I'm here Guys....Go ahead and ask

[Justin 1933 134]

your Mission questions...

I leave to Asia for a week and all hell breaks loose...What the heck?

Justin.

BTW, Do the Mods want to put Mission Hockey under my name?

[dgaronzik 1]

your Mission questions...

I leave to Asia for a week and all hell breaks loose...What the heck?

Justin.

BTW, Do the Mods want to put Mission Hockey under my name?

Glad to have you hear Justin.

Rumor on the street is you were in asia to work on the 05 lineup, any info you can give us? Also was it the roller or ice lineup?

[Chadd 916]

We can do that, or you can put it in your signature. I'll hold off on the questions for now.

[Justin 1933 134]

You can always put "Hockey Product Master" under my name? lol....

As for my trip, I completed the 2005 Roller hockey skates, gloves and pants....Too early to take about the skates...Give it a month or so...Same for the pants...

As for Ice 2005, began working on skates and pants....Something new and exciting for sure...Sorry to be cloudy, but that is the way it has to be....

Justin

[dgaronzik 1]

Understood, hopefully in a month we'll be able to find out more.

[kenneth 5]

well at least your honest and humble and not going off saying this thing will shot like rockets blah blah. so i can't wait for next month

[Justin 1933 134]

well at least your honest and humble and not going off saying this thing will shot like rockets blah blah. so i can't wait for next month

How did you know it had rocket boosters on it? Just like Kit in Knight rider..... :P

[EricG. 0]

Will there be a change to the OPS line-up?

[QandA 0]

When's Brett going to start using Mission?

[Dan_The_Man_16 0]

What's with the site saying the M-2 is tapered and standerd?

[JR Boucicaut 3805]

Guys...calm down.

He just got back from Asia...I'm sure he's really busy.

[MNdgame 0]

Will there be a change to the OPS line-up?

L2 but I think everybody knows about that.

[JR Boucicaut 3805]

L2 is not an OPS.

[rh_joel 0]

Will there be a change to the OPS line-up?

The mission site sais that they were working on an entry price-point OPS and an ultra-premium OPS. But that probably won't be until at least next year.

[Justin 1933 134]

Will there be a change to the OPS line-up?

The mission site sais that they were working on an entry price-point OPS and an ultra-premium OPS. But that probably won't be until at least next year.

Exactly...We are working on it....

As for Brett Hull, who knows...not me...

M-2 is a traditional shaft....

L-2 is a tapered low connection shaft

Justin

[joshy207 15]

As for Ice 2005, began working on skates and pants....Something new and exciting for sure...Sorry to be cloudy, but that is the way it has to be....

Are you guys changing your skate line again? (DON'T ANSWER THAT!!)

Seriously... why does every manufacturer feel they have to change their equipment/skate/stick lines EVERY FRIGGIN YEAR? As a consumer, it's great, because you can find huge closeout deals all the time, but as a retailer, it's brutal... you have to close out perfectly good merchandise after 6-12 months. I blame Nike for this thought process entering the hockey business, but every other manufacturer must share some of the blame for trying to "keep up with the Joneses"...

[Dave 1]

I blame Nike for this thought process entering the hockey business, but every other manufacturer must share some of the blame for trying to "keep up with the Joneses"...

I guess you are pretty wrong on your Nike comparison: Nike's current Quest 1 pants and gloves are in the market for the 3rd (or 4th?) year now, unchanged. If I remember correctly, the Quest line of skates was in the market for 3 years, too. The Nike 0004 helmet was the same for an eternity. I can't think of one product that Nike has changed on an annual basis (except for composite sticks/shafts maybe).

In essence, the annual changing has to be credited to someone else...

[joshy207 15]

I blame Nike for this thought process entering the hockey business, but every other manufacturer must share some of the blame for trying to "keep up with the Joneses"...

I guess you are pretty wrong on your Nike comparison: Nike's current Quest 1 pants and gloves are in the market for the 3rd (or 4th?) year now, unchanged. If I remember correctly, the Quest line of skates was in the market for 3 years, too. The Nike 0004 helmet was the same for an eternity. I can't think of one product that Nike has changed on an anual basis (except for composite sticks/shafts maybe).

In essence, the anual changing has to be credited to someone else...

The big hurry to design new equipment started after Nike bought Bauer in the mid-90s. Bauer 2000 skates were the top-of-the-line for probably 5 years, then the 3000s for 3-4 years... then Nike came in with their "change things up every 6 months" mentality that they used in their athletic shoe lines, and now hockey equipment is different from one year to the next, even if it's just a small cosmetic change.

I guess you're right with the Quest pants and gloves, as long as they haven't changed at all in the 3-4 years... maybe Nike is learning that different isn't necessarily better... not sure, I haven't really followed Nike's line too much. But if I remember correctly, their Quest skates were around for 2 years, which is now the standard shelf life for a skate model. Helmets rarely change because of the high costs and lengthy time involved with R&D and certifications.

[Chadd 916]

Nike may have started it but Easton is really pushing the concept now. Every year they claim the new products are revolutionary.

[joshy207 15]

Nike may have started it but Easton is really pushing the concept now. Every year they claim the new products are revolutionary.

Yeah, I love how "ThermaTec" or whatever, and a new color on a skate, are "revolutionary". HOWEVER, I do love their new apparel line... the hoodys are awesome!

[Chadd 916]

Therma-tec = change in the baking process and a flashy name. Can't wait for everyone to figure out they can't just slap a blade in the Stealth when it breaks.

[GekigangarIII 0]

Can tell you guys never played inline.. Nike didn't start it, Mission has been doing it since their first year. Skates, pants, gloves, heck they changed their brand name once! ;)

Of course I bought most of the stuff... ;)

[Justin 1933 134]

Guys,

You can blame the manufacturers all you want...The truth is, sales on carryover product is drastically reduced the second year around. Why? Because consumers want the next great thing. The are not excited to see a Pure-Fly or Old Supreme....They want to see the VAPOR XXX or the Mission S1000 (just examples, not actual products)....

Believe me, my job would be a cake walk if I only had to create one line every 2 years... Truth is, some new technology is contstantly being discoverd (sure there is marketing changes, i.e. thermatec).

As for close outs, you can blame everyone...Some companies have gotten better with there buys. Mission has dramatically changed our purchases to reduce close-outs. We have adjusted the way we do business, so there are no significant close outs in the market...

[Dave 1]

I just got a M-1 pant for a nice "MFRs CLOSEOUT"-price

[Kirsch 1]

Yeah. I love closeouts. I just picked up a pair of M-1 gloves for $70 :)