oviefan887 0 Report post Posted January 16, 2008 I have been thinking of playing inline hockey in the summer in order to stay in shape for ice, and to improve puckhandling and other things. I have heard people say that inline hockey messes up your ice stride, while other people have said that it doesn't. I don't know what to believe because I have seen kids on me ice hockey team (who also play roller) and they seem to skate with the arms tucked into their side. Not that this is a big deal, but would playing inline hockey in the off season mess up my ice stride. Also, I have been playing hockey for about 10 years, now I'm 15, would this hurt more since I would start doing this so late? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spreedizzle 1 Report post Posted January 16, 2008 The main difference that I see how inline hampers my ice stride is in the toe snap at the final stage of your push. The toe snap on inline is much less effective and often slips on the surface, thus making it ineffective. After being on inlines for a while and hopping back on the ice it takes me about 2 minutes to realize that I am being lazy with the snap and fall right back into my ice stride. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sdcopp 1 Report post Posted January 16, 2008 can't remember the names or find when I posted it, but there were two brothers who grew up in NY and learned to skate on quads. They didn't hit ice until later like HS or college and both made it to the NHL and had good careers. If quads can be the starting point, inlines are not much trouble. Spreed pointed it out best that there are subtle nuances between the two. If you can skate well on one, you can skate well on the other with minor adjustments. I've been inline first my whole life and need about five minutes on ice before I can get into a groove with the skating. What's funny is I feel like on ice I don't have enough around the toe to dig in and push, to each their own style I guess. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the_game 452 Report post Posted January 16, 2008 A lot of ice players make the transition from ice to roller and vice versa with no problems. You may feel a little different at first going from one to another, but it usually doesn't take that long to adjust.And if you are that concerned with Roller messing with your stride, get a set of the Sprung Chassis. From all of the accounts I have read the Sprung's are the closest to feeling like you are on ice. And Sdcopp, you were thinking of the Mullen brothers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sdcopp 1 Report post Posted January 16, 2008 thank you, I knew someone would know it. Sprungs are going to be the closest to ice option, and the newer model A6 is a solid choice. is this where I start complaining that ice and Sprungs are ruining my inline stride?!? :lol: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
strosedefence34 175 Report post Posted January 16, 2008 the only problem I have is stopping. Since you stop two different ways. Sometimes I pull an ice hockey stop on inlines and slide out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sdcopp 1 Report post Posted January 16, 2008 the stopping is also an adjustment. I've seen "ice" stops on Sportcourt, but on any sort of sealed wood or roll-on surface it's nearly impossible because of how the wheels and those floors work together. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aussie Joe 0 Report post Posted January 16, 2008 the only problem I have is stopping. Since you stop two different ways. Sometimes I pull an ice hockey stop on inlines and slide out.I pull an ice stop by accident sometimes on Sportcourt and almost do a forward flip! Aside from my butt hurting ALLOT its really embarresing.The best adivice is when going from one to the other just get out in the warm up and practice your turns, stops, cuts and lastly shots before anything else. This gets your feet to "feel" the surface and contact method (steel or urethane) better. It also means that by the time the game actually starts it will all just be instinct. One final thing, because I play more ice then inline these days whenever I drive to the rink I always remind myself how to stop on inlines again, "swish the hips and don't dig in the toes dumbass!" ;) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thefelixculpa 0 Report post Posted January 16, 2008 I've never ice skated before outside of open skates where you just go in circles with the kiddies, but for some reason, while my inline stop is like how you would stop on ice, I am unable to mimic it on ice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
N!! 0 Report post Posted January 17, 2008 I played about 10 years of roller hockey and didn't have any transition problems.As far as doing a standard ice stop on any roller court, it'll primarily depend on how soft your wheels are. Sliding used to be a big problem since I needed hard wheels to compensate for a lack of skating strength. When I got much stronger (as football will do to you), I switched to soft wheels and the difference was immense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DamnLocust 0 Report post Posted January 17, 2008 One thing that will be a factor in your transition is the type of inline skates you use as opposed to your ice skates. Try to get the same branded skates as your ice skates if possible. This will give you the same fit and pitch (from the boots at the very least) on both ice and roller. I've never had much problem transitioning, can definitely feel a difference in the pitch of my skates (Graf and Tuuk custom+ on ice is neutral-a bit of a forward push, whereas my tours are heel-pitched) Also, the tours don't fit my feet nearly as well as my grafs. Ice actually made me a much better roller player, but I still try to cut/stop like I'm on ice when playing roller and wind up biting it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jason 65 Report post Posted January 17, 2008 This is why I don't play roller anymore. I don't like the transition between the two. I'd rather play twice as much ice hockey than play roller at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wetwilly17 6 Report post Posted January 17, 2008 the stopping is also an adjustment. I've seen "ice" stops on Sportcourt, but on any sort of sealed wood or roll-on surface it's nearly impossible because of how the wheels and those floors work together.absolutely wrong. i played outdoors on rough but smoothed concrete, polished concrete, outdoor inline surface (the light blue coating), indoors on wooden basketball tile and sportcourt. i am able to hockey stop on all these surfaces (and so could all of experienced skaters i played with).there is a big difference in the stopping technique between ice and inline. with ice, its more of a quick turn of the ankles. in inline, you have to sort of swing your outer (more forward) leg and then tightly turn your inner. it just takes practice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cj190 0 Report post Posted January 18, 2008 I hear that. If I played tournament ice, I wouldnt play roller during that season because it takes me too long to adjust when I go from roller to ice. Ice to roller is easy for me, takes about an hour. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sdcopp 1 Report post Posted January 18, 2008 the stopping is also an adjustment. I've seen "ice" stops on Sportcourt, but on any sort of sealed wood or roll-on surface it's nearly impossible because of how the wheels and those floors work together.absolutely wrong. i played outdoors on rough but smoothed concrete, polished concrete, outdoor inline surface (the light blue coating), indoors on wooden basketball tile and sportcourt. i am able to hockey stop on all these surfaces (and so could all of experienced skaters i played with).there is a big difference in the stopping technique between ice and inline. with ice, its more of a quick turn of the ankles. in inline, you have to sort of swing your outer (more forward) leg and then tightly turn your inner. it just takes practice.I've spent 23 yrs skating on roll on/sealed wood rinks and the last 6 playing on Sportcourt. If you use a single pour wheel that actually skates well on roll-on, it's highly unlikely that anyone can do any more than a powerslide (vs a true "ice" stop) without A. toppling over or B. breaking ankles or shins and I've seen both happen more than I'd like. I won't disagree than any semi-experienced skater can compensate and make it work, but it generally turns into a powerslide as you describe above instead of the quick turn of the ankles into a stop. Using dual pour wheels on roll-on doesn't usually grip as well and may allow for ice type stopping. The last time I played any league on roll-on, Kryptonics was still a front runner in the wheel market. btw, my stop is the complete opposite from how you describe as my inner pivots first followed by my outer. It's a comfort zone on each person just like dominant leg is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wetwilly17 6 Report post Posted January 18, 2008 the stopping is also an adjustment. I've seen "ice" stops on Sportcourt, but on any sort of sealed wood or roll-on surface it's nearly impossible because of how the wheels and those floors work together.absolutely wrong. i played outdoors on rough but smoothed concrete, polished concrete, outdoor inline surface (the light blue coating), indoors on wooden basketball tile and sportcourt. i am able to hockey stop on all these surfaces (and so could all of experienced skaters i played with).there is a big difference in the stopping technique between ice and inline. with ice, its more of a quick turn of the ankles. in inline, you have to sort of swing your outer (more forward) leg and then tightly turn your inner. it just takes practice.I've spent 23 yrs skating on roll on/sealed wood rinks and the last 6 playing on Sportcourt. If you use a single pour wheel that actually skates well on roll-on, it's highly unlikely that anyone can do any more than a powerslide (vs a true "ice" stop) without A. toppling over or B. breaking ankles or shins and I've seen both happen more than I'd like. I won't disagree than any semi-experienced skater can compensate and make it work, but it generally turns into a powerslide as you describe above instead of the quick turn of the ankles into a stop. Using dual pour wheels on roll-on doesn't usually grip as well and may allow for ice type stopping. The last time I played any league on roll-on, Kryptonics was still a front runner in the wheel market. btw, my stop is the complete opposite from how you describe as my inner pivots first followed by my outer. It's a comfort zone on each person just like dominant leg is.by power slide, do you mean only using your outer skate to stop instead of both? i see a lot of beginner to intermediate skaters who only use the outer skate. i use both skates to stop on inline and never had any problems with it on any surface. i've mainly only used gripper millenium, gripper lights and dynasty wheels but i've experimented with other types too.i've never had stopping problems with any of the wheels. i used to play in a league on sport court, another league on wooden basketball tiles and outdoor drop in all at the same time. i'd use my brand new wheels (xsoft) on sport court. once they wore a little i'd use them on the wooden tiles. once they wore out, i'd use them outdoors on that blue coated concrete. so i used the same wheels on all surfaces. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JR Boucicaut 3801 Report post Posted January 18, 2008 They didn't hit ice until later like HS or college and both made it to the NHL and had good careers. GOOD careers? Eh, I can buy that argument for Brian, but Joe had certainly more than just a good career.That being said, I was just telling Lufria - I could never make the transition from roller to ice. Some people can, I just couldn't. So in 2001 I dropped roller and never played it again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sdcopp 1 Report post Posted January 18, 2008 by power slide, do you mean only using your outer skate to stop instead of both? i see a lot of beginner to intermediate skaters who only use the outer skate. i use both skates to stop on inline and never had any problems with it on any surface. i've mainly only used gripper millenium, gripper lights and dynasty wheels but i've experimented with other types too.i've never had stopping problems with any of the wheels. i used to play in a league on sport court, another league on wooden basketball tiles and outdoor drop in all at the same time. i'd use my brand new wheels (xsoft) on sport court. once they wore a little i'd use them on the wooden tiles. once they wore out, i'd use them outdoors on that blue coated concrete. so i used the same wheels on all surfaces.Yeah, the general powerslide technique is generally that. Had a guy delay league games many moons ago because he tried ice stopping and snapped his tib/fib in warmups, decent player too. Dual pour wheels don't perform on roll-on type surfaces the way they do on Spourtcourt, as you can hear the "shhhshhhshh" as people skate around on them. Throw on a decently good single pour wheel made for roll-on surfaces and it's another story, that's why I went with 78A Formula G's for my Sprungs; I'm going to skate them at the rink and not the arena I play leagues at. They didn't hit ice until later like HS or college and both made it to the NHL and had good careers. GOOD careers? Eh, I can buy that argument for Brian, but Joe had certainly more than just a good career.That being said, I was just telling Lufria - I could never make the transition from roller to ice. Some people can, I just couldn't. So in 2001 I dropped roller and never played it again.busting my chops when I couldn't even remember the names, that's just harsh JR :P I don't transition between the two real well myself, but inline is more significant around here unless you're a C.C. student, so I stuck with the wheeled puck whacking Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
moose77 0 Report post Posted January 26, 2008 can't remember the names or find when I posted it, but there were two brothers who grew up in NY and learned to skate on quads. They didn't hit ice until later like HS or college and both made it to the NHL and had good careers. If quads can be the starting point, inlines are not much trouble. That would be the Mullen brothers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites