snap shot

[ramensandwich 1]

hi everyone, i'm new here. i'm working on my snap shot, and i wondered what part of the blade i should take this shot off of?

i've always used a forsberg pattern and i just can't get any spin on this snap shot so the puck will lay flat in the air. currently, it kind of wobbles around.

suggestions?

[DamnLocust 0]

generally, you want to start most shots from the part of your blade that the curve starts. the forsberg is a mid-heel curve, so that would be where you want to go.

In general, the closer to the heel you start your shot, the more spin you'll get on the puck.

[santiclaws 0]

shouldn't matter what kind of shot, the technique is pretty much the same. The puck should travel from around the heel to the toe.

[TBLfan 25]

see if you can get it to fly nice and flat, maybe there's an issue with the lie of the blade. Follow through hard across your body, in an exaggerated motion and, of course, close your wrists. Once you get it to fly flat, start working your way towards a normal shot motion.

This is how I adjust to different patterns and I can use just about any pattern after a few shots... Admittently, this may not work for everyone, but it works for me.

[Chadd 916]

I use the same motion for all of my shots, the only difference is in the windup. Everything goes heel to toe to generate as much spin as possible.

Obviously the little chip shots in tight are a different story.

[dbeck 0]

see if you can get it to fly nice and flat, maybe there's an issue with the lie of the blade. Follow through hard across your body, in an exaggerated motion and, of course, close your wrists. Once you get it to fly flat, start working your way towards a normal shot motion.

This is how I adjust to different patterns and I can use just about any pattern after a few shots... Admittently, this may not work for everyone, but it works for me.

TBL, I am still not too sure how to find the right lie/curve for me. I have been using my Wellwood prostock One90 for a month or so and I notice that everytime after 2 to 3 ice sessions, the tape would rip around the heel area of the blade. Does that indicate that I am using a stick with a wrong lie?

[DamnLocust 0]

That means you can likely benefit from a stick with a lower lie. The best way to determine the lie of your Wellwoods is to compare it to retail patterns to see where it stands.

[dbeck 0]

Thanks. Is it possible to just grab a stick in a store and determine whether the line is perfect for me? Or do I have to play with it to find out? So when I am on the ice, how do I tell if the lie is good?

Sorry to jack the thread but I really need to find this out since it's really affecting my shot and my stickhandling sometimes.

[kovalchuk71 212]

Take your old stick, match the blades up to eachoter at the heel, and look at where the shats are compared to eachother. The shaft that is angled higher up in the air has a higher lie, while the one that is angled lower will have the lower lie. Seems you are looking for one that is slightly lower.

[swede 50]

That means you can likely benefit from a stick with a lower lie.

Isn't it the oposite way?

To low lie = wearing out the tape at the heel

To high lie = wearing out the tape at the toe

Perfect lie = wearing out the tape in the middle?

[TBLfan 25]

That means you can likely benefit from a stick with a lower lie.

Isn't it the oposite way?

To low lie = wearing out the tape at the heel

To high lie = wearing out the tape at the toe

Perfect lie = wearing out the tape in the middle?

Nope:

To low lie = wearing out the tape at the toe

To high lie = wearing out the tape at the heel

Perfect lie = wearing out the tape in the middle and slightly more at the heel(compared to the toe).

I'm REALLY flexible with lies and curves, as I just adjust my hand position for different lies but I tend to prefer a 5.5-6.5 lie. I can see how the lie will work as I'm standing in street shoes(keep in mind that street shoes are shorter than skate holders so you need to adjust your knee bend accordingly), with my knees very slightly bent. I just hold the stick to my hip. It makes it close enough to make the decision to buy or not to buy and when all else fails, you can cut the stick or add an endplug.

[sabre09923 0]

I'll add to TBL's wear chart:

Too low lie/Stick too short=Wear at Toe

Too high lie/Stick too long=Wear at Heel

Perfect lie/Stick length=Even Wear.

I think I have it right... Not sure though.

[dbeck 0]

Hey guys, I just got a new stick with a lower lie (as suggested by you guys) than my One90 stick and now I can finally shoot slapshots! However, I have a tough time trying to keep the puck low now. Before, I could rarely lift the puck off the ice. I think it was mainly due to the lie of my One90 stick. With the One90, I would always noticed severe tape wear near the heel of the blade after taking some slapshot attempts.

I went to stick and puck with my new stick (a pro-stock Sundin Stealth CNT) today and with it, I am always shooting way too high and missing the net a lot. I even shot the puck into the net behind the goal a few times. Compared to the old stick, the new one is stiffer (105 flex vs 77 flex), the curve is way more "curvy" (Sundin pro-stock VS Wellwood pro-stock) and the new stick is shorter (the new one is slightly below my top lip and the old one is slightly above my nose). You guys got any idea why this is happening? I checked the blade of the Stealth after shooting 100+ shots and the tape seems to wear very evenly - this seems to indicate that I've found the right lie.

Also, I am just wondering what is Sundin's preferred shot? I find it hard to shoot good wristshots with his curve (maybe it's more to do with my skills). The curve is kinda "closed" and slightly more curvy near the toe of the blade. So when I rolled the puck off the blade, the puck would rarely stay nice and flat. Instead, the puck would roll horizontally...is there anything I can do to cure this problem?

Sorry if none of what I said above make sense as I am still far from familiar with proper hockey terms. I would really appreciate any advices from you guys. Thank you!

[sabre09923 0]

The curve probably has a lot more loft than what you're used to, but I have no idea what the pro Sundin looks like.

[dbeck 0]

I will take some pictures and post them up later. What's the best way to capture the curve? like which angle or position should I use to take the picture of the blade?

[TBLfan 25]

down the shaft.

The stick has a different curve, different lie and different flex... I really hope you weren't expecting to make an lateral adjustment, it's going to take some getting used to(if you can get used to it).

[dbeck 0]

TBL, so any blade should be able to produce a good wristshot as long as I can adapt to it properly?

[TBLfan 25]

exactly. Look at the differences in NHLer's patterns, all of them can shoot a wrister. Some might be better at it than others but that's just like everything else(skating, slap shots, whatever). And of course some curves are going to make certain things easier but it all boils down to form, talent, overall ability and some sort of comfort level.

[dbeck 0]

That's good to know :) Btw, do you know what's Sundin's preferred shot? Is he a wrister?

[ramensandwich 1]

i watch every leafs game on center ice, and from what i see, sundin prefers the snap shot.

i saw his stick at centresports in the acc and the blade didn't look very open to me.

[Chadd 916]

i watch every leafs game on center ice, and from what i see, sundin prefers the snap shot.

i saw his stick at centresports in the acc and the blade didn't look very open to me.

The one I have is pretty open.

[ramensandwich 1]

im not disputing you chadd.

i've seen him using sticks with both square and round toes, so i don't really think he's ever made up his mind.

[Jarick 5]

Quick question, is a snap shot like a wrister without the stick loading or a slapper without the windup? I've seen it described both ways.

[Chadd 916]

Quick question, is a snap shot like a wrister without the stick loading or a slapper without the windup? I've seen it described both ways.

If you use the same motion for all three shots like I do, both descriptions would be accurate. There is no need to lean on your stick to load it if you use the right flex.

[dbeck 0]

I've shot more with my stick today and I am very happy with it for slapshots. I can constantly hit the cross bar from near the blue line. Also, I can get decent slapper off without having to use too much power and thus losing balance. However, the stick is really not too good for wrist shots. The Ondrus pro-stock curve on the other hand is much better for wristers. Maybe I should start practising snap shots haha