Peter Forsberg's problems with his feet...

[djinferno 2]

Man, this article hit home big time wen I saw it this morning, ever since I got hurt in those stupid defective Grafs, I'm having this exact problem with my right ankle...

I will never get the medical attention he gets so I feel like I'm SOL now...

http://www.tsn.ca/blogs/?id=222239

[Law Goalie 147]

Send him a letter. You may never hear back, but what the hell.

He may also want to use you as his surgical guinea pig. :)

[psh 25]

He's barely 34 years old. Very sad, but it seems like his decline picked up pace ever since his burst spleen and the lockout. The concept of retirement seems to be setting in with him now, and I suspect this is the last straw. Given how private he has always been, it would be fitting to announce from Sweden over the summer so nobody really noticed. Damn, I'll miss watching him.

[chk hrd 164]

I was watching NHL on the Fly last night. One of the commentators played with Forsberg in Colorado when they won their cups. He said Forsberg started having bad ankle problems back then and went through skates like they were candy.

It is a shame that he may have to end his career this way. He is a great player to watch.

[djinferno 2]

I was watching NHL on the Fly last night. One of the commentators played with Forsberg in Colorado when they won their cups. He said Forsberg started having bad ankle problems back then and went through skates like they were candy.

It is a shame that he may have to end his career this way. He is a great player to watch.

kind of like me, but without his budget, Before my spill, I had gone with Vapor 8, Vapor 10, Quest 1 then Graf 703's in the span of 10 years with no problems... After my incident with my defective skates, I Had Vapor XX, Vapor XXX, S500, XP110, Pure Flys, One90's, I'm presently in CCM Vector Pros, all this in the span of 2 years but the same thing is happening, 9K's wont fit at the ankle and I'm sure I would destroy S15's in a week... i think my last try will be with Vapor 40's but in a custom fit...

Send him a letter. You may never hear back, but what the hell.

He may also want to use you as his surgical guinea pig. :)

i don't get it

[Law Goalie 147]

I mean rather than risking his feet to more suspect operations, he pays someone (possibly you!) to undergo dangerous experimental surgeries.

[djinferno 2]

I mean rather than risking his feet to more suspect operations, he pays someone (possibly you!) to undergo dangerous experimental surgeries.

that's an unadvised remark, no 2 people are the same so even tho my ankle is rolling like his and no boot fits like him, still does not mean we have the same problem...

[pantherfan 0]

Seemed to be a humorous post to me, but hey what do I know.

[Theo 1]

I mean rather than risking his feet to more suspect operations, he pays someone (possibly you!) to undergo dangerous experimental surgeries.

that's an unadvised remark, no 2 people are the same so even tho my ankle is rolling like his and no boot fits like him, still does not mean we have the same problem...

Christ...

I get it Law Goalie

[Petey21 1]

About Forsberg's foot problems, I've heard from a source close to him that the ting is that when he puts pressure on the foot it like bends upwards like an arch and becomes a size shorter in length but much higher, and the foot slips around in the skates so they are like loose in a way. Hard to explain, but maybe you get the idea. And he laces the skates so tight so it shouldn't even be possible, but somehow the foot bends like that inside the skates no matter how tight they are.

So I was thinking, maybe a real custom skate could help solve the problem, not just custom Vapors but a totally new skate model customized for that foot. One idea from someone I talked to about this could be some kind of skate that would have the top like open up, like with a hinge on the side, so then when his foot is placed on the inside, then the top can close down on it, and it would maybe be a smaller skate than the other one cause it would be built for how his foot is bent?

Or maybe even a skate that is built kind like the kid-style skates below (but dressed up like regular skates so he wouldn't get picked on for playing in kids skates), real tight and rock hard skates with hinges, to make them as tight as possible, like an alpine boot. That should make it impossible for the foot to bend within the skates, right?

[Law Goalie 147]

I think I should have been wearing my jester's hat. I can't even tell you how much trouble I got into when I took it off to do the limbo at the secret policeman's ball.

[bigdaddykane 0]

he is not done, he hasn't only been having the ankle problems recently, when he took a break and announced his "retirement" after the spleen surgery, it was also due to his ankles, he went through 46 skates in a couple of seasons, and he came back. i really, really hope he does again.

[halfmoonyote 0]

I think he's really done this time.

One of things he said was that he's 'embarrassed himself enough' over the past few years. This is a guy who is used to dominating, and I think he's finally realizing, it's just not gonna happen anymore. And if he can't play at the level HE feels is adequate, he's hanging them up.

I'm really going to miss watching the guy play. Always been one of my favorites.

[djinferno 2]

About Forsberg's foot problems, I've heard from a source close to him that the ting is that when he puts pressure on the foot it like bends upwards like an arch and becomes a size shorter in length but much higher, and the foot slips around in the skates so they are like loose in a way. Hard to explain, but maybe you get the idea. And he laces the skates so tight so it shouldn't even be possible, but somehow the foot bends like that inside the skates no matter how tight they are.

From researching this and feeling it myself, I can almost positively tell you that thats not the problem, whats is happening is his metatarsals or any mid foot bone like the Cuboid bone, most likely on his outer foot are pushing on the bone that supports his ankle, the calcaneus, this is causing a outward rotation that his ligaments cant control so wen he takes a stride, is foot is not under is tibial bone on his leg and his ankle falls inward...

in every day life, it's not too bad but elevated on skates no matter how tight you put them, your foot can still rotate out... to fix his issue he would have to shave a foot in the mid foot and that would mean major surgery and he said he did not want to do that because if you change a bone in your foot and it's wrong, they will end up having to put pins all over until your foot stablelises and trust me no surgeon in his right mind will do that unless you sight big wavers and Peter himself knows the risk is too big...

Now people will ask how does this happen, well it can be a birth defect or in his case if the bone has too much friction, over time the bone regenerates it's self automatically to protect the bone, like a defense mechanism... In my case my case, I damaged my outer metatarsal while falling in a corner because of a defective skate...

whats really frustrating about this problem is that orthotics don't help because it controls arch support but not foot rotation, in this case, it makes it worst...

What the doctors did in the past what try to shorten his Flexor Retinaculum

[sjsharks11 0]

I mean rather than risking his feet to more suspect operations, he pays someone (possibly you!) to undergo dangerous experimental surgeries.

that's an unadvised remark, no 2 people are the same so even tho my ankle is rolling like his and no boot fits like him, still does not mean we have the same problem...

it's a joke bro

[Shark#81 0]

The skate we are working on has the potential to help athletes recovering from foot & ankle injuries - including Forsberg.

The inside liner is a three dimensional 100% heat mold (foot bed, sides, tongue, ankle, heel, toe etc.) so no matter what your foot shape you'll get a great fit. The outside boot is carbon composite and very stiff, so it provides stability and support.

I built the skate for me - My right ankle was shredded 3 times waterskiing in about 3 years. Never wanting to do that again I started FM sports as we designed and built a better/safer waterski binding.

In skating I had real stability issues on my one leg, felt really nervous going into corners or approaching the end boards with speed etc. The new skate solved that and I am much more powerful and comfortable on the ice, and way faster than I've ever been. My profile has a web address (jagersport)if you want to check it out.

[Krev 86]

That is one damn expensive skate you've got there. But the benefits seem to be more than enough to justify the cost for it. Be interesting to see Forsberg skating in those. But if he wants to play, I think he'd do whatever it took to get back if something like this, maybe your product, but something like this...worked for him.

[Patrick67 1]

Lol that would be the biggest scoop ever.

I can already see the headline: "Forsberg pays the NHL licens fee for unknown skatebrand"

[djinferno 2]

I saw my foot doc yesterday and he proposed this to me...

I wonder if this would work for Forsbe...

http://www.footdoc-il.com/coupon.htm

[Shark#81 0]

That is one damn expensive skate you've got there. But the benefits seem to be more than enough to justify the cost for it. Be interesting to see Forsberg skating in those.

True and true. The cost posted is the approximate price to custom make a pair of boots. (If these were knocked off in China, they'd be less than any top of the line). Following manufacturing is a tuning process, or at least what I do to set them up: Mold & adjust the EVA liner, align the blades/holders on the boot sole using an artificial ice pad, install the holders, then tune the boot & liner for forward flex, support/depth, and what we call the flexion apex.

For me anyway, there is such a fine line between skates that bring power and confidence to my game or a setup that bugs me and is so-so. It's quite complex technically, but something I am used to doing for water-skiing setups. I've also noticed the skates have to be at body temperature for best performance, which takes about 10 minutes of warm-up.

An orthotic sole is not nearly enough. That just handles the foot bed, which is like say 20% of the equation. Skating is extremely demanding and you need to basically have a perfectly fitted orthotic system for the entire foot and ankle areas - 100% coverage. That is what the Game7 system provides, that no other skate can do.

DJ - if you had a good ankle before you got hurt you should be OK. My ankle is pretty bad - doctors can see it right away from an xray. As a matter of fact I can hardly run. But I can skate, and in the boot it's OK, I can play for hours at full tilt.

Search for "360 hockey trick moves Game7 Carbon Skate" on Youtube. I did a video while re-habbing my shoulder..

[bigdaddykane 0]

he is not done, he hasn't only been having the ankle problems recently, when he took a break and announced his "retirement" after the spleen surgery, it was also due to his ankles, he went through 46 skates in a couple of seasons, and he came back. i really, really hope he does again.

http://v4.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=11214

[Fletch 219]

I saw my foot doc yesterday and he proposed this to me...

I wonder if this would work for Forsbe...

http://www.footdoc-il.com/coupon.htm

I just got that same surgery (MBA Subtalar implant) on my left foot in late August. I'm still recovering and still in quite a bit of pain but I am confident I will be better off in the long run. Feel free to PM me or ask away here if you have any questions.

Oh and I'm getting the right foot done in late January, so no hockey for me for a loooong time which sucks, but my well being is more important to me than beer leagues and pick-up ;)

[RadioGaGa 162]

TSN reported today that he saw another specialist (in Phoneix - I think?) that says he has a new brace that will allow him to continue playing.

[ScottMan 0]

^Good news. I hate to see someone with so much skill go down because of an injury or his body breaking down. That's the worst. Go out like a champion.

[Fletch 219]

DJInferno PM'ed me about this and I thought I would post my response to him here in case anyone was curious about this type of operation -

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My feet are severely pronated and had been since I was 15 or so....(I'm 31 now). I got the surgery done because my lower back, knees and hips were starting to really bug me. Also, the arches had collapsed so badly that my bones along the arch stuck out so much that I couldn't wear any newer skate models like the Vapor series because they were so stiff, so skate shopping became a major problem....lol.

I had the left foot done because my Podiatrist deemed it "worse" than my right. I actually had 4 incisions made -

1. On the outside of my left foot (to insert the implant).

2. Right over the arch (to shave the bone down and to cut my posterior tibial tendon and reattach it to the bone using a titanium anchor).

3. On the top of the foot, right near the middle where they cut my bone and "wedged" it open and inserted bone paste, which will ultimately turn to bone to add more stability to my forefoot/big toe.

4. On my calf, to cut right down the middle of my fascia to add more flexability to my calf.

Of course, what I had done deviated a little from the norm because my left foot was really messed up. I was also on crutches for 6 weeks, then in the walking boot (AKA Cam Walker) for 3 weeks, then into a normal shoe with my custom orthotics, and that's basically where I'm at now.

I do have an arch now, but I am still going to physical therapy to improve the strength in the foot (the muscles atrphohied quite a bit and I developed a lot of scar tissue where the incisions were made).

I can pretty much walk without a limp now, finally but there is still a LOT of pain on the ball of my foot, and that concerns me because obviously that's an important part of your foot for skating. But, I am not even at 3 months post-op yet so I know I still have a ways to go.

BTW, my surgery was considered "reconstructive" foot surgery so it's definetely going to take some time. My doctor told me the other day that I won't be 100% healed for a full year but that doesn't mean I can't start skating on it for a full year. Not that that matters anyway since I am having the right one done in January. I'm looking at July/August as to when I'll be able to skate again.

Here's another link I found that shows the MBA side of things in a little more detail -

http://www.wetreatfeet.com/MBA%20Flatfoot%20Implant.htm