Injurries with visor

[W.Heinle 0]

Who here has gotten hurt in the face wearing a visor? What was hurt/broken and what visor did you wear?

Thanks.

[Ahriman 1]

Oakley mod aviator - loose puck, me and another guy slapped at it, puck popped up, hit the bottom edge of my visor and bounced into my face.

Cut my lip a little and one of my front teeth was a little wiggly for a few days.

[grossie 0]

Saw a guy lose both front teeth (cracked in the middle of them) this past week wearing a visor in a men's league. He was a kid in his 20s playing against us guys in our 40s. He fancied himself a hotshot. Sorry to offend all you Crosbys and Ovechkins out there, but less than full face protection is lunacy.

[HattrickSwayze 3]

Lots of people play with visors in the league I play in. I've only seen two people get hit up high. One guy caught the buttend of the goalies stick when he slid into the net after a shot, but didn't lose any teeth. I think he just had a bloody lip. Another guy had a puck ramp up his stick and get him in the mouth. Just a bloody lip for him too. My friend plays with a visor and hasn't been hit high in close to the 40 games we've played. I wear a cage and I've been caught up high quite a few times. Every time I consider switching to a visor, an errant stick nearly takes my head off. Some people just seem to be luckier than others when it comes to getting caught up high.

[SirJW 207]

I have seen two guys get cross checked and land face first, and they both broke. One got cut on the cheek.

[Ahriman 1]

Saw a guy lose both front teeth (cracked in the middle of them) this past week wearing a visor in a men's league. He was a kid in his 20s playing against us guys in our 40s. He fancied himself a hotshot. Sorry to offend all you Crosbys and Ovechkins out there, but less than full face protection is lunacy.

....Because all those old angry men hate fast young confident players and they deserve a thousand dollar dentist bill at a time in their life when they probably have shit for insurance?

Sorry I just dont follow the logic you're using to get to a statement I'd mostly agree with. First off for the most part, I only see the 40+ crowd wearing visors wear as all the young kids are wearing a full cage so all the crosbys out there probably are out numbered by aging fat guys too set in their ways to put on a full cage. Next, when I'm skating with the guys at my store and we've all played good quality HS hockey, juniors, and even some college for friendly pick up, without shoulder pads, no one is gonna take a stick in the face, visors are just fine there. In the men's league with jackass middle aged men who've punched me in the face for poke checking them, I'll wear my cage and laugh at them as they head to the box.

Honestly I really don't want to pick an argument with you, but I've seen far too many 40+ assholes chop down me or the kid who just turned 21 out of frustration and anger, it's the old people creating injuries (visor related or otherwise), not us.

[Too Old 1]

Saw a guy lose both front teeth (cracked in the middle of them) this past week wearing a visor in a men's league. He was a kid in his 20s playing against us guys in our 40s. He fancied himself a hotshot. Sorry to offend all you Crosbys and Ovechkins out there, but less than full face protection is lunacy.

....Because all those old angry men hate fast young confident players and they deserve a thousand dollar dentist bill at a time in their life when they probably have shit for insurance?

Sorry I just dont follow the logic you're using to get to a statement I'd mostly agree with. First off for the most part, I only see the 40+ crowd wearing visors wear as all the young kids are wearing a full cage so all the crosbys out there probably are out numbered by aging fat guys too set in their ways to put on a full cage. Next, when I'm skating with the guys at my store and we've all played good quality HS hockey, juniors, and even some college for friendly pick up, without shoulder pads, no one is gonna take a stick in the face, visors are just fine there. In the men's league with jackass middle aged men who've punched me in the face for poke checking them, I'll wear my cage and laugh at them as they head to the box.

Honestly I really don't want to pick an argument with you, but I've seen far too many 40+ assholes chop down me or the kid who just turned 21 out of frustration and anger, it's the old people creating injuries (visor related or otherwise), not us.

I don't think he stated that he or someone intentionally injured the guy. Rather he seemed to get at the fact that often it's younger players that ditch the cage or cage/visor as soon as they can. And sometimes suffer for it. Many of us older (and wiser) guys value our teeth and would rather look "less cool" with a cage or visor/cage setup than visit the dentist after something that can happen so fast you can't react to it.

[Larry54 243]

Saw a guy lose both front teeth (cracked in the middle of them) this past week wearing a visor in a men's league. He was a kid in his 20s playing against us guys in our 40s. He fancied himself a hotshot. Sorry to offend all you Crosbys and Ovechkins out there, but less than full face protection is lunacy.

....Because all those old angry men hate fast young confident players and they deserve a thousand dollar dentist bill at a time in their life when they probably have shit for insurance?

Sorry I just dont follow the logic you're using to get to a statement I'd mostly agree with. First off for the most part, I only see the 40+ crowd wearing visors wear as all the young kids are wearing a full cage so all the crosbys out there probably are out numbered by aging fat guys too set in their ways to put on a full cage. Next, when I'm skating with the guys at my store and we've all played good quality HS hockey, juniors, and even some college for friendly pick up, without shoulder pads, no one is gonna take a stick in the face, visors are just fine there. In the men's league with jackass middle aged men who've punched me in the face for poke checking them, I'll wear my cage and laugh at them as they head to the box.

Honestly I really don't want to pick an argument with you, but I've seen far too many 40+ assholes chop down me or the kid who just turned 21 out of frustration and anger, it's the old people creating injuries (visor related or otherwise), not us.

I don't think he stated that he or someone intentionally injured the guy. Rather he seemed to get at the fact that often it's younger players that ditch the cage or cage/visor as soon as they can. And sometimes suffer for it. Many of us older (and wiser) guys value our teeth and would rather look "less cool" with a cage or visor/cage setup than visit the dentist after something that can happen so fast you can't react to it.

Exactly! I used to wear a half-shield when I was younger. I've grown older and wiser and wear a cage now. Besides, my dental insurance doesn't cover sport-related accidents and I doubt that many do. And I'm not young enough to have my parents foot the bill. :lol:

To get back on topic, I broke a front tooth from the butt-end stick of a stick when I had a half-shield. The kid that I was following happened to be younger than me but I don't blame all of today's youth for that incident.

[HattrickSwayze 3]

The thing that would really bother me about losing my front teeth is A) the cost even with insurance and B) the time I have to miss my front teeth while the dentist sorts things out and makes my new shiny teeth.

[james12lucy 0]

I was wearing an Itech HLC way back and lost half of my front tooth from an arrent highstick. Once I was hit in the visor with a skate blade when two of us lost our footing racing for a loose puck. Since I have switched to the Itech HS22, which is smaller thn the HLC; I've been lucky and only suffered stitches and no broken teeth. I gut cut for 7 under my right eye from a deliberate high stick with the HS22. I have been hit in the visor several times though, and have been very lucky. Saying that the luck will now be gone...

[Larry54 243]

Recently, I got hit by a high stick really hard on the cage near the mouth. My jaw was sore for a few days, but I shudder to think of what damage I would have suffered with a half-shield!

[Ital79 0]

Back in college after the team was cut, I played pickup/house league and went cage-less and I caught a stick just above my left eye that cut me really good. I was a bloody mess and 7 stitches later, I bought a Itech RBE1 (which I had to mod my Jofa 390 to fit).

Fast forward a couple months;

I have a tendency to play the body and there was an older guy (late 30's - early 40's) who thought he was holier than thou that would always try some hot-shit move with his head down. Well, I would stand him up or rub him out on the boards. No elbows, x-checks, or even dropping my shoulder. I never even knocked him down...just took him off the puck as any d-man would do.

Well, he obviously had enough and was frustrated. According to the guys on my bench; this savage took a baseball-bat swing at my head and caught me on the bottom of my chin...ripping what felt like 1/2 my face off. I bet he thought I was the 'hot shot' and thought he'd teach me a lesson.

After I came to, I was too delirious to really know which way was up, let alone where I was. I was never able to complete a police report/press charges b/c I didn't know who did it & the rink was inept at keeping records (very disorganized) of who is on what team.

All-in-all, I had a night in the hospital (concussion) and a crappy stitch job that still bothers me 10 years later.

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Looking back now, I should have worn a full cage and mauled that piece of shit everytime he crossed the blueline. I also wished one of the idiots I shared a locker-room with had the sense to call the police and get that guy behind bars. Being on the ice does not give people liberty to do whatever the hell they want...ask Marty McSorley...he was charged/convicted of a similar incident.

Better safe than sorry.

Shit happens and there are no shortage of assholes in this world. Teeth can be replaced with implants, jaws can be wired shut to heal, and torn flesh can be stitched up - but what about an eye? What's to stop some guy who hates his wife/job taking his frustration out on your face? And with skill discrepancies on the ice; what's to stop an accident like being boarded b/c they guy can't stop well -or- someone taking slapshots a foot above the crossbar? A face will stop all of those...but I'd rather have a $20 cage to the heavy lifting. I couldn't imagine losing sight in one eye or needing reconstructive surgery to make me look human again.

[aarondevera 0]

I lowered my shoulder into a guy going full-speed up the wing. He was skating twice as fast as I was, but I probably outweighed him by 30 pounds. His cage drove my visor into my cheek pretty good. Nice little scar there now.

[lampliter87 8]

Guy on my team got into a fight while wearing his visor and it cut him up pretty badly on his cheek.

[schrempsky 0]

i broke my nose from a high stick this year wearing a itech HS22, have since moved on to a DX100, dont know if it will protect me any better though

[thehomez 0]

How are all of you guys bustin teeth with the half visor? I thought it was pretty much a given that if you wear a half visor, you also wear a mouth guard...

[saba 0]

Puck hit the goalie went into the air under cross bar, as I go to deflect the defensman swung upwards on the puck making no contact with the puck but did get a good chunk of my jaw. No stiches but heavy brusing. Itech HS22 but will not go for a cage I sweat too much and cannot mop the face fast enough after every shift

[grossie 0]

Saw a guy lose both front teeth (cracked in the middle of them) this past week wearing a visor in a men's league. He was a kid in his 20s playing against us guys in our 40s. He fancied himself a hotshot. Sorry to offend all you Crosbys and Ovechkins out there, but less than full face protection is lunacy.

....Because all those old angry men hate fast young confident players and they deserve a thousand dollar dentist bill at a time in their life when they probably have shit for insurance?

Sorry I just dont follow the logic you're using to get to a statement I'd mostly agree with. First off for the most part, I only see the 40+ crowd wearing visors wear as all the young kids are wearing a full cage so all the crosbys out there probably are out numbered by aging fat guys too set in their ways to put on a full cage. Next, when I'm skating with the guys at my store and we've all played good quality HS hockey, juniors, and even some college for friendly pick up, without shoulder pads, no one is gonna take a stick in the face, visors are just fine there. In the men's league with jackass middle aged men who've punched me in the face for poke checking them, I'll wear my cage and laugh at them as they head to the box.

Honestly I really don't want to pick an argument with you, but I've seen far too many 40+ assholes chop down me or the kid who just turned 21 out of frustration and anger, it's the old people creating injuries (visor related or otherwise), not us.

hahaha- who's the angry one? This guy lost his teeth from a deflected puck, not one of us "angry old men" hitting him with a stick. Anyone who thinks he's immune from random crap is truly an idiot, but then I too was invincible when I was young. The point is to minimize the random crap, and one way to do that is to protect your face. Injuries happen, many can't be prevented, but those that can be prevented should be.

[Larry54 243]

How are all of you guys bustin teeth with the half visor? I thought it was pretty much a given that if you wear a half visor, you also wear a mouth guard...

But it's not a given that a mouthgauard will prevent broken teeth.

[Ahriman 1]

You know, I may be defensive about it and I don't apologize for it, I need to have a good rant. I'm on the ice three times a week, for a men's league, with the rest of my shop's crew, and with a group of mostly friends who also finance a pick up ice slot drawn the majority from that men's league. Tonight with the last mentioned group, I took an old angry man's stick in my shoulder and another chopped my legs going into the boards almost losing an edge. We dont play with shoulder pads because its supposed to be friendly. Who do these people think they are and why do they not have any respect while playing.

I know I can wear a visor with the LSH crew because they dont take high shots into traffic, have respect for each other going after loose pucks and over all play a very fast paced, clean game.

I'm sick of jackass strangers or semi-familiar acquaintances playing rough hockey when it's not serious by any definition. There is no officials, no scoreboard, hell no one even keeps track of the goals, no set teams or lines either, why do they think it's acceptable to ride someone in the boards in this situation? If everyone isn't wearing a cage and full protective you should play the damn game in a way that keeps people from getting injured. If I'm chasing the man with the puck in a turn, I dont try to make him lose and edge and the puck when he's not wearing shoulder pads, even if I am. I dont take slappers into traffic even if I'm wearing a cage, even if everyone in front of me is wearing a cage because it's irresponsible on my part.

Tossing in language like "fancied himself a hotshot" does not sound to me like you had much respect for his safety and I've seen far too many 19-24 year old kids get picked on by crotchety old bastards. Hell the last league game I played, I got punched in the face because I slid my stick under his take the puck - he turned and swung at me.

Random accidents happen, sure, but a lot of them, a lot of the "sticks to the face" posts I see here seem to qualify... wouldn't happen if people played with a little more respect (dare I use the word 'professional'? or maybe "with class") for everyone out there instead of calling him the stupid kid who thought he was invincible.

[thehomez 0]

How are all of you guys bustin teeth with the half visor? I thought it was pretty much a given that if you wear a half visor, you also wear a mouth guard...

But it's not a given that a mouthgauard will prevent broken teeth.

Clearly but the risk is significantly reduced. Aside from broken teeth, it helps degrease the likelihood of dislodging a tooth...

[grossie 0]

You know, I may be defensive about it and I don't apologize for it, I need to have a good rant. I'm on the ice three times a week, for a men's league, with the rest of my shop's crew, and with a group of mostly friends who also finance a pick up ice slot drawn the majority from that men's league. Tonight with the last mentioned group, I took an old angry man's stick in my shoulder and another chopped my legs going into the boards almost losing an edge. We dont play with shoulder pads because its supposed to be friendly. Who do these people think they are and why do they not have any respect while playing.

I know I can wear a visor with the LSH crew because they dont take high shots into traffic, have respect for each other going after loose pucks and over all play a very fast paced, clean game.

I'm sick of jackass strangers or semi-familiar acquaintances playing rough hockey when it's not serious by any definition. There is no officials, no scoreboard, hell no one even keeps track of the goals, no set teams or lines either, why do they think it's acceptable to ride someone in the boards in this situation? If everyone isn't wearing a cage and full protective you should play the damn game in a way that keeps people from getting injured. If I'm chasing the man with the puck in a turn, I dont try to make him lose and edge and the puck when he's not wearing shoulder pads, even if I am. I dont take slappers into traffic even if I'm wearing a cage, even if everyone in front of me is wearing a cage because it's irresponsible on my part.

Tossing in language like "fancied himself a hotshot" does not sound to me like you had much respect for his safety and I've seen far too many 19-24 year old kids get picked on by crotchety old bastards. Hell the last league game I played, I got punched in the face because I slid my stick under his take the puck - he turned and swung at me.

Random accidents happen, sure, but a lot of them, a lot of the "sticks to the face" posts I see here seem to qualify... wouldn't happen if people played with a little more respect (dare I use the word 'professional'? or maybe "with class") for everyone out there instead of calling him the stupid kid who thought he was invincible.

OK, good rant, and I agree about not playing rough in those games. I apologize if I've ever ridden you into the boards or taken your skates out from under you while feeling bitter over your youth and my fatness. You don't know me, I think you're being a little presumptuous.

The fact is that you can't predict when a puck is going to get tipped up and find its way into your mouth or under visor and into your eye. I'm sorry if I offend you by calling the kid a "hotshot". I'm also sorry to offend anyone here when I say that it is my opinion that it's foolish not to wear full face protection while playing hockey.

[Q0808 0]

I played for the longest time after high school without wearing a cage of half shield, never got hit in the face. I ordered a NB5500 and a ITECH clear half shield. The first day wearing it, caught an accidental high stick to the face. The stick hit and slide off the shield onto my face leaving a nice little "ketchup stain" as I like to call it, from the corner of my mouth and about half way up my cheek. All in all I was happy that I finally decided to get a shield. Next investment, a mouth guard :D

[Ahriman 1]

OK, good rant, and I agree about not playing rough in those games. I apologize if I've ever ridden you into the boards or taken your skates out from under you while feeling bitter over your youth and my fatness. You don't know me, I think you're being a little presumptuous.

The fact is that you can't predict when a puck is going to get tipped up and find its way into your mouth or under visor and into your eye. I'm sorry if I offend you by calling the kid a "hotshot". I'm also sorry to offend anyone here when I say that it is my opinion that it's foolish not to wear full face protection while playing hockey.

You seem to be imagining a part of my post where I blame you for any injury or insult I've taken as part of playing hockey. And also did you miss the part where I said I wear a cage most of the time? Hell I said I agreed with you for the most part. The majority of the time when you're playing with strangers or a league game where things get heated, its not a smart idea to wear less than a cage.

I'm in no way being presumptuous, I agreed with your point just not the way you made them, because especially after getting beat on by old men who called me a "young fucker" -yes I've literally been called that- for years simply for playing with energy they didn't have anymore, it gets tiring to be called a stupid kid and it certainly seemed like you were placing the blame on his age as the root cause for his injury. I think the people who go out there in cooper helmets and nothing at all are out of their goddamn minds, but it's not because they're a dumb kid or a washed up 40 year old too set in their ways to buy a helmet that will actually protect them, it's simply because they're not wearing anything in front of their face.

I'm not taking it out on you but seriously, the attitude from anyone over 30 is really starting starting to bother me.

You win - cages are better than visors. No one is arguing with you. Really when it comes down to it, you're making a blanket, undeniable statement. I'm just saying that most injuries from not wearing a full cage could be prevented with a little forethought and greater emphases on the safety and fun of the game of everyone on the ice rather than taking a selfish attitude towards yourself. Go ahead, ask around your town or shop or anywhere else, you'll find someone who thinks that kids growing up in hockey today are more careless with their sticks because they are required to wear a full cage for so long. More respect and control can prevent a lot of injuries in hockey, and that goes well beyond sticks and pucks to the face.

Is it presumptuous to have a nuance opinion on the issue? I guess so....

[rjw059 0]

Last April I took a high stick to the mouth (no mouthguard, my dumb mistake)...shattered both front teeth and the roots. Been wearing denture for the past year and finally getting my permanent implants & crowns this week, can't wait! Not that it matters, but i was wearing an Itech Aviator shield.