Sherbrook SBK

[JohnnyCanuck 0]

I have a pair of sande Heatseeker Pros with all trigger fingers and the lock thumbs, and I can tell you coming from Eagle X51+ Pro Stocks that they fit similarly on the hand and with the cuff, albeit with the Sande's fitting snugger (may just be the wear and tear that has me feeling that...old Eagles vs New Sande's), but my mobility with my fingers and ability to "feel" is WAY better with the sande's.

The only weak spot is the ability to get "stingers" on the fingers due to lack of protection because of the trigger finger.

The base material on the HS Pros is also a Wicking Material, covered with Nash in areas, therefore they seem to me to dry faster, and thus are lighter through the course of an ice time.

[TBLfan 25]

Out of all these "new" small companies I have yet to see a product that made me want to buy from them. The closest was the farrel shoulder pads but the price is ridiculous for minimal protection... especially considering that Mission has a shirt that is padded, with shoulder caps for less than half the price.

Have there been some decent products? Sure, but why would the average consumer buy a product that has no reputation, has little or no reviews of the product and/or is a knockoff of another product that's being sold at the same pricepoint?

[JohnnyCanuck 0]

Sande was one that I bought based on word of mouth...

a few guys I play pickup with told me to try them out when I was looking for new gloves.

The rep met me at a coffee shop with 3 sets of gloves in two sizes each.

I paid $127 CDN and they have been outstanding performance and value for money.

These "upstarts" are just that because:

1) Don't have funding or resources to compete on shelves at retail

2) Don't have funding to be showcased in the NHL

3) Don't have a good product, Sande does however, at least in this man's humble opinion

Sande's website with testimonials from Parise and Trottier had me believe they are either scam artists or endorsed by good players...I'd imagine that it would be the latter or their asses would have been sued off long ago.

[Chadd 916]

Sande was one that I bought based on word of mouth...

a few guys I play pickup with told me to try them out when I was looking for new gloves.

The rep met me at a coffee shop with 3 sets of gloves in two sizes each.

I paid $127 CDN and they have been outstanding performance and value for money.

These "upstarts" are just that because:

1) Don't have funding or resources to compete on shelves at retail

2) Don't have funding to be showcased in the NHL

3) Don't have a good product, Sande does however, at least in this man's humble opinion

Sande's website with testimonials from Parise and Trottier had me believe they are either scam artists or endorsed by good players...I'd imagine that it would be the latter or their asses would have been sued off long ago.

Trottier will promote anything for money. If you knew more about Sande you would realize that those three points are not the reason they don't succeed at retail.

[JohnnyCanuck 0]

Fill me in then?

I would imagine and have been told that Gary Sande tried to fight it out in the trenches, but has found a nice profitable little niche where he can do custom orders for teams, and sell to individuals through his website while still holding a certain level of control over his products, profitability, and margins.

[JohnnyCanuck 0]

This is it, Sande cannot put his gloves in "The show" because the NHL charges licensing fees at a minimum of 50k USD per catagory, then you have to have reps running around taking care of the guys, which is tough to do as a small outfit like Gary has running.

Source: http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/ourgame/go...ers-feb-06.html

**Edit**:By the way, I don't work for sande or anything, I am just a huge fan of his gloves that his rep Matt put me in, and will tell anyone who will listen that they are an awesome set of mitts!

http://www.sandehockey.com/testimonials.html

[JR Boucicaut 3805]

This is it, Sande cannot put his gloves in "The show" because the NHL charges licensing fees at a minimum of 50k USD per catagory, then you have to have reps running around taking care of the guys, which is tough to do as a small outfit like Gary has running.

Source: http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/ourgame/go...ers-feb-06.html

There's a difference between won't and cannot.

As far as your second point is concerned, that's also a crock. If a rep was worth his salt, he could call on the entire league - it's been done.

[JohnnyCanuck 0]

Not to be combative, but you see in the CBC article where he says he sees him going to the NHL as an inevitability...

You are also correct in that He could easily hire 1 guy to run around the league fitting and taking care of players...IIRC Bauer has 1 main pro Rep with a supporting cast out of st Jermoe right?

[Chadd 916]

Not to be combative, but you see in the CBC article where he says he sees him going to the NHL as an inevitability...

And he had guys in the NHL that were going to switch to his gloves four years ago.

[VakarLajos 5]

Trottier will promote anything for money. If you knew more about Sande you would realize that those three points are not the reason they don't succeed at retail.

lol, ask Trots how much he liked his Daoust skates?

[chippa13 1844]

Ehh..............Eagle knockoffs are a dime a dozen.

[sarmalidu 1]

I am not sure why this is argumentative - nobody is saying that these products are so groundbreaking that everybody should be wearing Farrell or Sande gloves. I have simply brought my opinion that these small companies get short shrift despite offering good value products and have explained my perspective and personal reasons. I think that too many people just go "OMG I NEED THIS PRODUCT BECAUSE -insert big brand here- MADE IT AND IT'S SUPER EXPENSIVE AND AWESOME!" I think it would be more constructive if people were to throw in their two cents on gloves that would be competitive from a performance per dollar standpoint. Rather than say "No, the companies have just failed to execute" which isn't really germaine to the discussion. Presenting the point that the gloves aren't totally revolutionary isn't relevant either because I don't think ANY recent glove has really been revolutionary but rather an incremental improvement on something that existed before it (and in many cases models have gotten worse in my opinion).

Keep it in mind that it's not really fair to compare these gloves to Eagles and Warriors costing twice the price or more without remembering that they cost twice the price or more.

So, if you think that Farrell / Sande gloves are NOT such a great value at their ~$90 price points I would be more interested in what you DO think is a great value. The objective is to provide people with useful input. People can make up their own minds based on their own thoughts and the cumulative input of everybody. This way the topic can get back on track as well by fitting in how these SBK gloves (assuming they are on par with Sher-Wood 9950 Pros) might stack up to similar mid-high end gloves in the just under $100 category.

[Chadd 916]

So, if you think that Farrell / Sande gloves are NOT such a great value at their ~$90 price points...

The Farrells are roughly equal to the $50 gloves from most of the major manufacturers. They are horribly overpriced.

[sarmalidu 1]

I guess we will have to agree to disagree on that one. I was able to get HG300s for ~$60 shipped on sale and when I offered my brother a pair of them or bauer 4-rolls for his birthday he chose the Farrells after messing about with them a bit. I liked them pretty well also. To each his own I guess. The only cheap gloves I can think of that I would consider competitive or better would be TPS due to their heavy discounts on various R8 models at the moment. The Easton / Bauer / RBK price point gloves seem like they are pretty mediocre, and the higher priced gloves seem to offer almost nothing for the extra cost (a good example IMO is vapor XXV glove vs XXXX - don't really see what all the extra money is getting you).

Anybody else have thoughts on gloves in the "just under $100" category?

[Globalz 1]

well i was shopping for gloves for under 80$ and what i was looking at was either mid range retail and i found out in the racks of a PIAS

some Pro Stock Rbk//Mia glove's and the difference between these and the other glove's in mid range is just shocking.

[Ivan 1]

yeah they fit a bit smaller

Plyed a drop in the hem. The feel real nice, comfortable and protective

[Ivan 1]

Interesting....

http://www.ecac.org/marketing/sherbrook_release

[Dupes 1]

This is great news for SBK :)

Who ever gets to try their product will be wuite surprised.

[SirJW 207]

It just seems that this gear and the Brooklynite should be a bit cheaper than the big names if for any other reason to break in to the market. Like the Kynetics.

[Chadd 916]

This is great news for SBK :)

The fact that they paid to be the "official" goalie gear of the ECAC is great news? It doesn't mean that anyone is going to use the gear, just that teams now have the option of purchasing from them. Given the peer pressure in that age group, I wouldn't expect them to make a lot of progress right away, now matter how good the gear is.

[VakarLajos 5]

Might come down to each team's budget and how good the deal is.

[Leafsrule16 5]

Okay, all three of the gloves you named have a stretch palm with grip print. Farrell is a cheap nash.

Not only that, but all three gloves you have mentioned have a distinct, different shape and fit. Farrell is a knockoff 4-roll, Sande's a knockoff X70. Something wrong with your analogy. I understand what you're trying to say, but it's not like the gloves you are recommending are earth-shattering themselves, but an imitation of another product. Nor am I saying that the three gloves are the best, either.

I agree, there nothing dramatic and special and the farrells i own are actually kind of ugly, but for $70 gloves they are defiantly a pretty good glove. I wasn't trying to say that everyone in the nhl should wear farrells or that they were anything even overly special, i was just pointing out that i didnt think farrell deserved some of the crap they get for being a small company and copying the 4rolls. I just feel as if a lot of the smaller companies dont get a chance, however i have yet to even see sande gloves in person so i cant comment. I own farrell shoulder pads and gloves and the gloves dont have a great palm but they are pretty protective and fairly comfortable, good gloves for the money. My farrell shoulder pads seem to be pretty well made as well.

[TBLfan 25]

They better be well made for that price.

[Ivan 1]

Their higher made Pro Goalie equipment is made in Canada - good quality and cost effective. They also do preetty neat custom pro gear for less.

[troy 12]

This is great news for SBK :)

The fact that they paid to be the "official" goalie gear of the ECAC is great news? It doesn't mean that anyone is going to use the gear, just that teams now have the option of purchasing from them. Given the peer pressure in that age group, I wouldn't expect them to make a lot of progress right away, now matter how good the gear is.

Most kids I've seen in that situation do not enjoy the gear very much, nor feel pressure from teammates to wear them. Sometimes it's the coach that encourages/mandates the equipment.