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Ov on Briere

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It didn't even look like Ovy hit him that hard. From the replay angle on the link posted it looked like more of a push while he continued skating into the play. Obviously anything to the back like that is dangerous, but it could have been a lot worse. No suspension is a good thing in this case.

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I agree, I hope I don't come accross as an Ovechkin lover but Briere really shouldn't just put his back to the play like that, it was a hit from behind though so...

Just waiting for the first person the league actually takes harsh action on, it's gotta be soon with a the bad press on no respect in the league and bad hits.

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I saw it as a mix of 2 things; Ovy is stronger than most NHLers, even at low intensity, and Briere was totally relaxing getting off the rink. Not intentional, just unfortunate and stupid on Ovy

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Birere was skating to the bench. He wasn't turning his back on the play. He was out of the play.

Your not out of the play until your off the ice, and he obviously wasn't out of the play becuase he got hit...

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Birere was skating to the bench. He wasn't turning his back on the play. He was out of the play.

Your not out of the play until your off the ice, and he obviously wasn't out of the play becuase he got hit...

...from behind. Ovy had no reason whatsoever to hit him since Briere was getting a line change, and if Ovechkin had actually picked his head up and noticed one of these three...

1) Briere had his back turned; you NEVER hit a guy if you can see his numbers.

2) Briere was ~3 feet from the boards; that would be boarding.

3) Briere was skating to the bench to get a line change.

...Ovechkin would notice that it wouldn't be legal to hit Briere. Definete cheapshot.

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Birere was skating to the bench. He wasn't turning his back on the play. He was out of the play.

Your not out of the play until your off the ice, and he obviously wasn't out of the play becuase he got hit...

I've NEVER seen a guy skate backwards to the bench. :blink:

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Well, this is the first time in watching hockey since there were 12 teams in the league that I ever saw a player get hit two feet from his bench making a line change. Yeah, its a cheapshot. We all know one when we see one.

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Well, this is the first time in watching hockey since there were 12 teams in the league that I ever saw a player get hit two feet from his bench making a line change. Yeah, its a cheapshot. We all know one when we see one.

Sorry, Ovy can do no wrong. Briere should have turned around and taken the hit like a man.

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I'm not a huge Ovy fan, i respect his game but that's about it. From what I saw it looked like he saw Briere slow down, dump the puck and then as he started looking away(eyes move faster than head, so he was probably watching the puck) he gave Briere a bump. He probably wasnt thinking any more than something like "I'm going to let him know I'm here" or along those lines. When he makes his turn towards the camera he looks like he's thinking "oh fuck." I really don't think he meant any serious damage, Briere wasn't expecting a hit and Ovy is a pretty strong guy... simple as that. I don't think he had malicious intent, I think it was a mistake.

And BTW, I'm sure that most and probably all of you have seen someone dump a puck in and slow down but go in the zone. So don't act like everytime you dump a puck you go for a change and don't act like everytime you go off on a change that you always call for a replacement(another way Ovy would have known he was off on a change).

I'm looking at this as an equal "fan" of Briere and Ovechkin, so I consider myself to be as impartial as can be. Forget who it was and look at the incident; think of what is happening and at the speed that it's happening.

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Ovy underestimated his strengh... He just wanted to give a little shoulder to piss off briere but this guy is so small compared to ovechkin that the consequences of this little push were catastrophic. Thats IMO!

TBLfan, we posted almost at the same time and i think EXACTLY like you.

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briere is extremely strong, he trains like a madman. it was a dirty hit on ovechkin's part, there was no intent to injure but it was a dirty hit none the less.

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^^ great minds think alike.

^ I can agree that it was dirty, but only because of the result. You see the same thing happen almost every game, this time it just happened to result in an injury.

And I didn't say that Briere isn't strong, with his size you have to be strong to stay alive in the NHL. BUT when you're not expecting it then you're not prepared to take it... and Ovy couldn't have known that Briere was going to go down like that, or if at all. It looked like a small bump that resulted in a big hit. It sucks, but it happens... that ice is slippery ;)

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That hit wasn't even late. Wrong time wrong place.

There's plenty of other hits that happen that should be dealt with more severely than this.

Briere pretty much turned on him. It was shoulder to shoulder until the millisecond before the hit.

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Yeah, it was shoulder on shoulder. Ovechkin's to between Briere's. Was there intent to injure? Who cares, it was dirty.

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i think its funny how people defend him OV by saying "he didn't mean for it to be a dirty hit, because i've never seen him make a dirty hit before"

IMO, you dont hit someone when they are stopping in front of their bench for a line change. Especially when you end up clipping him in the back. Thats dirty, plain and simple. It will be a good game the day after christmass when they play in buffalo. I bet peters gets himself back into the lineup for that one.

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plane and simple, this kinda hit has occurred many times this season and no one has been suspended for it. If it had been some other player on the caps we wouldn't even be talking about it. Is it dangerous, YES, is it legal, NO. The NHL has set the standard about hits like this, and to suspended a guy based on sending a message is wrong. Anyone that argues that OV is not suspended because of who he is needs to realize that if he was a below average player, this hit would have never made it to the message board and would have never been a topic of discussion.

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i think it would have made the board regardless of whether ovey committed it or not... i mean briere did go head first into the bench door.

i still don't see how some people can still blame this on briere (in other forums and and youtube) it looed like a typcal, "dump it in and head off." The only reason he was turning was because the bench door was right there and he was going to use it, and i don't think i've ever seen a person enter a door backwards unless they were knowingly already engaged in interaction with someone on the ice, which wasn't the case here. I guess Briere would have to been bloodied and with a concussion for a suspension to be warranted.

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At the pace of the game, you can't tell that he's going to get off, ovey just knows to finish his hits. I would be supporting it this weather it was Ovechkin doing this or even Tucker.

So Briere is coming up the boards, and ovechkin has 20 other things on his mind besides, "Hm, is briere making a line change?"

No way Briere could have prevented getting hit there. Note that Ovechkin hit him less than a second after he dumped the puck. Hardly a late hit. Sure he deserved a boarding call and everything else with what happened, but a suspension for that? You have to be kidding.

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At the pace of the game, you can't tell that he's going to get off, ovey just knows to finish his hits. I would be supporting it this weather it was Ovechkin doing this or even Tucker.

So Briere is coming up the boards, and ovechkin has 20 other things on his mind besides, "Hm, is briere making a line change?"

No way Briere could have prevented getting hit there. Note that Ovechkin hit him less than a second after he dumped the puck. Hardly a late hit. Sure he deserved a boarding call and everything else with what happened, but a suspension for that? You have to be kidding.

The bolded says all I need to say concerning your credibility in this discussion.

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Birere was skating to the bench. He wasn't turning his back on the play. He was out of the play.

Your not out of the play until your off the ice, and he obviously wasn't out of the play becuase he got hit...

...from behind. Ovy had no reason whatsoever to hit him since Briere was getting a line change, and if Ovechkin had actually picked his head up and noticed one of these three...

1) Briere had his back turned; you NEVER hit a guy if you can see his numbers.

2) Briere was ~3 feet from the boards; that would be boarding.

3) Briere was skating to the bench to get a line change.

...Ovechkin would notice that it wouldn't be legal to hit Briere. Definete cheapshot.

Birere was skating to the bench. He wasn't turning his back on the play. He was out of the play.

Your not out of the play until your off the ice, and he obviously wasn't out of the play becuase he got hit...

I've NEVER seen a guy skate backwards to the bench. :blink:

All good points but I'm not talking about that I'm talking about the fact that he was still in the play as he was on the ice nothing more (although If he was opening the gate or attemting to climb over the boards I would think differently)

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