Brass rivets for holders

[aal 3]

I had some holders changed, and the brass rivits came out rather odd; not flat and with the rivit posts sticking out. I may try to have another shop fix these, but in the meantime, is there any problem with just using the regular steel rivits. The brass rivits seem to be used just on the back rivits. What's the difference in their function?

[TBLfan 25]

You mean copper. They are probably fine, they don't sit flat.

Coppers are stronger.

[aal 3]

You mean copper. They are probably fine, they don't sit flat.

Coppers are stronger.

Thanks. That is what mine look like, although on one skate they stick out about twice as far as on the other skate. On new skates, I thought they were flat though.

[Ahriman 1]

yeah thats just a matter of whoever did them didnt cut them close enough to the washer. They will be fine; and yes they do hold better/tighter than the regular rivets.

[cougarscaptain87 13]

it wont make a difference. aslong as they have been hammered down (sorry i dont know the technical term) the washer will stay on the shaft of the rivet and it will hold just as strong. if it really bothers you im sure a shop could gladly trim it, then re hammer it so it doesnt stick out as long.

[Law Goalie 147]

I thought the difference was that copper rivets had better tensile strength but steel had better shear strength (ie. steel resists twisting better than copper, but copper won't pull out as easily as steel).

Does nobody get a mix anymore? I always thought the standard was steel up front and a couple of coppers in the heel.

[JR Boucicaut 3810]

That's exactly right.

G-Money - the term is flange

[Ahriman 1]

Does nobody get a mix anymore? I always thought the standard was steel up front and a couple of coppers in the heel.

They should, they come like that, they should stay like that. I had to do all coppers everywhere converting an S15 boot into a rollerblade because I couldn't fit the press down on the rivets without bending them, which the coppers didn't mind but would blow any chance of a properly set rivet.

[aarondevera 0]

I use 5 coppers for each skate - 2 heel, 2 at the back of the front tower and 1 at the inside toe. I used to have a problem with those rivets coming loose sooner than the rest, and I haven't had the problem since switching them to coppers.

[forbs02 20]

One of my players went home for the summer last year and decided to have her local guy put a heel lift on her skate. She came back in the fall and I picked up her skate to sharpen it and saw that he had used coppers for every single rivet. It looked awful. I put steel ones back in immediately leaving the coppers only on the two back and one on the front.

[theWB 2]

There was a shop around me (out of business now) that use to do all coppers on the skates they did repairs on. Every once in a while, a skate will come in with a broken holder or in need of new steel and thus begins the wonderful process of removing all fourteen coppers. Biggest pain in the ass ever!

[JR Boucicaut 3810]

All coppers = HACK

[DarkStar50 680]

When skates were made with leather insoles, eventually the leather would rot out. The only way to do a repair was with all copper rivets. Split rivets had nothing to grab on to. Daoust was the most common to have this problem. We just did a mounting job on old Daoust 301s last week. I did one boot while I had Dan do the other boot. I wanted him to feel a split rivet going into a leather insole. This is only makes sense to anyone who does riveting repair work!

[JR Boucicaut 3810]

Haha, not anymore...

[VakarLajos 5]

I had a situation last year where a guy ran into the shop and said, "I just cracked my holder! I need it fixed!" I looked a the boot and saw all copper rivets and just laughed. "How much time is left in your game?"

"five minutes"

"Yeah, you might want to start getting undressed."

I've seen it a bunch of times before and one guy told me his shop did it for "extra support" on a boot that was still in good shape. If you do split rivets correctly there isn't a problem in the first place.

[s4gobabygo 0]

if it bothers you, you can trim the excess down with diagonal cutters (then gently file the pointy edge you leave behind so you dont cut your fingers later). just dont cut them absurdly close to the washer... leave ~2mm.

[romdj 26]

looked at this thread, and I wonder, for my skates, the rivets that I have are rusting, and I don't want that to happen, mostly because the rust goes through the insole and stains the outside of the boot, I believe it'll take A LOT more time for it to affect the integrity of the rivets, is there some ways to avoid rust after changing the rivets? I can see that going with copper all the way isn't a bright idea...

[AIREAYE 248]

Remove your insoles after every skate and make sure to thoroughly wipe/dry your skates.

[Too Old 1]

Dry your skates out right after use. I pull the Superfeet insoles out and they go right in front of a fan afer a slight hit of Febreze.