All Torhs Team 0 Report post Posted July 28, 2006 EbaumsWorld EbaumsWorld put up this video and claims it to be a 911 phone call of a man in the World Trade Center's on Sept. 11'th. At the very end its horrible because he's still on the phone while it collapse's. This is horrible. I wouldnt imagine them putting anything like this on there. I wasnt even directly affected by the attack and I still think its a disgusting thing of them to put on a site. How could they do that?Could it be a fake? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pat19 0 Report post Posted July 28, 2006 for some reason that seems fake to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peter 0 Report post Posted July 28, 2006 Well if it is real then they should be ashamed of themselves because that would definatly not be cool. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
forsberg91 0 Report post Posted July 28, 2006 I dont think that it is real and i hope that it isnt real because that it absolutely terrible... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peter 0 Report post Posted July 28, 2006 Acually I think that, that might be real like as soon as they went down the phone cut out and it seemed real...but maybe not,and if it is I would be sueing ebaums if that was my husband Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
All Torhs Team 0 Report post Posted July 28, 2006 http://www.newsday.com/mynews/ny-usmoustra...37905.htmlstoryIt's completely disgusting and I hope whoever thought that up rots in hell Agreed And Ebuamsworld uses the word "chilling" in the description. That doesnt begin to describe it <_< Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CardinalHcky19 0 Report post Posted July 28, 2006 That is just absolutley horrible, I can't even begin to imagine what that must have been like if that call is truely real and what those guys were going through. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vapor 0 Report post Posted July 28, 2006 I agree it is probably in bad taste, but why should it not be documented? We have seen worse. Videos and images of people being killed, this is just an audio track. This may be in bad taste though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Allsmokenopancake 0 Report post Posted July 28, 2006 Its another snapshot of what happened on 9/11. I don't understand what people are disgusted by. I don't mean that to be flippant, but its a piece of history, and the way that the attacks have been used, and manipulated by politicians and the like since then, has taken the emotion out of the actual event. It's been shown so many times, that the magnatude of the horror is not fully appreciated any more.I think this is one way of reinforcing what a horrible day that was, and people should not be disgusted that this is being printed, or broadcast. They should be disgusted that the events on that day are being used for re-election purposes, and fundraising, and to smear politicians.Thats what I find disgusting Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
All Torhs Team 0 Report post Posted July 28, 2006 Im at a loss of words. Of course we want to remember and honor all who dedicated themselves and died on 9/11, but why broadcast someone dying on America's most dreaded day in history. (with the exception of Pearl Harbor)And then to call it just chilling? Imagine what those familys are thinking! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Allsmokenopancake 0 Report post Posted July 28, 2006 Im at a loss of words. Of course we want to remember and honor all who dedicated themselves and died on 9/11, but why broadcast someone dying on America's most dreaded day in history. (with the exception of Pearl Harbor)And then to call it just chilling? Imagine what those familys are thinking! Not everyone is honoring them, namely politicians on both sides of the fence who have no problems throwing 9/11 around as a means of justifying whatever the hell stupid crap they are shilling today.The call is chilling, the call is difficult, and its sad, all feelings which should be associated with 9/11, not "Vote for me....9/11.....vote, send money"9/11 has been used as imagery for so much other crap since that day, that it has become "9/11" and no horrible memory, or unbearable pain of loss is conjured up when someone talks about it. The media, and politicians have desensitized the US to the actual events, and this is a chilling call, but I don't think its disgusting to post it, its an account of someones life there.65 years ago, band of brothers was actual events, now its been made into a memory of those days. There is nothing wrong with understanding and trying to understand the horrors of terror and war.I am saying this as someone who has personal experience. My wifes uncle was an Ambulance paramedic on the day of the Omagh bomb in northern Ireland in 1988. It was him who came across the body of a 29 year old woman, who was 8 months pregnant with twins and had them blown from her body. He had a nervous breakdown and couldn't go back to his job, he is now a janitor at a secondary schoolThere was a documentary on the events on ITV, and he was interviewed, he was a shell of his former self, and broke down during the interview, and they couldnt continue, but they showed it unaired.No one in the family had a problem with it, its a part of life, a part of the history of that day, and it gave a lot of people an understanding of what happened at the scene.Its just a piece of history to be involved Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vapor 0 Report post Posted July 28, 2006 why broadcast someone dying on America's most dreaded day in history. (with the exception of Pearl Harbor) 9/11 is far worse. civilians vs. military Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Allsmokenopancake 0 Report post Posted July 28, 2006 why broadcast someone dying on America's most dreaded day in history. (with the exception of Pearl Harbor) 9/11 is far worse. civilians vs. military A death is a death, military v civilian I think should only be stated as an instance of expectation of death, it would be higher in the military, but an attack is an attack, and all who die are humans, are you saying that a military life is worth less than a civilian life, even though they are the people fighting wars to protect you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
All Torhs Team 0 Report post Posted July 28, 2006 Im at a loss of words. Of course we want to remember and honor all who dedicated themselves and died on 9/11, but why broadcast someone dying on America's most dreaded day in history. (with the exception of Pearl Harbor)And then to call it just chilling? Imagine what those familys are thinking! Not everyone is honoring them, namely politicians on both sides of the fence who have no problems throwing 9/11 around as a means of justifying whatever the hell stupid crap they are shilling today.The call is chilling, the call is difficult, and its sad, all feelings which should be associated with 9/11, not "Vote for me....9/11.....vote, send money"9/11 has been used as imagery for so much other crap since that day, that it has become "9/11" and no horrible memory, or unbearable pain of loss is conjured up when someone talks about it. The media, and politicians have desensitized the US to the actual events, and this is a chilling call, but I don't think its disgusting to post it, its an account of someones life there.65 years ago, band of brothers was actual events, now its been made into a memory of those days. There is nothing wrong with understanding and trying to understand the horrors of terror and war.I am saying this as someone who has personal experience. My wifes uncle was an Ambulance paramedic on the day of the Omagh bomb in northern Ireland in 1988. It was him who came across the body of a 29 year old woman, who was 8 months pregnant with twins and had them blown from her body. He had a nervous breakdown and couldn't go back to his job, he is now a janitor at a secondary schoolThere was a documentary on the events on ITV, and he was interviewed, he was a shell of his former self, and broke down during the interview, and they couldnt continue, but they showed it unaired.No one in the family had a problem with it, its a part of life, a part of the history of that day, and it gave a lot of people an understanding of what happened at the scene.Its just a piece of history to be involved You have a good point, but your wifes uncle did not die from what he was doing. How do you these famiys are dealing with that clip, knowing that their relative also made a call just like that.If Ebaumsworld wanted to show a clip of 9/11, then they should have made a educational movie. Just like you said, its a part of history and we want to know more. I dont think they should've shown what they did. It shows no respect IMO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kosydar 0 Report post Posted July 28, 2006 why broadcast someone dying on America's most dreaded day in history. (with the exception of Pearl Harbor) 9/11 is far worse. civilians vs. military A death is a death, military v civilian I think should only be stated as an instance of expectation of death, it would be higher in the military, but an attack is an attack, and all who die are humans, are you saying that a military life is worth less than a civilian life, even though they are the people fighting wars to protect you? I'm with Vapor on this one. Its hard to weigh human life, and its terrible whenever anyone dies, let alone large numbers. I'm not in the military, nor have I ever known someone who is. But in my opinion (as unfounded as it may be) is that when you sign up for the military you know in the back of your mind that there is a chance that you may be killed in an attack. People who simply worked in an office building didn't know that. People in the armed forces sacrifice their lives daily, and we should respect them for that. Part of the reason they do so is so that normal civilians don't have to face the same risks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
All Torhs Team 0 Report post Posted July 28, 2006 Ok, you guys win. I just saw a preview on tv for a movie coming out starring Nicholas Cage called World Trade Center . Looks like Im out numbered. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pantherfan 0 Report post Posted July 28, 2006 Editted after seeing the trailer it actually looks like a good film Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eazy_b97 1 Report post Posted July 28, 2006 But in my opinion (as unfounded as it may be) is that when you sign up for the military you know in the back of your mind that there is a chance that you may be killed in an attack. People who simply worked in an office building didn't know that. Everyone knows theirs a chance they will die at any moment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crutesie 0 Report post Posted July 28, 2006 Hope it's not gonna be a movie where he and some co-workers get stuck on the 100th floor and he saves them all on a whirlwind adventure, IMO it's been done to many times and an event like this needs an original plot Or maybe i'll be wrong and he'll be the fireman :P ive got a funny feeling this film wont have a happy ending. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kosydar 0 Report post Posted July 28, 2006 But in my opinion (as unfounded as it may be) is that when you sign up for the military you know in the back of your mind that there is a chance that you may be killed in an attack. People who simply worked in an office building didn't know that. Everyone knows theirs a chance they will die at any moment. From a plane flying into their office building? Fine, everyone knows that there is a chance they could die at any moment. However, that chance is much larger for those in the armed forces, and they know it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miike 1 Report post Posted July 29, 2006 If your talking about the movie Flight 93 i have to disagree. That movie was well done, and gave you a feeling of what went on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miike 1 Report post Posted July 29, 2006 Nah...I'm talking about "World trade" Or something along those lines which is coming out in a week Ahh ok, never seen previews or anything for that. Only 9/11 movie i saw was the United 93 or Flight 93 whichever one it was called. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JR Boucicaut 3802 Report post Posted July 29, 2006 http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/wtc/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kosydar 0 Report post Posted July 29, 2006 If your talking about the movie Flight 93 i have to disagree. That movie was well done, and gave you a feeling of what went on. That movie was terrible. My impression of it was that it was made in a way that wanted you to feel bad for the terrorist who was portrayed as reserved and unsure of what he was doing. The only memorable moment in that movie was when the badass rugby player hit one of the terrorists in the face with the fire extiguisher. Other than that I try to forget I wasted my time with it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DamnLocust 0 Report post Posted July 29, 2006 I agree with allsmokenopancake that something like this should be broadcast. I remember listening on the radio to what was going on just a few miles away and suddenly feeling very vulnerable. With time, the emotions that I experienced that day have been almost forgotten, but it should not be that way. This audio tape shows that the people who lost their lives that day were just like you and I. If i were a relative of Mr. Cosgrove, I would want the audio to be distributed. As I listened to the audio, those emotions that I had put aside came back, and It was almost like It was happening all over again, and yet it was even more vivid and more personal. Thankfully, I did not lose anyone close to me in the disaster, but I easily could have. The release of the 911 call reminds us all of how horrible an act it was, and that no matter what we do, the world will NEVER be the same again. This event and should never be forgotten, and it is only things such as this tape that will be able to preserve the emotion that we all went through on that day. And Vapor is right, too. 9/11 was worse than Pearl Harbor because a distinct enemy force attacked Pearl Harbor, a force that we could counterattack, that we could break down efficiently and bring lasting peace and a renewed sense of safety. The same cannot be said of the 9/11 attacks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites