had done previously. It was a super light and stiff skate which I liked but my foot just can't do the Vapor boot shape.I got started on my Supreme One.8 setup that will be replacing my One80 setup. Those will be retired to outdoor/backup for now on. I'm hoping it isn't too awkward having the old pair on a hi-lo chassis and the new ones on a Hum'er frame. After trying the Alkali skates I've been sold on the straight frame. I'm really excited to give these a run. Now I'm just trying to decide what I want to do for wheels. I've been wanting to give the RinkRat splits a try so I might make the jump vs the Addiction/RPG setup I'm on now. I'm also hoping that making the channel in the boot for the second wheel isn't too much work. I know tons of guys have done it vs. using lifts. is that the frame you found - I am thinking about getting it. Its a steal for the money. I will post up pics of the conversion and chassis centered before I permanently attach - I still need to throw over a layer of carbon fabric over the old outsoles of the 5.0 ( I got a little frustrated with the rivets and ended up yanking the bugger out to hard). No worries got some Kevlar / fiber comp on its way ..neon greenish too so should be a nice mod to the skate. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
louierev07 31 Report post Posted July 26, 2014 @sjs0433 Did you use a shim on your 5.0 conversions? It almost looks clear if there is one there... Ive used HDPE in the past (from a cutting board), but I kinda wish I could have something clear or black - since it might look a little better. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sjs0433 15 Report post Posted July 26, 2014 I did use a shim in the rear to give my heel a little lift. Felt back on my heels when I had them done. I didn't use one with my Supreme conversion on the same chassis though. I think the only reason I used it was because I mounted the chassis a little too far forward. I prefer to have the chassis mounted back a little so that I'm more over my toes. Just personal preference. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wilmoth90 1 Report post Posted July 29, 2014 A couple years ago, several pages back in this thread, I posted my first conversion, a pair of Easton S15's on a Mission Vanguard hi-lo chassis. This is my latest pair, Easton S17's on an Alkali Magnesium chassis with Labeda Addictions. I'll be breaking these in at State Wars next week. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sjs0433 15 Report post Posted July 30, 2014 (edited) Really looking forward to trying these out. Hopefully will make my game tonight to give them a go. I'm going to see how they are right out of the box with no bake. If all goes well I'll just break them in the old fashion way. I'm hoping they feel good quick given I'm already skating in essentially the same boot. I was on the edge about buying all new wheels but have been wanting to try the rinkrats so I caved and just got a full set. I've been skating on a mix of grip+ addictions and RPGs which has worked ok but I think at 74a the RPGs are really too soft for me. I'm hoping to pick up some speed with these not only from proper hardness but also moving from hi-lo to the hum'er frame. Edited July 30, 2014 by sjs0433 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sjs0433 15 Report post Posted July 31, 2014 Got my first skate in on these last night. Feel pretty good so far. It will be nice once the boot breaks in a little more. Skates felt fast. Wheels felt a little slick but I don't know if that's due to the hardness change or just new wheels that need a skate or two to break in. I definitely felt like it was easier to go fast 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PinkApe404 4 Report post Posted July 31, 2014 OK so my 5.0 conversion has been put on a serious hold - the boot needs some surgery and I have not made up my mind if I want to restore them or take the sunk cost and move on... grabbed a pair of X7.0s - thoughts / comments? I do have a question on a different note - I have been reading into / looking into carbon fiber materials .. general makeup of the sticks and skates we use. As this is the unofficial DIY thread at MSH I figured I'd post here first and see the response before petitioning the MOD GODs for a separate thread - 1) has anyone ever played around with CF tape / Twill / or Spread tow? I am seriously inclined to reinforce the old 5.0s with a layer of 12K. Secondly the material used on hockey skate boots is a thermoplastic composite which I think is a fancy name of something that is readily available. Here is an excerpt - "Bauer Hockey Inc. (Toronto, Ontario, Canada) announced on Sept. 24 an exclusive multiyear partnership with Propex Operating Co. LLC (Chattanooga, Tenn.), the producer of CURV composite technology, for its elite-level skates. CURV is a self-reinforced thermoplastic composite material made by means of a patented technology developed by Propex. Bauer uses the material in its current line of skates, including the SUPREME TOTALONE NXG, the SUPREME ONE.9 and the VAPOR APX." from http://www.compositesworld.com/news/propex-to-supply-curv-composite-technology-to-bauer-for-hockey-skates - it is actually a cool article. Here is the same on how our sticks are made http://www.compositesworld.com/articles/advanced-hockey-stick-design-delivers-optimal-performanceI must say - I am impressed with Bauer's Product development approach - not to knock on other brand's but they were not mentioned here so I can not say. I guess I am really looking for some feedback if anyone ever played around with composites as I definitely see possibly layering up my skates and or fixing a few sticks... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites