Hockey players will be hockey players

[Nutella 0]

So, reffing last week my fellow linesman called a hooking with five seconds left on the clock. The captain of one of the teams (who had moaned about everything the entire game) gets up in his face and tells him to, "Read the rules sometime, faggot." us refs are also players. The other ref responded by sacking the whiner and we had us an interesting fight. Ref vs. player fights are not too common, right?

[Blueandgold26 1]

ha i could see a ref just whaling the shit outta this player who is curled up in a ball, did the ref get suspended

[604bullet 0]

that's happened with my team once

there's this one ref that we think absolutely hate us and just calls everything he can against us. so one day one of the goons on my team decided to fight the ref

player and ref got suspended...lol

[Nutella 0]

No. The player was ejected for the rest of the season for calling him a "faggot" and the ref didn't get in trouble because I stepped in and 'spiced' up the truth a bit. The player really did have it coming. He also did get his butt handed to him.

[Guitarmy 0]

That's great he got suspended AND his ass handed to him. :D We don't need people like that playing hockey.

[msander 0]

That's great he got suspended AND his ass handed to him. :D We don't need people like that playing hockey.

We also don't need people like that reffing hockey...

Guys chirp at refs at every level, from rookie beer league through to the NHL. At most levels, it's pretty pointless and stupid, but refs should realize it's going to happen. If a player crosses the line, then that's what misconducts are for. Personally, I think a ref instigating a fight with a player over a comment like that is beyond bush league. The guy sounds like an ass clown to me.

[nizmo 0]

We also don't need people like that reffing hockey...

I couldn't agree more.

[quasi 0]

And Nutella sounds like a jackass for lying about the incident.

Good thing being a referee doesn't require any integrity.

[Blueandgold26 1]

Some refs think their the biggest hardasses its so funny, but still u don't get in their face and call them a faggot it not gonna change the call.

[Nutella 0]

I didn't lie, I left some parts of the truth out.

Last time I checked I missed the NHL clinic.

The player had it coming and we all had a good time. You should probably spazz out a bit more guys.

[quasi 0]

I didn't lie, I left some parts of the truth out.

Last time I checked I missed the NHL clinic.

The player had it coming and we all had a good time. You should probably spazz out a bit more guys.

That still doesn't make it right.

There's no doubt that the guy deserved punishment, but that's what penalties and suspensions are for. A ref instigating a fight with a player is just as sad as a player hitting a ref.

And of course, with your selective truth, the ref probably won't be punished.

[Nutella 0]

That is the idea.

We get paid scraps to put up with this crap for hours on end.

I am not going to rat him out for defending himself.

[quasi 0]

How is instigating a fight defending himself? Did the big bad player's words hurt the ref? I wish I could start a fight everytime someone chirped at me during a game.

I assume you aren't reffing for a living. If you think you're being paid poorly for the crap you have to put up, either ask for a wage increase, find something better to do with your time, or suck it up and realize that neithers players nor refs are perfect, and both are sometimes assholes.

If I were in this situation, I would let each bench know that complaining and arguing will not be tolerated during the game, maybe give each team a warning, and then start handing out penalties. Be proactive before it gets out of hand.

[Nutella 0]

Defending his pride/ego/position/whatever.

I reff because I enjoy doing it and I am fair and proactive most of the time.

However, when you have a single guy chirping over every call made (also not the captain or assistant) at a 2 AM game, it gets pretty irritating. We have to play these guys later ourselves and ejecting a guy for chirping would get you targeted more so than just putting him in his place.

[Monty22 833]

This thread is a train wreck. It sounds like everyone involved in the incident needs to grow up or quit playing/reffing.

[Nutella 0]

I should quit reffing because the other linesman got in a fight and I do not feel like being a rat?

[rinkrat94 1]

Defending his pride/ego/position/whatever.

I reff because I enjoy doing it and I am fair and proactive most of the time.

However, when you have a single guy chirping over every call made (also not the captain or assistant) at a 2 AM game, it gets pretty irritating. We have to play these guys later ourselves and ejecting a guy for chirping would get you targeted more so than just putting him in his place.

Give the guy a warning, and then if he continues to bitch throw him out of the game. You shouldn't be allowed to ref and play in the same league, it just leads to all types of problems.

[Monty22 833]

This thread is a train wreck. It sounds like everyone involved in the incident needs to grow up or quit playing/reffing.

I should quit reffing because the other linesman got in a fight and I do not feel like being a rat?

Yes.

[Nutella 0]

This thread is a train wreck. It sounds like everyone involved in the incident needs to grow up or quit playing/reffing.

I should quit reffing because the other linesman got in a fight and I do not feel like being a rat?

Yes.

As well versed and educated as I think your opinion may be: go fuck yourself.

[chippa13 1844]

That is the idea.

We get paid scraps to put up with this crap for hours on end.

I am not going to rat him out for defending himself.

If you don't like it then stop reffing. Problem solved. How exactly was your pal defending himself by scrapping with a player? Was he hurt so badly with the guy's words? Honestly, a simple misconduct works a lot better than being as asshole. Dollars to donuts, the next time you ref that team there will be some high clear outs. Pay attention.

Defending his pride/ego/position/whatever.

I reff because I enjoy doing it and I am fair and proactive most of the time.

However, when you have a single guy chirping over every call made (also not the captain or assistant) at a 2 AM game, it gets pretty irritating. We have to play these guys later ourselves and ejecting a guy for chirping would get you targeted more so than just putting him in his place.

Give the guy a warning, and then if he continues to bitch throw him out of the game. You shouldn't be allowed to ref and play in the same league, it just leads to all types of problems.

I actually reffed and played in the same league for a few years. If you are a good ref then there won't be any problems.

[Chadd 916]

I should quit reffing because the other linesman got in a fight and I do not feel like being a rat?

As a 10 year official, yes. The intergrity of the game is far more important than covering for a guy. If he didn't do anything wrong, you wouldn't have to cover for him. If he did do something wrong, he needs to man up and deal with the consequences.

As well versed and educated as I think your opinion may be: go fuck yourself.

This is obviously unacceptable, warning/suspension issued.

[Maka 0]

In response to your statement about "being a rat," don't forget that you're a referee. Your job in itself suggests that you have a sense and integrity and the ability to act objectively and without any ulterior motives. You're not being a rat, you're doing your job.

Lest we forget that you are actually being paid for your services as a ref by this league. Your employer probably wouldn't think very highly of you if they were to discover that you were withholding information from them regarding the incident at hand.

[Monty22 833]

Nutella,

You make a post about a glaring example of everything that can be wrong with adult rec hockey, and then get upset because nobody is patting you on the back. Just going off your posts and your description of the incident, you and your partner clearly should not be officiating anything. He dosen't have the composure and you lack the integrity the position demands. The player involved is no better, but there are much better ways of dealing with people like that. If it's a money thing, there are other part time jobs you may be better suited for.

[Chadd 916]

Nutella,

You make a post about a glaring example of everything that can be wrong with adult rec hockey, and then get upset because nobody is patting you on the back. Just going off your posts and your description of the incident, you and your partner clearly should not be officiating anything. He dosen't have the composure and you lack the integrity the position demands. The player involved is no better, but there are much better ways of dealing with people like that. If it's a money thing, there are other part time jobs you may be better suited for.

There are a number of local officials who complain about me because of my honesty. Many of the local guys wearing stripes don't have the integrity to do to blow the whistle on themselves or their partners.

[Rustpot 1]

I was reffing a game last season and wasn't quite quick enough on my feet to hop on the ledge, so I let it hit me. Player says "get out of the way you fucking fatass." Now I know I could have jumped to the ice to get out of the way, but it was a fast clearing shot from the corner. I just yell back "then don't shoot it right at the big guy standing on the boards!"

Now I take offense to being called a fatass, not because I'm not just because it's mean, but if I had called him for unsportsmanlike over that I would have the whole team taking shots at me.

Reffing and playing in general leads to conflict. I had a team that was mostly refs and they wanted me to call every time someone lifted their stick, and the captain wrote on the gamesheet that we were calling the game one-sided.

Another time I was playing and I took a stick to the helmet. I was on my knees, but I still got cracked pretty good in the side of the head. I went up to the ref who is a buddy of mine and tell him he's gotta call that. Not 5 minutes later I get cracked in the head again to where it knocks me over. Refs blows the whistle and comes up to me and asks what penalty to call. I shook my head and said "2 minute high sticking at least." That made the other team really happy... yeesh.

Isn't college rec league real fun? :D