Major differences in One90 and One70 skates?

[tguidon 0]

So I am having a tough time deciding what skate I want to go with in the next month. I hear so much about the One90s and how good they are, but I never really hear anyone ranting about the One70s let anlone discussing them. The major difference I see is price. The One90s are around $550 I believe and the One70s I heard were like $100 cheaper? I'm not sure on that, but can someone explain to me the major differences and if it is worth it to spend the extra money on the One90s?

[JCYC5 0]

The One90 utilizes a zero negative space design, supposedly making the runner "one" with your foot... The One70 is the more traditional design.

[jcmagna 0]

can you explain "zero negative space design"? why does this matter and what does it actually do?

[JR Boucicaut 3805]

Zero negative space is just that.

No gaps between boot and foot. The concept of One90 is that it is an extension of your foot.

It is a standalone skate in the line. The Supreme 70 is more traditional.

[srv2miker 0]

What people are trying to say is that besides the "One" in their name these boots are not very similar. The One90 is constructed completely differently from the One70 (or any other skate on the market IMO). They only look alike from a cosmetic point of view.

[Chadd 916]

What people are trying to say is that besides the "One" in their name these boots are not very similar. The One90 is constructed completely differently from the One70 (or any other skate on the market IMO). They only look alike from a cosmetic point of view.

It's also not One 70. The only "One" is the 90.

[pantherfan 0]

I also remember hearing that they fit differently, I think it was said that the Supreme 70 fits closer to an 8090.

[jcmagna 0]

ok .. thanks. So negative space is really a space then. The one90 is designed to be molded where as prior models (supremes etc) the bake process is a secondary effect/aid/fine tune.

Thanks for the prompt feedback

[JR Boucicaut 3805]

Yes, "negative" in the fact that having slop in the boot is not a good thing.

[tguidon 0]

Wow this makes me reconsider everything. I always thought they were based on the same thing and that one was just better (lighter, stronger material), not completely different design. Hmm. What are the retail on the Supreme 70s?

[JR Boucicaut 3805]

$379

[jcmagna 0]

ok ...I've been a lurker here for a long time. From what I've read, there are two skates currently on the market that are designed to be molded to the foot from conception - one90 and KOR.

The 9k pump give the perception of tight fit, but there is air in a bladder pushing on the foot ... negative air under pressure?

Where does the 1500C fit in this? or G9?

George Carlin would have fun with this.

Thanks in advance,

John

[Chadd 916]

ok ...I've been a lurker here for a long time. From what I've read, there are two skates currently on the market that are designed to be molded to the foot from conception - one90 and KOR.

The 9k pump give the perception of tight fit, but there is air in a bladder pushing on the foot ... negative air under pressure?

Where does the 1500C fit in this? or G9?

George Carlin would have fun with this.

Thanks in advance,

John

1500c is more similar to a standard boot (709/XXX) than it is to a Kor or One90.

[hockechamp14 0]

how much can the One90 mold to one's foot? Is it like the KOR's where you can put in almost any foot?

[JR Boucicaut 3805]

The boot will conform to your feet - talking to guys in R/D - they taped a ball to their foot and molded it and the skate punched out. KOR is more traditional volume-wise and has more boot wrap than ONE90.

[sogaduch 0]

theres also no plastic inserts in the boot which helps give the full fit around the foot giving it that 360 degree fit to your foot.I just wish they did what they did with the toecaps making the blades run the entire length of the boot but I know this wouldnt be cost efficient but it woulda been great to see

[icefish 0]

so is there a list of zero space skates or is the one90 it.

dont missions tend to be more on the tight side with the ankles being loose?

[AnthonyJTa 0]

The 9k pump give the perception of tight fit, but there is air in a bladder pushing on the foot ... negative air under pressure?

the 9K is not along the lines of the Supreme One90 at all... the pump on the 9K is just a for a unique or customized fit through the ankle... where as the One90, well I tried them on today, and I was really, really taken by it. I plan on saving some bucks for a pair.. my suggestion, try a pair on at your LHS, and you'll really understand what these guys mean as far as "the One90 becomes one with your foot, it's an extension of your foot"... there is no clunkiness, or "boot" feel to the One90.

now if I could only post in the marketplace... haha. workin on it!

[AnthonyJTa 0]

also, in a week or 2, I've scheduled a fitting with the guys at my lhs.... I might check out the Supreme 70, so I'll keep you posted.

I actually might pickup some part time hours at the shop too, which is cool.

[Fletch 219]

The boot will conform to your feet - talking to guys in R/D - they taped a ball to their foot and molded it and the skate punched out. KOR is more traditional volume-wise and has more boot wrap than ONE90.

Was it a noticeable punch? Or just a slight one? What I mean is, did the boot conform to the exact shape of the side of the ball that was exposed? Or did it just pop out slightly where you could "kinda" notice it?

Sorry for the kind of questioning - I'm sure they mentioned it in passing but any details would be great ;)

[JR Boucicaut 3805]

According to him, it was a significant bump.

[SWP27 0]

I picked the Supreme 70 over the one90.. the boot isnt for everyone, I just thought it was much too stiff and I prefer the traditional feel of the Supreme 70. I may pick up the one90 later when the price goes down because I am enamored with the technology .. but in the meantime, (after 5 sessions on 70s), they feel very good.

[Guy Incognito 0]

JR, Chadd, or anyone else in the industry:

Are you finding a lot of break-in problems with the Supreme70? I have an arch pain in these skates that just won't go away. I've had this pain in newer skates before, but it went away after about 5 times out. With these skates, I've been on them about 20 times... no luck. I'm thinking I might sell them because if I'm (standing or skating) on the ice too long they're causing excrutiating pain. I'm thinking they may just not be right for my feet. Any help?

[JR Boucicaut 3805]

Are you tightening them too much in the forefoot?

What width did you get?

[Guy Incognito 0]

Width is D's. I tried lightnening up on the laces through the forefoot with no success. I'm taking it this is probably an isolated situation? I've talked to another guy who got them. He likes them as much as I do (but had the same problem... he seems to think it has a very long break-in timeframe) and suggested heel lifts. I tried those as well, without success still.