Stealth in Stock in Edmonton

[thejackal 46]

The blade isn't great on the ones i've seen ($350 CDN ). I could bend them a bit with my hands while i cant with inno and TPS prepregs.

[Modo9 0]

...you have a wicked hard shot without much effort...

Translation, more flex than a 100 flex would normally have. The funny thing is the more kick you put in a stick, the less accurate it is. It is no different than golf shafts.

Chadd, your right that the more flex a stick has the harder the shot is, but it is less accurate--Which is what I discovered with the TPS whip flex. However, the Stealth 100 flex is no more whippier than my Easton Grip 100 and reg grey Easton 100 flex. I think my shot is stronger and faster due to the combination of a thinner blade-- allowing for quicker swing velocity; the walls of the shaft are slightly thinner, thus the radius of the entire shaft is ever-so-slightly thinner allowing for a tighter grip with more control--The end result being a faster, quicker, harder, more accurate shot. Just my oh-pinion B)

[Modo9 0]

However, I would be hard-pressed to say the Easton Stealth, 100 flex is a better shooting stick than the TPS XN10 regular flex. All in all, stick vs. stick, retail Stealth vs. retail XN10 I would probably still take the XN10, however I have only used the Stealth a few times... so the verdict (for me) is still pending...

[Eazy_b97 1]

There's no need for back to back post. If your tying shot velocity to stick flex of course your R flex will be better than your Stealth. Of course neither would compare to your 50 flex Synergy.

[J-Shera 0]

Stealths are 289 here, pretty good price i guess.

[kovalchuk71 212]

Of course neither would compare to your 50 flex Synergy.

nice eazy ;)...may i say dissed?

[Modo9 0]

There's no need for back to back post. If your tying shot velocity to stick flex of course your R flex will be better than your Stealth. Of course neither would compare to your 50 flex Synergy.

There was a need for back to back post. I had a completely separate and feasible explanation to a previous post after I had already posted, and didn't feel like editing.

And as for the 50 flex comment, I stoop to the infantile level of response that Hull uses a 75 flex and I am 190lbs, so how the Hull could I or anyone my size use a 50 flex. C'mon dude, stop flaunting your ignorance. No adult could or would use and semblance of a 50 flex. If you are going to engage me in a mature post response talk apples to apples; not apples to broccoli.

Bottomline, my point is: A TPS XN10 Reg flex, which is equiv to a 100 flex Stealth, there is no disputable difference in flex. And given the two sticks with equal flexes, I would probably, so far, still take the XN10. Period

[Modo9 0]

Of course neither would compare to your 50 flex Synergy.

nice eazy ;)...may i say dissed?

Can you say weak, overrated, mainstream Avatar. How's your freind Dexy? Maybe you boys should grab a bag of popcorn tonight and watch Schindler's List.

[Chadd 916]

I think my shot is stronger and faster due to the combination of a thinner blade-- allowing for quicker swing velocity; the walls of the shaft are slightly thinner, thus the radius of the entire shaft is ever-so-slightly thinner allowing for a tighter grip with more control--The end result being a faster, quicker, harder, more accurate shot.

By the way, a thinner blade makes no discernable difference in swing speeds. In reality the more weight at the end of a shaft, the higher the centrifugal force. Any reduction of blade weight in this case is for balance and not for velocity.

[Modo9 0]

With all due respect, good point Chadd. However, other laws of physics say otherwise. Centrifugal force relates to a heavier force gainng more speed within the "weight to gravity equation". In English: A heavier matter being swung will move faster than a lighter matter because the pull of gravity on a heavier object will be greater. However, this rule does not stand true and/or apply when the force moving the object (the hockey player) is heavier and stronger than the instrument (matter). Thus, the swing velocity exerted by an individual is faster using a lighter item--Example: A player can swing a one-piece composite stick faster than a heavier traditional wood stick. The faster swing speed results in a greater cataclysmic occurence upon impact with the puck, sending the puck ahead faster.

[black296tuuk 3]

A player can swing a one-piece composite stick faster than a heavier traditional wood stick.  The faster swing speed results in a greater cataclysmic occurence upon impact with the puck, sending the puck ahead faster.

Then how do you explain Al Iafrate?

[Dan_The_Man_16 0]

amazing technique.

[JR Boucicaut 3804]

I'm calling BS on this one. OPSs are proven to provide faster shot release, but you'll clock higher with a wood stick.

[kovalchuk71 212]

but you'll clock higher with a wood stick.

How do you come up with that JR?

[JR Boucicaut 3804]

An OPS has an engineered kickpoint. It flexes in a certain spot. The reason why it gets off the shot quicker is because tthe shaft bends, then whips out. There is less lag because the blade is so stiff.

A wood stick, however, flexes in both the shaft AND the blade. There is more lag, however, you'll shoot faster.

[kovalchuk71 212]

Ahhhh, thanks now I understand....but the speed isnt much different right? I mean macinnis can shoot 102 with a woodie, and federov can shoot 101 with an inno 1100 graphite...... But I see where your going

[mack 44]

That would be true if they were equals but they aren't. Who knows Fedorov's velocity with a woodie.

[JR Boucicaut 3804]

THey need to bring back the old slapshot competition - where players qualified in the team skills competition.

Modin shoots in the 100s and I believe Laraque got it up there...two woodie guys...

[Dan_The_Man_16 0]

JR, if what you are saying is true, then technically wouldn't a light shaft with lots of kick and a woody blade be the best combo for hard shots. Still the double kick you explained, but with less weight for added swing power and better kick?

[Chadd 916]

With all due respect, good point Chadd.  However, other laws of physics say otherwise.  Centrifugal force relates to a heavier force gainng more speed within the "weight to gravity equation". In English:  A heavier matter being swung will move faster than a lighter matter because the pull of gravity on a heavier object will be greater.  However, this rule does not stand true and/or apply when the force moving the object (the hockey player) is heavier and stronger than the instrument (matter).  Thus, the swing velocity exerted by an individual is faster using a lighter item--Example: A player can swing a one-piece composite stick faster than a heavier traditional wood stick.  The faster swing speed results in a greater cataclysmic occurence upon impact with the puck, sending the puck ahead faster.

We could always bring back the discussion about a heavier object having more mass and if swung at the same speed producing more force that we we had several months ago. The key factor on a shot is torque. Not swing speed or any other nonsense. I mean seriously, if it was all about swing speed everyone would swing their hockey stick like a baseball bat or golf club.

Dan:

The blade material doesn't really make a major difference.

[Eazy_b97 1]

I had a completely separate and feasible explanation to a previous post after I had already posted, and didn't feel like editing.

And as for the 50 flex comment, I stoop to the infantile level of response that Hull uses a 75 flex and I am 190lbs, so how the Hull could I or anyone my size use a 50 flex. C'mon dude, stop flaunting your ignorance. No adult could or would use and semblance of a 50 flex. If you are going to engage me in a mature post response talk apples to apples; not apples to broccoli.

Bottomline, my point is: A TPS XN10 Reg flex, which is equiv to a 100 flex Stealth, there is no disputable difference in flex. And given the two sticks with equal flexes, I would probably, so far, still take the XN10. Period

You should've edited. Laziness is not an excuse.

I know of 2 people using 50 flex sticks right now and I hope to have one within a month.

You are comparing a 90ish flex (TPS R Flex) to a tentative 100 flex on Easton’s scale. Apples to Broccoli? You’re making assumptions that your estimations on flexes match up. Also Hull is below 75 now. I have a Hull painted Z-bubble beside me right now and the reason they were dumped were the lack of flex. 62 was the last number I heard being batted around.

[Jbone 0]

THey need to bring back the old slapshot competition - where players qualified in the team skills competition.

Modin shoots in the 100s and I believe Laraque got it up there...two woodie guys...

But then we have Alexi Semonov who got it up to 105. A graphite stick user. And George is alot bigger so mayby graphite is better.

[JR Boucicaut 3804]

Technique factors into that...

[Eazy_b97 1]

I'm sure there have been tests. In order to find a true result you would need to duplicate the exact scenario's. Same puck, motion, weight swing speed, but alter sticks. I'm sure there has been testing, they do it for golf clubs and I see no reason why they wouldn't have done it with hockey sticks. I'm pretty sure they did tests on OPS and thats where they got their "10-15 kms faster" quotes. I am not sure if OPS actually increase the overall velocity of the shot, but judging by differen't players won't create a solution.