Sprung Hockey

[nyrmetros 0]

So you can't put sprungs on a rbk skate anymore ???

[nummer55 10]

You surely can, he just won't put them on the skates for you. Any other dealer will/can.

[Spreedizzle 1]

So you can't put sprungs on a rbk skate anymore ???

YOU can mount them fine on RBK, Keith just doesn't want to mount them himself.

[baz5 0]

Are there any pictures of sprungs mounted on one90's?

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=a3dmye&s=3

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=v453qu&s=3

Baz5

[Dotes 0]

baz5, you ever going to show us your red dyed sprungs?! i'm dying to see that!

[baz5 0]

since im a good guy ill take a pic for you tomorow as my kit is in the car and its bed time haha

Baz5

[crispy92 14]

Would large a8's work on my size 10 Tour formula 9's. And if i decided to buy a new pair of skates can i take them off my current skates and put them on a new pair

[Downz 0]

I had my sprungs mounted with rivets, and some of them on the back of my skate came out. I know some people used tnuts and bolts. Am I just getting basic tnuts and bolts in 6/32, anything I should specifically look for? Any specific tools I would need. Any help for someone who is a complete dumbass for this type of stuff is greatly appreciated.

[kovalchuk71 212]

yeah,lets talk sprungs,keith are you using rivets in the sprung/torspo set up?

I just got a digital scale and these babes weigh 1345 gr each, as is. As ice skates they weigh 950 gr. This is less than my Vapor XVI's, which are 1405 with the same setup. *The Vapors are lighter than anything else I've mounted except for maybe some Eastons.

None are/were as light as my Synergy setup ;)

[Sprungster 5]

I had my sprungs mounted with rivets, and some of them on the back of my skate came out. I know some people used tnuts and bolts. Am I just getting basic tnuts and bolts in 6/32, anything I should specifically look for? Any specific tools I would need. Any help for someone who is a complete dumbass for this type of stuff is greatly appreciated.

6-32's are fine. Just cut the sharp prongs off. The 6-32 t-nuts are pretty small diameter, so you can use the t-nut drill bit and drill straight through the frame holes. It makes them a little larger but doesn't hurt anything. You might want to use the little washers available on the rack near the t-nuts, under the heads of the screws.

I've drilled 8-32 holes through the frame in back when a quick job was necessary. The 8-32 screw heads are wide enough to more than cover the big holes. If a frame was used before I might use washers all around. If my screws are only a touch too long and stick up inside, the little washers will take up the slack, no problem.

A note. The 8-32 washers work fine with the 6-32 screws, but the 6-32 washers have to be screwed onto 8-32 screws. Bit of a pain.

T-nuts are pretty forgiving because if you screw up and drill in the wrong place you can stretch the hole with a Dremel barrel grinder, which is about the same size as t-nut holes. Big sloppy holes are all smaller than the flat of a 6-32 t-nut. The 8-32's can cover a hole that gives you a quarter inch movement in any direction if it takes you many tries.

The directions for locating the frames are simple and reliable. Draw the lines and double check everything and have a frame with the front and rear wheels in so you can hold it up to the boot and look in a mirror to see if it looks like the front to rear is just right. Sometimes it's hard to locate the frame at the lengthwise center because it's way above your mark and the perspective gets weird. Once you find the angle, the location is easy to spot.

Special things not to do!@!!

Don't mount them with the nose wheel pointing to the outside of your toe. A little to the inside is OK and even OOKK. Outside sucks.

Don't mount them so far forward that they need an outdoor break to take up the vacant area. I've seen them like that from all factories and it's too easy to happen. On your ass.

Don't mount them so far back that there's room for a pickup bed behind your heel. You will be in front of the suspension and on your nose.

You can spray paint your machine screws black or the color of your choice. And the washers. Colors on colors.

And A8's will fit Tour 10's just fine. At one time we bought an entire size range of Tours and mounted them all as above, for test samples. Many of them are still out there with 800-1200 hours on the rink.

The Formula 9's we have are totally reinforced with fiberglass because they tend to bend around a lot (which I knew). You need a stiffer platform for the frame to do it's work.

With that said, there is a bud among us on the thread who likes the movement and light weight of the old model and has a couple of pair mounted on softer boots so the action is spread out and predictable. He uses new A6's on his stiff ice Missions. And awaits the med A8.

Same with a proIknow who keeps showing up at games with the old ones so I can't relax and watch. Especially when I know there aren't any older spare parts in the pro-shop.

[crispy92 14]

so they would be ok for my tours. Now if I buy a new pair of skates can i swap out the chassis and through the sprung on a new pair.

[Somemeat 0]

What rink rat wheels are on those 221 torspos?

[liroadrunners 0]

mb 816's

[bombit 0]

Has anyone had a problem with their wheel axles not coming off? Basically, when I try and loosen a couple of my wheel axles the axle spins and pushes out the axle nut but doesn't come out of the wheel. I then have to try and pull the axle out using pliers, which pretty much destroys them. When I finally get them off they appear to be a bit bent and the wheel doesn't really spin well on them.

I finally had to replace them using a couple axles from an old set of Red Star E-Frames I had laying around, which aren't actually long enough and barely make it into the first thread of the axle nut.

[Sprungster 5]

Has anyone had a problem with their wheel axles not coming off? Basically, when I try and loosen a couple of my wheel axles the axle spins and pushes out the axle nut but doesn't come out of the wheel. I then have to try and pull the axle out using pliers, which pretty much destroys them. When I finally get them off they appear to be a bit bent and the wheel doesn't really spin well on them.

I finally had to replace them using a couple axles from an old set of Red Star E-Frames I had laying around, which aren't actually long enough and barely make it into the first thread of the axle nut.

It sounds like the axles are getting stuck in the spacers. This can happen if the spacer is a little wide and the bearings get tightened down too far on each end, which can flare the edges on each end, tightening the spacer down on the axle. It can happen to any axle and spacer, steel or aluminum 8mm or .250".

It can also happen when fine dust gets in between the spacer and the axle and starts building up and heating up until it and any oils fry up and glue the axle and spacer together. This is common with aggro wheels and axles because they're outside in the dust all the time.

If a wheel hub has gone slightly diagonal, it will trap the axle inside because both halves of each bearing are at an angle and can easily dig into the axle. This is also fairly common.

It's easy to tell if an axle is bent. Find a smoothe flat surface like glass or something where you can roll the axle with the head off the surface. It'll roll smoothly or bounce when it turns over.

If you play outside, it doesn't hurt to clean out the moving parts regularly. If an axle is stuck to a spacer some oil down in there might help.

We replace them regardless of the reason they don't work any more. Things break in roller hockey, and aluminum axles are there because weight counts. Their durability is the same as any others out there and they don't strip out any more than the stock steel axles on any skates.

I'd welcome comments on this too, cause I've had wheels that this has happened to as long as I've been around skates. The axle goes in OK and later it just won't come out. And it isn't bent.

[Yannick20 0]

Is someone on Team Canada using Sprung?

Phil Boudreault who's playing on Team Canada and currently in Germany isn't using 'em. ^^ Anyway here are lots of guys using them, the number of sprung-skaters is increasing rapidly B)

[Sprungster 5]

We do send a lot of frames to Canada. And, here's a Canadian Cold Call. I'd like to find a good Juniors level ice player who's never been on anything but ice, period. All he has to do is have access to an indoor rink and be willing to step up to the challenge. When we find him, we'll send him a pair of Torspo/Sprungs ready to roll. He needs to roll and tell.

This last Monday morning, I called a World Famous Major Great Lakes Area Hospital's prosthetics department RE my prosthetic foot provisional patent design, using the frame and spring tech. I gave our site and MSH as references, and the head of the department got back to me in about 90 minutes with the sites up in front of him. He's an inliner, and he got it. He called again Tuesday as did their administrative liaison. Invited to show and tell by Tuesday evening.

I like people who are not technophobic. They're the ones that deal with us best in roller hockey. We are also becoming a possible good idea to a few ice boot companies where adequate at the lowest price is not the performance and quality level their customers are looking for.

Remember, roller hockey is just a tiny little baby sport. You'll notice they don't play basketball on ice any more. B)

[greg71 0]

... I just got my new Sprung A8 large chassis ...for my Easton Stealth S15 skates

Now I ask myself what kind of

- Spacer

- Axle-Set

... do I have to order???

best regards

[nickyb13 9]

i have floating spacers like the ones found in tours

[bombit 0]

... I just got my new Sprung A8 large chassis ...for my Easton Stealth S15 skates

Now I ask myself what kind of

- Spacer

- Axle-Set

... do I have to order???

best regards

I'm pretty sure axles are included, you can order extras from the Sprung website.

[Rick 0]

This is what I'm thinking about doing for next winter. The second pair of boots don't have the ice blades mounted yet but I think it would be cool to have two pairs of Easton's, one for roller and one pair for ice.

Rick Henry

[liroadrunners 0]

sick.

[cds 0]

... I just got my new Sprung A8 large chassis ...for my Easton Stealth S15 skates

Now I ask myself what kind of

- Spacer

- Axle-Set

... do I have to order???

best regards

You need a set of floating spacers like these:

http://www.inlinewarehouse.com/descpage-SFBS.html

Axles should be included with the chassis.

[JR Boucicaut 3801]

Finally got wheels - thanks to Revision -

[reaper07 0]

dude i was just thinking of putting my s400's on sprungs. how do you like those? they look awesome