Radius on my sons One95's

[mnpucker 33]

I just bought a pair of One 95 jrs for my son. He is 10, plays a lot of hockey spring summer 3 nights a week 2 hours per session. HE is 5'1" tall and weighs about 100 lbs. He also participates in other weekend invite tourneys which add more ice. Anyway I bought the same skate for myself and I struggled getting used to the LS2 length. I took them into the shop and asked them to tighten up the rocker so there was not as much blade on the ice. They did so and I liked the results.

So now with my son I do not want to waste a practice to find out that the LS2 is too long. He currently wears one70's and loves them he went up a 1/2 size to the 95's. I would like to get him over his toes a bit more, his edges and crossovers are great he has a very deep knee bend and long stride. Primarily I am trying to get him forward on his starts.

My question, What do I ask for when the LHS I bought them from asks?

I will be sharpening the skates with the 90/75 FBV. So I will ask them to leave a level flat grind after they are radiused.

[bantamseadogs13 0]

Is he a forward or defenseman?

[mnpucker 33]

He will play both but likely more Forward.

[bantamseadogs13 0]

I would suggest a 9' radius, maybe a slight forward pitch but if he already has good knee bend he may just needs to practice his toe starts, I know my son did, and he also has good knee bend.

[JR Boucicaut 3808]

Is he a forward or defenseman?

Worst question to ask.

Sorry, balance the skate to the skater, not to the position he plays.

[bantamseadogs13 0]

I only ask that because my son is defense and his backwards skating suffered with a 9' radius, less stability than the 11' radius he has now, and he plays Bantam AAA and is very good skater. And I also went to a neutral radius because he was catching his heels sometimes backwards and took more effort to "lift" his heels on each push.

[oldtrainerguy28 478]

I only ask that because my son is defense and his backwards skating suffered with a 9' radius, less stability than the 11' radius he has now, and he plays Bantam AAA and is very good skater. And I also went to a neutral radius because he was catching his heels sometimes backwards and took more effort to "lift" his heels on each push.

Sorry I agree with JR what you just described makes no sense. he was on a 9 ft catching his heel? Was this on a new skate blade?

[bantamseadogs13 0]

Sorry, meant to say neutral pitch not radius. He had used a medium forward pitch and went back to neutral. With it giving him forward lean he was catching his heel skating backwards.

Summary from starting point:

9' radius medium forward pitch=had good kneebend, but backwards skating was losing some balance, too much rocker.

11' radius medium forward pitch= better backwards stabilty but started catching heel on C-cuts

7/11' combo radius neutral pitch=has never skated better going backwards and gets good forward turning

7/11' radius neutral pitch now has 100/75 FBV=stability backwards with speed both forward and backwards and good forward turning

Of course this was all trial and error with the help of Bob at No icing. He got the best specs down for my son, and he's stayed with it for 1.5 years now. He likes it, but of course it all pp, this just happens to be my son's preference.

[Rylake 0]

He's 10. He will adapt to anything that you put him on. Stick with Neutral until it becomes obvious that he needs something else.

[Chadd 916]

Sorry, meant to say neutral pitch not radius. He had used a medium forward pitch and went back to neutral. With it giving him forward lean he was catching his heel skating backwards.

Summary from starting point:

9' radius medium forward pitch=had good kneebend, but backwards skating was losing some balance, too much rocker.

11' radius medium forward pitch= better backwards stabilty but started catching heel on C-cuts

7/11' combo radius neutral pitch=has never skated better going backwards and gets good forward turning

7/11' radius neutral pitch now has 100/75 FBV=stability backwards with speed both forward and backwards and good forward turning

Of course this was all trial and error with the help of Bob at No icing. He got the best specs down for my son, and he's stayed with it for 1.5 years now. He likes it, but of course it all pp, this just happens to be my son's preference.

Another 7/11, is every no icing customer on that profile or just all of the members here?

[Chadd 916]

I just bought a pair of One 95 jrs for my son. He is 10, plays a lot of hockey spring summer 3 nights a week 2 hours per session. HE is 5'1" tall and weighs about 100 lbs. He also participates in other weekend invite tourneys which add more ice. Anyway I bought the same skate for myself and I struggled getting used to the LS2 length. I took them into the shop and asked them to tighten up the rocker so there was not as much blade on the ice. They did so and I liked the results.

So now with my son I do not want to waste a practice to find out that the LS2 is too long. He currently wears one70's and loves them he went up a 1/2 size to the 95's. I would like to get him over his toes a bit more, his edges and crossovers are great he has a very deep knee bend and long stride. Primarily I am trying to get him forward on his starts.

My question, What do I ask for when the LHS I bought them from asks?

I will be sharpening the skates with the 90/75 FBV. So I will ask them to leave a level flat grind after they are radiused.

He may find that the longer profile works better for him, never push your preferences onto him. Let him try out the profile and see what he likes or doesn't like and tweak from there.

[johnpace2 0]

Sorry, meant to say neutral pitch not radius. He had used a medium forward pitch and went back to neutral. With it giving him forward lean he was catching his heel skating backwards.

Summary from starting point:

9' radius medium forward pitch=had good kneebend, but backwards skating was losing some balance, too much rocker.

11' radius medium forward pitch= better backwards stabilty but started catching heel on C-cuts

7/11' combo radius neutral pitch=has never skated better going backwards and gets good forward turning

7/11' radius neutral pitch now has 100/75 FBV=stability backwards with speed both forward and backwards and good forward turning

Of course this was all trial and error with the help of Bob at No icing. He got the best specs down for my son, and he's stayed with it for 1.5 years now. He likes it, but of course it all pp, this just happens to be my son's preference.

Another 7/11, is every no icing customer on that profile or just all of the members here?

I think I'm on 7/13...

[jimmy 194]

Sorry, meant to say neutral pitch not radius. He had used a medium forward pitch and went back to neutral. With it giving him forward lean he was catching his heel skating backwards.

Summary from starting point:

9' radius medium forward pitch=had good kneebend, but backwards skating was losing some balance, too much rocker.

11' radius medium forward pitch= better backwards stabilty but started catching heel on C-cuts

7/11' combo radius neutral pitch=has never skated better going backwards and gets good forward turning

7/11' radius neutral pitch now has 100/75 FBV=stability backwards with speed both forward and backwards and good forward turning

Of course this was all trial and error with the help of Bob at No icing. He got the best specs down for my son, and he's stayed with it for 1.5 years now. He likes it, but of course it all pp, this just happens to be my son's preference.

Another 7/11, is every no icing customer on that profile or just all of the members here?

No-Icing does NOT do a 7/11 combo radius.

[jcsynergy 0]

7/11? crap, why do I always end up getting something different than everyone else?

[mnpucker 33]

Thanks a lot guys. I just went with 11 foot neutral I agree that I will let him figure it out. He will probably never notice anything but he did surprise me the first time he tried the FBV. Without telling him I did anything he asked where I got his skates sharpened. I asked why and he said that they felt different, I said what do you mean? "I am not really sure but they felt better"

In the past all he has cared about is the comfort of the boot. I think the 95's will be comfortable.

Thanks again as always good info.

[interpathway 9]

7/11? crap, why do I always end up getting something different than everyone else?

Considering everyone has different strides I don't think uniformity between members is quite important.

[bantamseadogs13 0]

Sorry, meant to say neutral pitch not radius. He had used a medium forward pitch and went back to neutral. With it giving him forward lean he was catching his heel skating backwards.

Summary from starting point:

9' radius medium forward pitch=had good kneebend, but backwards skating was losing some balance, too much rocker.

11' radius medium forward pitch= better backwards stabilty but started catching heel on C-cuts

7/11' combo radius neutral pitch=has never skated better going backwards and gets good forward turning

7/11' radius neutral pitch now has 100/75 FBV=stability backwards with speed both forward and backwards and good forward turning

Of course this was all trial and error with the help of Bob at No icing. He got the best specs down for my son, and he's stayed with it for 1.5 years now. He likes it, but of course it all pp, this just happens to be my son's preference.

I stand corrected, he is using a 7/12' radius, not 7/11'. Sorry jimmy.

[SolarWind 23]

7/11' combo radius neutral pitch=has never skated better going backwards and gets good forward turning

7/11' radius neutral pitch now has 100/75 FBV=stability backwards with speed both forward and backwards and good forward turning

this doesn't make any sense to me personally - 7/12 combo provides less blade on the front part of the blade (due to shorter forward radius), which in turn makes the backwards stride (in fact probably all backwards movements) more challenging since that's exactly what is used for the backwards C-cuts - front half of the blade...

I tried 7/12 combo myself & this was exactly my experience

could it be yet another case of a placebo effect? ;)

[bantamseadogs13 0]

7/11' combo radius neutral pitch=has never skated better going backwards and gets good forward turning

7/11' radius neutral pitch now has 100/75 FBV=stability backwards with speed both forward and backwards and good forward turning

this doesn't make any sense to me personally - 7/12 combo provides less blade on the front part of the blade (due to shorter forward radius), which in turn makes the backwards stride (in fact probably all backwards movements) more challenging since that's exactly what is used for the backwards C-cuts - front half of the blade...

I tried 7/12 combo myself & this was exactly my experience

could it be yet another case of a placebo effect? ;)

In all honesty I can't explain it either, except that he is 14, wearing a size 10 Mission skate, which I beleive would be about an 8.5 in bauer or CCM, so maybe the shorter blade length, smaller radius??? He is ready for the next size skate, so the next combo may go to 8/13'???

I've been told all year that he has the smoothest, longest, most powerful stride on the team, bantam AAA, both forward and backwards, by guys who have playing hockey for 35+ years and still today, so if it works I'm not going fix it. :D

[mnpucker 33]

11 Foot Neutral did the trick. He loves the one95's, after one lap he said the fbv was not sharp enough which is strange because he loved it on the 70's. I told him that he was probably not used to the boot and radius. I asked him to do some C cuts inside outside and stop a few times at speed so I could see how they sounded and so forth. All looked good. He skated a few more laps and came back and said they were great. I asked why he thought they were not sharp initially and he said that the boot was what felt different not the blade. The mind of a 10 year old.

The first time I skated on my one 95's they felt very different as well.

Thanks again guys.

[jcsynergy 0]

Inter - sorry it was sarcastic. I've been thru several steel configurations (ROH/profile radius / combo and FBV), well aware of the changes they can make, or at least the perception of change.

[automorph 0]

Is he a forward or defenseman?

Worst question to ask.

Sorry, balance the skate to the skater, not to the position he plays.

JR, how do you determine the "balance".......what info do you use?