Sprung Hockey

[cds 0]

any break in tips for skates as old (yet new) as mine? convection baking didn't seem to do a lot. i have blood blisters on two sides of my left ankle/foot & one on my right. i've only used them 3 times. but they don't heal in time for the next use & keep getting worse :(

Man, don't let that get any worse or you will really be regretting it later. I have that problem sometimes with my 1300c's. I tape little pieces of cut-up mouse pad over the problem spots of my ankle/foot, and that really helps take the pressure off the area. You might want to try something like that, because if you just keep playing like that, it won't have a chance to heal.

[Ultimus 0]

Growing up watching MacGyver, I put duct tape on EVERY thing that needs fixed.

It really does work for just about everthing.

Last two skates I broke in I put duct tape on the SOCK, in the problem areas. An inch either way. My theory was that the duct tape is smooth and it would prevent the sock from bunching up and rubbing causing a blister. I had blisters the first time I wore those skates then tried duct tape and didn't get them the second time. My next pair of skates I just did that first and didn't have any problems what so ever.

Give it a try and let me know if it works for you.

any break in tips for skates as old (yet new) as mine? convection baking didn't seem to do a lot. i have blood blisters on two sides of my left ankle/foot & one on my right. i've only used them 3 times. but they don't heal in time for the next use & keep getting worse :(

[kovalchuk71 212]

Is there a size small chassis? What size skates does it fit on?

[wk_style 0]

I think im sold on at least trying the sprungs. I have read the entire 49 pages and have not seen many good things, so I will try them (they deserve that much).

Now here is the major question.. mount them on my mission wicked lite vibes

or the Mission Helium 10K. And what color combinations you think will look sick.

Was thinking all black for Wicked Lite. All white for Helium?

[gee2626 0]

I think im sold on at least trying the sprungs. I have read the entire 49 pages and have not seen many good things, so I will try them (they deserve that much).

Now here is the major question.. mount them on my mission wicked lite vibes

or the Mission Helium 10K. And what color combinations you think will look sick.

Was thinking all black for Wicked Lite. All white for Helium?

Wow, both those skates would be sweet! I think the all black wicked lite might look the best.

[DangleSpud 0]

Just a quick post. I mounted my preorder sprungs on a pair of easton z airs I got new for next to nothing at a rink near my work. I must say, the frame feels much more stable and durable. The larger springs/rocker arms feel much stiffer and are to my likings. They feel a little faster, I'm guessing due to less give from the springs during push off. I kept my frame white, will try to post some pics as soon as I'm back home next week. Played in them last night and aside from the new boot stiffness, I can tell these are going to be seeing a lot of floor time.

[wk_style 0]

I think im sold on at least trying the sprungs. I have read the entire 49 pages and have not seen many good things, so I will try them (they deserve that much).

Now here is the major question.. mount them on my mission wicked lite vibes

or the Mission Helium 10K. And what color combinations you think will look sick.

Was thinking all black for Wicked Lite. All white for Helium?

Wow, both those skates would be sweet! I think the all black wicked lite might look the best.

Thats what I was thinking as well. And since I dont like the VIBE chassis on the Wicked Lites right now, they are my logical choice.

[iceburg19 1]

the new sprung frames are solid.wk_style you would love these frames.believe me these are the real deal.throw out the vibe.

[SickLife 2]

bandaid's + oxy socks worked great guys, thanks.

[kovalchuk71 212]

Have you guys noticed a significant difference between the new and old sprung?

[DavisP 0]

You can feel that they are stiffer and definitely sturdier. I should note that the mounting of the new ones was done much better than the old ones. I think that they're worth the extra cash.

P.S. Keith my skates look and feel awesome. I couldn't have hoped for them to be any more perfect! Thanks again for doing them.

[Sprungster 5]

SCIENCE NEWS!!!

So while I was in China we discussed the random no-hit breaks that happen and the plastic guys said that though this new stuff is less so, the strength of the plastic is at it's peak when the material is well saturated (for nylon) with water. When the rocker arms get very dry from lack of humidity, they are not as strong because they become brittle. And can break.

And there is a sure-fire solution. If you want to be sure of having long, worry-free performance from your frames, once a month you should at least wrap a wet/damp towel around the frames overnight with towel stuffed up into the inside of the rocker arms.

This works best with the wheels out. And with them out, you can even sit both boots in a pan of water that comes well up the sides of the frames for 12 hours.

If your in the desert you probably need to do this every couple of weeks. Same with cold and dry.

I know this sounds like a pain in the ass, but I've tested it and it works great. Rocker arms that were not hydrated snapped every time while after I soaked the same ones for 24 hours I can't break them.

We're also testing a new material that's not affected by moisture. It can be any color and even electroplated. And it can be clear... at five times my present material cost. It's being used in new Russian guns.

Meanwhile, the two materials we tested were shipped a couple of times which drys the material, and the number two choice averaged above 80 mph while the alloy material that we're actually using, averaged above 90.

If anybody has any questions about the hydration thing please feel free to ask away. To save filling my PM slot, it's keith@sprung-inline.com

[OhMyGodImOnFire 0]

well, being a goalie, that just made me rethink my decision...

[iceburg19 1]

hey keith ,does the temp of the water make a difference?

[Sprungster 5]

hey keith ,does the temp of the water make a difference?

Room temp is OK. Boiling is quicker, but then you have to take the rocker arms out to get them in the pot. If you boil them for 15 minutes and then leave them in room temperature water for an hour, they're going to do fine.

I've dyed assembled frames before, boiling the hardware and springs and plastic for 15 minutes. I dyed them blue and the springs turned deep blue. Great looking and still going after almost a year with no breaks.

You could probably water them down two or three times a year and it'd do the trick. In humid areas maybe never. Just washing your frames and rockers once in a while with Shout cleaner and warm water will keep them hydrated and happy.

As players get more used to them, it gets to be nothing to take them apart to switch rocker colors and even wheel setups. These things have one of the simplest, most sophisticated suspensions in existence, but if you have a 3/8" driver, and a 1/8" punch, you can take them completely apart and put them back together in 5-6 minutes.

The sub-assembly pins that came with your frames are really helpful for keeping a pair of rocker arms with wheels hooked together so you can slide the module into the frame and put in the pin. The pin pushes the sup-pin out.

I started the drawings for our multi-tool which will include all the normal stuff, plus our nut driver and punch. The punch is the easiest way to get the pin out, and it doesn't grind up the pin head like pliers.

[trox_355 0]

I was looking through the pics I took when I had a question about my mount job a couple weeks ago and came on this one I took when screwing around with my flash. Thought you might like this:

Sprung

[Vishi05 0]

About how long do they take to receive? I ordered mine last week and haven't got them yet (I'm in So Cal).

[Hede 2]

Keith was i China last week. I ordered mine last week to and i think they will be shipped this week.

[Bane 1]

I have now used the sprungs on my He10000's for a few games. I can honestly say I am a believer, I am never going back to hi-lo. These frames are simply awesome. I have never skated better on inlines. My advice to anyone on the fence about buying them is to buy them, you will not regret it. All aspects of my skating seem to be improved, with the exception of my speed which is about the same as being on Hilo.

And thanks Keith for an extremely good and fast mounting job.

[OhMyGodImOnFire 0]

Being a goalie, how do you think pucks hitting it will affect the life of the frame?

[philcaz 0]

I think the main attraction of the frames is that they allow a higher degree of movement and allow turns to be made more sharply...as a goalie do you really see yourself needing additional mobility?

[sdcopp 1]

the dry climate thing is a concern for sure though. I live in a place with little to no humidity year round and known for being extremely dry. I really don't want the fuss of disassembling my skates every other week to soak them as a skater. For a goalie it'd be a nightmare, forget once and face a much higher probability of breaking your skates?

As I've said before, I think these can be a great product, but Sprung is still in it's infancy as a large scale company (distribution-wise) and will face challenges like this until Keith can get the magic combo of design, material and manufacturer to line up for a consistant basis. Once all these issues are resolved, Sprung should be a long term contender as long as the evolution and marketing are there. I felt the initial model I had were too soft, and have had a few people agree with that statement. I'd like to try the new model, but not at the risk of having them break, then warrantied, etc, etc.

I look forward to this issue resolved and possibly stiffer springs from the wheel manufacturers to fully customize the frame.

[iceburg19 1]

doesnt seem like a problem to me,for one, the extra rocker can be soaked and rotated with the other rockers,two it gives me a chance to keep the wheels and bearings clean for better performance.in do time things will be fine .the hardest part is done.the design.

[OhMyGodImOnFire 0]

I think the main attraction of the frames is that they allow a higher degree of movement and allow turns to be made more sharply...as a goalie do you really see yourself needing additional mobility?

hell, why not? but yeah...

[sdcopp 1]

doesnt seem like a problem to me,for one, the extra rocker can be soaked and rotated with the other rockers,two it gives me a chance to keep the wheels and bearings clean for better performance.in do time things will be fine .the hardest part is done.the design.

I completely agree, I just don't want to have to disassemble my skates every couple of weeks. As I recall, replacement parts aren't being included with the new frames at this point so it becomes the issue of possibly forgetting and breaking something, and then having to wait for extra parts to come via mail. Once the plastic formula is enhanced/fixed and a dealer network is established, it eliminates a ton of issues like that.

I also feel the springs are too soft for my liking, but if wheel manufacturers jump in, or Keith does it himself with different durometer springs it would resolve that pp issue. Ultimately all gear comes down to pp, and right now this product doesn't quite meet mine. It has the potential to allow players to completely dial in any skate setting they want, so Sprung is definitely worth keeping an eye on. As business grows, so do the options for the product.

Until I feel that Sprung has resolved the early business issues though, I'm sticking to my Vanguards. Once they do resolve the issues, I'll run the two head to head and find my personal choice of them.