Changing Blade Lie

[DMBeer41 0]

Anyone know of a way to heat up a blade to change it's lie? I love the sakic curve from easton, but the lie is a bit off (I use a 5 and it's a 5.5). Might seem like a minimal amount, but it does make a difference for me.

Is there a way to really heat up the blade to change the lie, without sacrificing too much durability?

OR, does anyone know of a blade that's near identical to sakic? I've been using the Sedin from Jofa, but it's not quite the same.

Thanks,

James

[AnthonyJTa 0]

Anyone know of a way to heat up a blade to change it's lie? I love the sakic curve from easton, but the lie is a bit off (I use a 5 and it's a 5.5). Might seem like a minimal amount, but it does make a difference for me.

Is there a way to really heat up the blade to change the lie, without sacrificing too much durability?

OR, does anyone know of a blade that's near identical to sakic? I've been using the Sedin from Jofa, but it's not quite the same.

Thanks,

James

heating composite? eeh, kinda don't want to do that.... I'm not too sure there's a way to change the lie aside from shaving down the bottom of your blade. But again, on composite.. not too sure how that would compromise the durability of the blade.

[DMBeer41 0]

heating composite? eeh, kinda don't want to do that.... I'm not too sure there's a way to change the lie aside from shaving down the bottom of your blade. But again, on composite.. not too sure how that would compromise the durability of the blade.

That's what I was thinking, but didn't know if anyone had done it before with some success. I guess I'll keep up my search for something similar. the hardest part is that every blade chart I see shows different dimensions for different blades. like some have the sakic as an open face, and others have it as slightly open. Is there a chart anyone has found that is dead on accurate? I checked company websites, but most don't have charts on them. Guess i'll have to call the companies...

[AnthonyJTa 0]

did you try the Pattern Database up on the toolbar in the top right corner? Enter in all the specs of a blade you'd like... and viola, the pattern you need.

[gotdangles16 0]

couldnt you just make the stick longer or shorter than what you normally have to compinsate for the lie of the blade?

[DMBeer41 0]

did you try the Pattern Database up on the toolbar in the top right corner? Enter in all the specs of a blade you'd like... and viola, the pattern you need.

I did, but it shows some different specs for some patterns than other charts show. I really don't know which charts are right or wrong. I would assume this one is close, since it's a message board site that seems moderated, so they'd keep it up to date...but who knows.

And I don't really know how much difference stick length would make. A longer stick would lower the lie I guess? I don't think it would really change the angle at which I hold the stick much, as I already play with a fairly long stick.

[srv2miker 0]

did you try the Pattern Database up on the toolbar in the top right corner? Enter in all the specs of a blade you'd like... and viola, the pattern you need.

I did, but it shows some different specs for some patterns than other charts show. I really don't know which charts are right or wrong. I would assume this one is close, since it's a message board site that seems moderated, so they'd keep it up to date...but who knows.

And I don't really know how much difference stick length would make. A longer stick would lower the lie I guess? I don't think it would really change the angle at which I hold the stick much, as I already play with a fairly long stick.

You've got it backwards, the shorter your stick is the lower the lie. In other words, the more you lengthen your stick the more the toe comes off the ice. So if you cut your current Sakic stick, it should bring the lie down. Of course this will mess with the flex, plus you may find it uncomfortable. But, its tough when you live in the 5 lie world.

[DMBeer41 0]

did you try the Pattern Database up on the toolbar in the top right corner? Enter in all the specs of a blade you'd like... and viola, the pattern you need.

I did, but it shows some different specs for some patterns than other charts show. I really don't know which charts are right or wrong. I would assume this one is close, since it's a message board site that seems moderated, so they'd keep it up to date...but who knows.

And I don't really know how much difference stick length would make. A longer stick would lower the lie I guess? I don't think it would really change the angle at which I hold the stick much, as I already play with a fairly long stick.

You've got it backwards, the shorter your stick is the lower the lie. So if you cut your current Sakic stick, it should bring the lie down. Of course this will mess with the flex, plus you may find it uncomfortable. But, its tough when you live in the 5 lie world.

I guess I could try that. I snapped one of my sticks the other week, so I guess I can throw a sakic blade on there and see if I can play with it. I'm not worried about the flex as most of my shots are in close. I'll try that I guess and see what happens.

If anyone has input on what blade to use to try and match the sakic curve, let me know.

thanks for the help everyone.

[sniper_23 0]

did you try the Pattern Database up on the toolbar in the top right corner? Enter in all the specs of a blade you'd like... and viola, the pattern you need.

I did, but it shows some different specs for some patterns than other charts show. I really don't know which charts are right or wrong. I would assume this one is close, since it's a message board site that seems moderated, so they'd keep it up to date...but who knows.

And I don't really know how much difference stick length would make. A longer stick would lower the lie I guess? I don't think it would really change the angle at which I hold the stick much, as I already play with a fairly long stick.

You've got it backwards, the shorter your stick is the lower the lie. So if you cut your current Sakic stick, it should bring the lie down. Of course this will mess with the flex, plus you may find it uncomfortable. But, its tough when you live in the 5 lie world.

I guess I could try that. I snapped one of my sticks the other week, so I guess I can throw a sakic blade on there and see if I can play with it. I'm not worried about the flex as most of my shots are in close. I'll try that I guess and see what happens.

If anyone has input on what blade to use to try and match the sakic curve, let me know.

thanks for the help everyone.

The Draper curve from Warrior and the Naslund P92 curve from NikeBauer are very similar to the Sakic. I believe the curve is the same but the lie is slightly different when I ran them through the blade pattern chart. Good luck experimenting with your sticks.

[DamnLocust 0]

You probably don't need to take more than 2-3" off your stick to make up .5 lie. You will be stickhandling/shooting the puck from a touch closer to your body, however.

If you've got an older blade, you could always try shaving it down to match lies to a 5 and resealing it with epoxy and maybe some fiberglass. I wouldnt want to try it on a brand new composite blade, but I'd go for it on an older blade to test it out and see if it will hold up at all. honestly, I don't know how well this will work. Foam Core blades would be harder to pull this off with.

Another option would be to get custom wood blades made up, if you're willing to give up the performance of the composites.

[Andoy 5]

When I used a XXX stick which had a 6 lie coming from a 5.5 Iginla ST, I took about 1 inch off. If you must cut, cut in small increments.

[Buzz_LightBeer 975]

draper is a 5, i thought naslund was 6

[Allsmokenopancake 0]

Can I ask a piggyback question without starting a new topic.

On the Koho Jagr curve, what is the lie for that blade. I get even tape wear on my old wooden Bullett and Torpedo Koho's, from toe to heel, so figure its the right lie for me, but what is it.

Its not listed on the pattern DB

[DamnLocust 0]

I've seen it listed as a 6 in the past, but I'm not sure if that's right. One thing you could do is compare the Jagr to another blade in the LHS that you know the lie of.

[KBO25 0]

I compared a Koho Jagr composite taper i have and it is a hair lower than an Easton Yzerman. So, i would say just below 6, but not quite 5.5.

[kovalchuk71 212]

draper is a 5, i thought naslund was 6

The draper is a 5.5

[mack 44]

After checking some out at the LHS I'd say the Naslund is a Bauer 6.

[top 0]

To answer all the questions:

Draper may be listed as 5 warrior but it would be a 5.5 easton and the bauer naslund is listed 6 but in easton its 5.5 both curves almost the same to a sakci but with little differences. As for the lie i am a lie 5 user (forsberg) and to used a curves with a higher lie i just cut my sticks shorter not much but enough so the blade lies flat on the ice. And i dont think its ever been done, heating a blade and changing the lie? and if so maybe on a wood, if it changes anything but not on a composite. Ifs its a wood you might be able to grind it a bit to change it but not on a composite forsure. And as for the flex if you but maybe a half inch i really can see how a half inch will make your stick much stiffer i mean it might be a little stiffer but nothing your gonna notice drastically. ANd if you interested in prushasing a new blade you might be able to score a heathley, not exactly a sakic, pretty much an iginla with a lie 5.

[fatwabbit 93]

epoxy the edge of the blade... form a channel on both sides of the blade with some tape. once the epoxy sets, just play with it a while in the driveway or street... the epoxy should wear down to the normal lie you use...

tried that before with some sherwood blades i had in the past (still do) and it worked like a charm...

[DMBeer41 0]

To answer all the questions:

Draper may be listed as 5 warrior but it would be a 5.5 easton and the bauer naslund is listed 6 but in easton its 5.5 both curves almost the same to a sakci but with little differences. As for the lie i am a lie 5 user (forsberg) and to used a curves with a higher lie i just cut my sticks shorter not much but enough so the blade lies flat on the ice. And i dont think its ever been done, heating a blade and changing the lie? and if so maybe on a wood, if it changes anything but not on a composite. Ifs its a wood you might be able to grind it a bit to change it but not on a composite forsure. And as for the flex if you but maybe a half inch i really can see how a half inch will make your stick much stiffer i mean it might be a little stiffer but nothing your gonna notice drastically. ANd if you interested in prushasing a new blade you might be able to score a heathley, not exactly a sakic, pretty much an iginla with a lie 5.

I tried the Heatley, hated it. It was more of a heel curve it seemed, and i didn't like it at all. I think i'll just cut down my sticks a little, since I love the sakic curve so much. I think i'll be able to deal with a half inch shorter stick.

[oggy_3 0]

Couldnt find anything other topics so i Don't mean to jack your topic but i have a drury and its a 5.5 lie. i know the toe is higher and i thought because i use such a tall stick that i need a 5 lie. would i need a 5 lie or a 6?? thanks oggy_3

[srv2miker 0]

Couldnt find anything other topics so i Don't mean to jack your topic but i have a drury and its a 5.5 lie. i know the toe is higher and i thought because i use such a tall stick that i need a 5 lie. would i need a 5 lie or a 6?? thanks oggy_3

Check the wear on your tape. If it's wearing mostly at the heel then yes, you should go to a 5, or use a shorter stick/adjust your style.