Some glove questions

[CrazedHockeyDad 0]

1) CCM's new catalogue makes a bunch of noise about their cuff design and how it permits a free range of wrist motion, but when I went to the local shop to compare them, RBK's split cuff seems to give more mobility. Any recommendations for gloves with greater wrist movement?

2) What do you think about a shorter cuff with a slash guard... or a slash guard in general?

3) Some (higher end) gloves are now coming with palms made of various materials sewn together. What do you do with them when you wear through the palm? Do you end up with a radically different feel after a repair?

TIA

[LkptTiger 1]

1) I get the impression that Eagle's entire line offers terrific mobility. I've tried-on most all of the gloves they've put on the market (high and low end models) and owned a pair of X70s. Absolutely no problems with obstruction of any kind of movement.

2) I used to wear slash-guards way back in the day (and by that, I mean back when I was a Squirt, which I suppose really wasn't all that long ago). Didn't like 'em - they were a bit bulky, they cut-down on wrist mobility and, after awhile on the ice, would make my whole lower-arm hot and uncomfortable. Ultimately, I think they did more harm than good. Haven't used them since...I think I probably gave them away.

3) I suppose it could cause problems if you were to become attached to the spandex-type material found on many models...but, I'll bet that if you're willing to shell-out a few extra bucks on your re-palming and get yourself some quality palms, you won't have any complaints.

[Doctor Hook 0]

I got a pair of NikeBauer 4-Rolls and they have great wrist mobility and protection. $90 for a high end glove, can't go wrong.

[Chadd 916]

I have yet to wear any glove that actually hampers wrist movement in game situations. People tend to overestimate the need for wrist "mobility" when trying on gloves in the shop. How often have you actually had your wrist bent far enough one way or the other that you can touch your forearm with you fingertip during a game?

If players are really laying the lumber on your wrists, you should wear them in any league. It really shouldn't be much of a problem for most kids but in especially violent leagues I would heartily endorse them. Personally, I don't use them. I don't lug the puck through traffic very often so they don't make any difference to me.

Repalming with nash can be a significant downgrade from a pittard palm. I have a couple pair of old gloves I'd love to get repalmed with a nice digital or goat palm if I could find them.

[JR Boucicaut 3804]

Find the palm or the glove?

Fixitbymail has both...they just don't advertise it on their site.

[Chadd 916]

Find the palm or the glove?

Fixitbymail has both...they just don't advertise it on their site.

They used to have them listed on their website, I thought they stopped carrying them when they pulled them from the site. Hopefully I can get them to do the gusset mod I've been trying to convince everyone to make on retail models.

[The Stranger 0]

Find the palm or the glove?

Fixitbymail has both...they just don't advertise it on their site.

They used to have them listed on their website, I thought they stopped carrying them when they pulled them from the site. Hopefully I can get them to do the gusset mod I've been trying to convince everyone to make on retail models.

Let us know if they do that, I have the same problem.

[CrazedHockeyDad 0]

I have yet to wear any glove that actually hampers wrist movement in game situations. People tend to overestimate the need for wrist "mobility" when trying on gloves in the shop. How often have you actually had your wrist bent far enough one way or the other that you can touch your forearm with you fingertip during a game?

If players are really laying the lumber on your wrists, you should wear them in any league. It really shouldn't be much of a problem for most kids but in especially violent leagues I would heartily endorse them. Personally, I don't use them. I don't lug the puck through traffic very often so they don't make any difference to me.

Repalming with nash can be a significant downgrade from a pittard palm. I have a couple pair of old gloves I'd love to get repalmed with a nice digital or goat palm if I could find them.

I was watching my kid's wrist while handling the puck and her (crappy Bauer X) gloves were definitely preventing her wrist from "flexing" or bending back. I'd estimate the angle of bend allowed as being less than 45 degrees before the fairly rigid cuff would hit the top of her forearm and prevent any further motion. Without the glove she has about 90 degrees of motion. That seems like a considerable difference, and her 'hands' aren't great so we've been focussing on them. It looks like she's playing with locked wrists...

The new Bauer 190s have a palm that's made of a patchwork of something leather-ish and something like a very heavy spandex-like material. It gives a close fitting "positive" feel, but I'm left wondering how you'd repalm that, and what it would be like after doing so.

Other gloves have similar-but-different arrangements of leather-elastic materials.

[CrazedHockeyDad 0]

1) I get the impression that Eagle's entire line offers terrific mobility. I've tried-on most all of the gloves they've put on the market (high and low end models) and owned a pair of X70s. Absolutely no problems with obstruction of any kind of movement.

I looked at Eagles. Their strategy seems to be to leave a big wide open cuff. Easton has some gloves with a two-part cuff where one piece straps to your forearm, and the big rigid roll moves with the glove....it has me thinking how hard it must make it to take off your gloves.

2) I used to wear slash-guards way back in the day (and by that, I mean back when I was a Squirt, which I suppose really wasn't all that long ago). Didn't like 'em - they were a bit bulky, they cut-down on wrist mobility and, after awhile on the ice, would make my whole lower-arm hot and uncomfortable. Ultimately, I think they did more harm than good. Haven't used them since...I think I probably gave them away.

I've anticipated most of those problems with'em except the mobility issue. The local over-priced store doesn't even carry them (or cheaper sticks) so I don't even know what they look like.

3) I suppose it could cause problems if you were to become attached to the spandex-type material found on many models...but, I'll bet that if you're willing to shell-out a few extra bucks on your re-palming and get yourself some quality palms, you won't have any complaints.

So you do lose the tight, elastic feel after repalming. That makes this 'feature' pretty expensive....about $20/month.

[Stampede#11 0]

Your daughter's hand moving back 45 degrees before the top of the glove limits further flex may be due the glove size being too large? Or Elbow pads being too long?

I don't see why over 45 degrees would be required on a backward hand bend? 45 each way would enable you to roll your wrists for puck handling & shooting.

I play with the Vapor XXX because of how open they are for wrist roll. So your daughter using the V's, I would think despite being a price point glove, that would still be a pretty open fit in that range.

If soft hands need to be worked on, I doubt the glove would have much to do with it ... just practice practice practice, hence why my hands are like concrete cos I was far more bothered about shooting at a young age ... now I can do neither! YouTube has a few short videos for decent drills you can do in the garage to practice.

[Chadd 916]

If soft hands need to be worked on, I doubt the glove would have much to do with it ... just practice practice practice, hence why my hands are like concrete cos I was far more bothered about shooting at a young age ... now I can do neither! YouTube has a few short videos for decent drills you can do in the garage to practice.

I couldn't agree more.

[CrazedHockeyDad 0]

Your daughter's hand moving back 45 degrees before the top of the glove limits further flex may be due the glove size being too large? Or Elbow pads being too long?

Without pads in this case, and I said less than 45 and, going from memory, it's more like 30.

I don't see why over 45 degrees would be required on a backward hand bend? 45 each way would enable you to roll your wrists for puck handling & shooting.

Say....on a back-handed wrap-around? Those last few degrees are the diff between a goal and one squirting away.

I play with the Vapor XXX because of how open they are for wrist roll. So your daughter using the V's, I would think despite being a price point glove, that would still be a pretty open fit in that range.

Not as much as the XXX.

If soft hands need to be worked on, I doubt the glove would have much to do with it ... just practice practice practice, hence why my hands are like concrete cos I was far more bothered about shooting at a young age ... now I can do neither! YouTube has a few short videos for decent drills you can do in the garage to practice.

Thanks.

[mrusse01 0]

I can't imagine a glove that allows more wrist movement than the XXX's.

I wore wrist guards when I was playing contact hockey, never bothered me and actually got to the point where my wrists felt 'naked' without them and I ended up wearing them all the time. I'd often lose/forget them at home at would have to tap my wrist to simulate the feel of it, I'm just funny that way I guess.

[CrazedHockeyDad 0]

I can't imagine a glove that allows more wrist movement than the XXX's.

The XXX are very good at this, but I saw some pro stock RBKs with a cuff made of three overlapping pieces that splayed apart when you flex...it was remarkable for what looks like a fairly long cuffed glove.

[Jarick 5]

I use CCM Vector 10's with a tighter but smaller cuff, works fine for me. I like a tight fitting glove with a smaller cuff, feels more mobile. I do use those TPS wristband slash guards, but I haven't been slashed since I got them. I doubt they'd do the job like a big bulky glove, but it's better than nothing.

[wonderenzo 0]

Depending on how old she is, she will probably have narrow fingers also. look for nash gussets to help keep her fingers in place, my friends little brother uses mia mb10s, great quality little glove.

[TBLfan 25]

I have also(see chadd's comment) never seen a glove that was really restrictive on the ice. Just because a cuff is tight doesn't mean that it's restrictive. My one90s are just as (un)restrictive as my eagles. The Vapor XXX has an open cuff flair but again, I doubt that even the (new) supremes are the least bit more restrictive than the XXXs.

There's a difference between tight and restrictive. There's also a difference between bulky and restrictive.

[CrazedHockeyDad 0]

FYI, ended up with the Reebok 9k.

Very nice gloves. Lots of motion in the cuff, kevlar on part of the multi-layer palm, diagonal cut over the outer knuckles, dry fit interior with vents. Helluva time finding them in black, though.

[TBLfan 25]

I'm not sold on the dampening pads on the palm, they feel awkward on batting gloves... I'd imagine they'd be worse on hockey gloves... Can't go wrong with a top-of-the-line glove.

[CrazedHockeyDad 0]

It's the one thing about the glove that has me a bit worried about it. We'll see.

Depending on how old she is, she will probably have narrow fingers also. look for nash gussets to help keep her fingers in place, my friends little brother uses mia mb10s, great quality little glove.

What's 'nash', and what does it look like? The 9k's have some soft pebble-grained leather-like stuff, some black elastic stuff and some kevlar on the palms. The gussets are made of soft off-white leatherish stuff....

[Chadd 916]

Depending on how old she is, she will probably have narrow fingers also. look for nash gussets to help keep her fingers in place, my friends little brother uses mia mb10s, great quality little glove.

What's 'nash', and what does it look like? The 9k's have some soft pebble-grained leather-like stuff, some black elastic stuff and some kevlar on the palms. The gussets are made of soft off-white leatherish stuff....

Nash is the off-white leather-ish looking stuff. It's a synthetic leather.