Best and worst signing

[Superman847 0]

Who do you think was the best signing so far this year and who was the worst?

[Forsberg for life 0]

Best- Chara(Boston) or Roenick(Phoenix)

Worst- Laraque(Phoenix)

[top_shelf_24 0]

Best: Arnott- Nashville

[Kovy_Ribs_Fedo 3]

Best : Samsonov, Montreal.

[Gongshow11 1]

best: shanahan NYR

worst: ribiero MTL

[Patrick67 1]

best: I'll know a year from now...

worst: Laraque (Phoenix)

[althoma1 575]

Best: CGY - Jeff Friesen. His numbers were terrible last season, but I think he'll bounce back and definitely has the skill set to do so in the new NHL. Due to the horrible season he had last year Calgary also got a fantastic deal.

Worst: TOR- Gill. I know he's a huge man, but to pay a 6th or 7th D-man 2 million is overpaying. Between McCabe, Kubina, Gill and Kaberle Toronto really over spent on D leaving very little money to attain and keep help up front. The only guy that's worth the cash is Kaberle. Kubina and McCabe are both very good D-men, but aren't worth $5 million plus.

[ecjp11 0]

Best: Arnott / Nashville - The only thing that team was missing was a 1st line centre. He's one of the best in the league.

Worst: Gill / Leafs - He can't skate, shoot or pass. Other than take stupid penalties, what does he do?

[top_shelf_24 0]

Best: CGY - Jeff Friesen. His numbers were terrible last season, but I think he'll bounce back and definitely has the skill set to do so in the new NHL. Due to the horrible season he had last year Calgary also got a fantastic deal.

Worst: TOR- Gill. I know he's a huge man, but to pay a 6th or 7th D-man 2 million is overpaying. Between McCabe, Kubina, Gill and Kaberle Toronto really over spent on D leaving very little money to attain and keep help up front. The only guy that's worth the cash is Kaberle. Kubina and McCabe are both very good D-men, but aren't worth $5 million plus.

JFJ says "The Leafs don't really need to improve on their offence anyways.."

I do agree that they are over paying Gill, but we needed less goals against us and even though as ecjp said he can't shoot or pass, but he can hit. Isn't that what we needed? Don't mean to start anything just giving my point of view.

[Hockeyman9621 0]

Best: CGY - Jeff Friesen. His numbers were terrible last season, but I think he'll bounce back and definitely has the skill set to do so in the new NHL. Due to the horrible season he had last year Calgary also got a fantastic deal.

Worst: TOR- Gill. I know he's a huge man, but to pay a 6th or 7th D-man 2 million is overpaying. Between McCabe, Kubina, Gill and Kaberle Toronto really over spent on D leaving very little money to attain and keep help up front. The only guy that's worth the cash is Kaberle. Kubina and McCabe are both very good D-men, but aren't worth $5 million plus.

The Leafs don't really need to improve on their offence anyways.

I hope that was sarcasm.....

[EBondo 233]

best: shanahan NYR

I second that.

Worst - Hal Gill

[kosydar 0]

Worst- Chara. Its not that he won't help the team (he definitely will), but I don't think he is worth that much for that long. In three or four years, unless he becomes like the best defenseman of the league, he'll pose a serious cap issue for the B's. Same goes with Elias. Its not that they aren't good players, its just those types of contracts can be very, very risky (Yashin), and I'd try to avoid them. They're high risk, relatively low reward.

Best- too early to tell.

[Adam91 0]

Best - Elias, he was the best player on the market

Worst - tie - Gill/ Ribeiro / Laraque

[Eazy_b97 1]

Best - Elias

Worst - Chara

[pantherfan 0]

You really think Charas the worst :o

[top_shelf_24 0]

Sorry Hockeyman, that better? ;)

[althoma1 575]

kosydar Posted on Jul 22 2006, 12:22 AM

  Worst- Chara. Its not that he won't help the team (he definitely will), but I don't think he is worth that much for that long. In three or four years, unless he becomes like the best defenseman of the league, he'll pose a serious cap issue for the B's. Same goes with Elias. Its not that they aren't good players, its just those types of contracts can be very, very risky (Yashin), and I'd try to avoid them. They're high risk, relatively low reward.

I agree - Chara did get too much money over too long a term. He's a great defencemen, but my biggest hope over the offseason was that my team wouldn't go out and sign players for huge amounts. In the cap world I think it's better to have a bunch of players who are very good that make 3 or 4 million or less than have a few super stars that take up almost half the cap space (or in some cases guys who actually aren't super stars, but get paid like them). I almost put Chara as the worst signing myself due to the financials, but couldn't bring myself to do it as he is a great player even if over paid.

It was easier to say Gill because he's overpaid and not a star player, but of course a $2 million/year contract doesn't weigh a team down as much as a $7.5 million dollar contract so you do have a good argument.

[Superman847 0]

i'm kinda suprised nobody has mentioned pronger yet.

[Superman847 0]

when i started this topic i figured everyone would assume i meant trades to.

[Thockey17 1]

Best-Arnott

Worst-Poti

[kkancho 6]

Best: Kaberle (Tor) / Savard (Bos) / Arnott (Nas)

Worst: Kubina/Gill/Mccabe (Tor)

[Chadd 916]

I think Toronto gets the "worst" for me with Gill and Kubina being overpaid and not getting someone to play with Mats. Moves that you don't make are just as important as the ones that you do make.

[trucks 0]

The Leafs were such a shitbox last year that they couldn't improve everything in one offseason, not enough money to go around. You work from the defence forward and I think theyve built a solid defensive base. They needed defencemen and they had to pay the market price. Sure Gill may have been overpaid but they needed a d and he was the cheapest available option to fit in as a 6th defenceman.

Hopefully this year will be an improvement from last and if the defence proves strong enough then next year they can try and work for some more firepower to go with Sundin.

[Chadd 916]

The Leafs have more defensive prospects than offensive prospects. With Kaberle, Kubina and McCabe all getting multi-year deals those prospects are going to languish in the AHL and they can't trade them for offensive talent as they're tight to the cap because of all the money they spent on defensive free agents.

[kosydar 0]

Chadd brings up a good point. However, I'll disagree with him. Horrible defense crippled the Leafs last year. Offense didn't. Mats had just over a point per game playing with whoever. Hes shown that it doesn't matter who is around him, he was just as effective last year with Antropov and Ponikarovsky as he was with Roberts and Mogilny. He also played well with Steen last year. The fact of the matter is that Mats can make almost anyone a consistant point getter. Look at Antropov. I'm not a hater of his like most are, but Mats made him play so much better. Would it have been nice to get someone who will get 30 goals? Yes. But like trucks said, our defense was so bad last year that we couldn't afford to upgrade to what was needed, and still have a lot of money left. Besides, I'd rather let the few prospects we have get a chance to play, especially under Maurice, than pay a guy like Carter $3 million and have him disappoint us. Its safe to say that at least one or two defensive prospects will be traded at some point this season. Once training camp is over and its clear who is the best of the bunch, don't be surprised to see one or even two of them shipped along with Tellqvist somewhere.

And for people who bitch about Gill- Lets take a look at what he is. He is an NHL proven, defensive defenseman. Yes, $2 mil isn't great, but given the high market price for defensemen this offseason it certainly isn't bad. What the Leafs needed was a stay at home defenseman, someone who was proven, can kill penalties, and is responsible in his own end. We don't need any more mobile, puck moving defensemen. We don't need another PP quarterback. We needed someone to clear bodies from infront of the net, and thats exactly what we got. The retarded thing about all of this is that if Gill had signed with any of the other 29 teams in the league, nobody would be saying shit (even if he had signed for more). But because he signed with Toronto, he instantly became much slower, much worse, and much more overpaid.