factory t'blades

[TCsnipes9 0]

on my 709 SEs the t'blades are screwed in, instead of rivets. are all skates that come standard with t'blades like this?

[mixtery 0]

just got 735's and they have black screws as well... not quite standard screws tho

[Buzz_LightBeer 974]

ZG's are riveted, and silicon sealed

[mojo122 541]

Don't all the Graf's now have the holders screwed on regardless of whether they're Cobra's or t-blades?

[JR Boucicaut 3805]

Yes.

RMS screws for everythign.

[Dave 1]

Those RMS screws are GREAT. I wonder why only Graf use them. Why rivet those holders? It's a ton of work and you cannot modify anything unless you have the tools for riveting.

The RMS screws allowed me to change the color of my t'blade holder from white to black and to test out different setups of heel lifts.

The only argument against screws that I could think of would be that they may (!) come loose over time. However, I got Loctite to make sure that they cannot come loose and it works.

[jay 1]

The people that make money installing frames and holders are going to hate me for saying this... I used the RMS screws to mount my Red Star inline frame on a pair of Grafs and they are holding on flawlessly. I did put some extra loctite on them before screwing them back but I havn't had one loosen at all yet and I've played around 8-9 times on them so far.

[Pats 0]

Those RMS screws are GREAT. I wonder why only Graf use them. Why rivet those holders? It's a ton of work and you cannot modify anything unless you have the tools for riveting.

The RMS screws allowed me to change the color of my t'blade holder from white to black and to test out different setups of heel lifts.

The only argument against screws that I could think of would be that they may (!) come loose over time. However, I got Loctite to make sure that they cannot come loose and it works.

I believe that Graf only uses them because they are patented by Graf from what I have heard. This may not be correct, but I think that it is.

[jay 1]

That's weird if they are patented. I've always assumed it's a fairly generic style screw that you could order from a bulk hardware supplier. Plus, I used to use the exact same type of screw on my skateboards (with a normal phillips head) for years.

[Hiub 0]

Could I see some pictures of these things? I am interested in switching to these screws.

Thanks, Fred.

[ju87 0]

Sorry to revive such an old thread, but does anyone have pictures of Cobra holders with these screw mounts?

[fatwabbit 93]

heard about those RMS screws, anyone know where to get them?

other than that, i'll have to rely on t-nuts or countersunk bolts

[swede 51]

any store that is either a Graf or t-blade retailer should be able to order them for you..

[fatwabbit 93]

damn... dun think so in Australia....

[swede 51]

damn... dun think so in Australia....

Don't you have any Graf retailer in Australia?

[Keith 0]

Those RMS screws are GREAT. I wonder why only Graf use them. Why rivet those holders? It's a ton of work and you cannot modify anything unless you have the tools for riveting.

The RMS screws allowed me to change the color of my t'blade holder from white to black and to test out different setups of heel lifts.

The only argument against screws that I could think of would be that they may (!) come loose over time. However, I got Loctite to make sure that they cannot come loose and it works.

Actually, my Kors have screws. I read they got rid of them though?

[ju87 0]

I ask because I'm considering getting 735's or the euro equivalent of the G35 with Cobra holders, the 735 TLI, and I want add some lifts by doing some home holder surgery. I don't have access to a riveting machine available in the skate shops in my country.

Can the RMS screws be found at normal hardware stores? I would probably need longer screws if I add 3mm lifts, correct?

[Zamboni 6]

Curious, what is RMS screw....is RMS a thread type designation? I tried google but with RMS being used in audio, for ships (RMS Titanic) and it seems microscopes and camera lens I didn't easily find a definition. seems to be thread type on camera lens?....is that same with fastners-or is RMS a manufacturers name for screws used in this ap?

Careful using locktite and other thread locking compounds, be sure to use weakest and that its compatable with anything it may come into contact with.

[swede 51]

Don't really know what RMS is shortening for. The RMS screw is not anything special. It's the RMS nut that is the smart thing. A nut with inside thread . Click the Link and scroll down a bit.. You will understand when you see them

[skullplant 0]

Curious, what is RMS screw....is RMS a thread type designation? I tried google but with RMS being used in audio, for ships (RMS Titanic) and it seems microscopes and camera lens I didn't easily find a definition. seems to be thread type on camera lens?....is that same with fastners-or is RMS a manufacturers name for screws used in this ap?

RMS-Rapid Mounting System

RMS is a patented blade mounting system that has been used by GRAF since 1992. The anchor nut and bolt are stainless steel which helps prevent rusting. The increased strength means fewer attachment points (from 14 with rivets to 8 with the RMS system), and no special tools are required to install or remove the screws. To help secure and seal the screw fastenings, the bolt is pre-coated with a micro-encapsulated liquid adhesive. Micro-encapsulation is a physical process which encloses curing liquid synthetic resins in small capsules. As the bolt is screwed to the anchor nut, the micro capsules burst, releasing the liquid synthetic resin, which reacts with the setting agent to create a secure bond. This adhesive is of a medium strength and allows for easy removal of the bolt.

[Zamboni 6]

Thanks guys-I have 705's I was going to convert to inline....now I'm wondering if T blade holders would be a better idea.

[Hazard14 0]

IMO tis better/easier to use screws instead of rivets, if any adjustments need to be made just screw it out instead of having to remove the rivets