The 2009-2010 Suspension Thread

[dsjunior1388 81]

So to surmise Campbells interview:

"Burrows said Auger was out to get him. Auger said that's not true. That is all."

I got in about a minute late, but while I was listening they never discussed the actual penalty calls, whether they were questionable or anything like that. All in all Campbell made it clear that he was okay with Vancouver backing up their guy, that the NHL would back up the ref, and it was a stalemate that would essentially be left to dissolve, with pretty much no more action from the NHL. He also "cleverly" deduced that, because the conversation took place in French, it could have meant anything, somehow. All he really did was spout obvious NHL policy, and rag the conversational puck until the talk turned to the Gonchar/Clutterbuck situation.

[chippa13 1844]

I haven't seen the game story yet, who did Burrows blame for last night?

[Chadd 916]

You can't deny that Ovie has some questionable knee/knee hits. He's already hurt himself in the Gleason incident.

He skates with a wide base, he isn't throwing his leg out like a lot of people imply. Questionable, I guess. But there were a number of people here that were ready to lump him in with Ulfie or Claude.

[dsjunior1388 81]

I haven't seen the game story yet, who did Burrows blame for last night?

Auger. He says auger pulled him aside in the pregame skate (confirmed by video) and said something to the effect of Burrows had embarrassed him by diving, to which auger called tripping in a previous game. Auger was told by the NHL it was the wrong call. According to Burrows Auger told him he would get him back for it, and then auger made some controversial calls late in the third, on burrows and Henrik Sedin. Ended up giving Burrows a Game misconduct with three seconds left. Can't find the video of the Sedin call but here's the two late penalties on Burrows and his interview.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkG0fyvAeA0...feature=related

[Chadd 916]

I haven't seen the game story yet, who did Burrows blame for last night?

Auger. He says auger pulled him aside in the pregame skate (confirmed by video) and said something to the effect of Burrows had embarrassed him by diving, to which auger called tripping in a previous game. Auger was told by the NHL it was the wrong call. According to Burrows Auger told him he would get him back for it, and then auger made some controversial calls late in the third, on burrows and Henrik Sedin. Ended up giving Burrows a Game misconduct with three seconds left. Can't find the video of the Sedin call but here's the two late penalties on Burrows and his interview.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkG0fyvAeA0...feature=related

They played the Wild last night.

http://scores.espn.go.com/nhl/boxscore?gameId=300113030

[westcoastsniper 0]

You can't deny that Ovie has some questionable knee/knee hits. He's already hurt himself in the Gleason incident.

He skates with a wide base, he isn't throwing his leg out like a lot of people imply. Questionable, I guess. But there were a number of people here that were ready to lump him in with Ulfie or Claude.

I'm not a fan of OV but I'd say he's got a long ways to go before he's lumped in that category... maybe poke someone's eye out, hit nick kypreos from behind in the TV booth and knock one of his own teammates out in the dressing room.

[psh 25]

I haven't seen the game story yet, who did Burrows blame for last night?

Auger. He says auger pulled him aside in the pregame skate (confirmed by video) and said something to the effect of Burrows had embarrassed him by diving, to which auger called tripping in a previous game. Auger was told by the NHL it was the wrong call. According to Burrows Auger told him he would get him back for it, and then auger made some controversial calls late in the third, on burrows and Henrik Sedin. Ended up giving Burrows a Game misconduct with three seconds left. Can't find the video of the Sedin call but here's the two late penalties on Burrows and his interview.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkG0fyvAeA0...feature=related

They played the Wild last night.

http://scores.espn.go.com/nhl/boxscore?gameId=300113030

Burrows isn't exactly laying low, either. The refs are clearly watching him, both to his benefit and detriment. He drew two penalties and was called for two penalties last night.

[RiSeOnFiRe 0]

I understand Downie going at him originally, it's only a matter of time before Ovechkin hurts someone else or even himself by sticking his leg out constantly.

We get it, you really don't like Ovechkin. I'm sure that being a Penguins fan has nothing to do with that. He doesn't "stick his leg out", his feet are spread apart while he skates. I guess he should be leaping off the ice into people.

It has nothing to do with him being a Pens fan, AO is involved in too many incidents at this point for it to be coincidence. Malicious? Probably not. Careless? Absolutely.

hahahaha. wtf are you guys talking about? You understand Downie going after him originally?? Seriously? The only thing that video showed was that Downie is a little girl who can't take a hit without getting his panties in a bunch. Its funny that you make that comment, then choose to talk about hits other than the one in the video. It makes me wonder what kind of glasses people choose to watch hockey games in.

[camhockey16 5]

interview with colin campbell:

http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/console?c...=0&id=57159

[J22 0]

interview with colin campbell:

http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/console?c...=0&id=57159

How does the old saying go?

it is better to be silent and thought of as an idiot, than it is to speak and remove all doubt.

Colin Campbell just spoke

[J22 0]

You can't deny that Ovie has some questionable knee/knee hits. He's already hurt himself in the Gleason incident.

As far as Clutterbucks comments about Gonchar...who the hell is Cal Clutterbuck? Gonchar is a respected veteran known throughout the hockey world, a cup winner, an all star, and olympian, whilst Clutterbuck is a plug who will never top 25 points in a season. If the Wild had more than 2 decent wingers he'd probably be a career AHL'er. Obviously Gonchars hit was out of anger and he let his emotions get the best of him. I've watched alot of Penguins hockey and Gonchar doesnt do stupid shit like that very often, if at all. Yeah it was a dirty hit, yeah he gave him a pop, and IMO he probably should have sat a game, but he didn't, because he's Gonchar and he's respected throughout the league and he doesnt play like that ever. Clutterbuck obviously did something that Gonchar didn't like and Gonchar got him back for it. The way I see it thats the same thing as the Matt Cooke/Duncan Keith hit from a few weeks ago when most were defending Keith for just 'getting him at the other end'.

Noones going to come after Gonchar for retribution or anything else. If someone were foolish enough to attack the heart and soul of the Penguins defense, they will find themselves being the one hearing footsteps and looking over their shoulder in any subsequent meetings against Pittsburgh.

Do you honestly believe that there's anybody in the league that fears the "footsteps" of the Pittsburgh Penguins? the only reason Gonchar didnt get "tuned" was because the only time he was back on the ice was for the powerplay and last minute of a 1 goal game.

[JohnnyCanuck 0]

interview with colin campbell:

http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/console?c...=0&id=57159

How does the old saying go?

it is better to be silent and thought of as an idiot, than it is to speak and remove all doubt.

Colin Campbell just spoke

Great post!

chippa, I see how one gets to 5k+ posts... thread crap with sarcasm that doesn't excatly do anything for the conversation(s) at hand.

The reason the Nucks lost last night is because Luongo played like crap.

[chippa13 1844]

Learn to see the humour in life, you'll live longer and enjoy it much more.

[K9 Unit 1]

Learn to see the humour in life, you'll live longer and enjoy it much more.

just don't use drugs to help you do that :P

[Fire0nIce228 1]

You can't deny that Ovie has some questionable knee/knee hits. He's already hurt himself in the Gleason incident.

As far as Clutterbucks comments about Gonchar...who the hell is Cal Clutterbuck? Gonchar is a respected veteran known throughout the hockey world, a cup winner, an all star, and olympian, whilst Clutterbuck is a plug who will never top 25 points in a season. If the Wild had more than 2 decent wingers he'd probably be a career AHL'er. Obviously Gonchars hit was out of anger and he let his emotions get the best of him. I've watched alot of Penguins hockey and Gonchar doesnt do stupid shit like that very often, if at all. Yeah it was a dirty hit, yeah he gave him a pop, and IMO he probably should have sat a game, but he didn't, because he's Gonchar and he's respected throughout the league and he doesnt play like that ever. Clutterbuck obviously did something that Gonchar didn't like and Gonchar got him back for it. The way I see it thats the same thing as the Matt Cooke/Duncan Keith hit from a few weeks ago when most were defending Keith for just 'getting him at the other end'.

Noones going to come after Gonchar for retribution or anything else. If someone were foolish enough to attack the heart and soul of the Penguins defense, they will find themselves being the one hearing footsteps and looking over their shoulder in any subsequent meetings against Pittsburgh.

Do you honestly believe that there's anybody in the league that fears the "footsteps" of the Pittsburgh Penguins? the only reason Gonchar didnt get "tuned" was because the only time he was back on the ice was for the powerplay and last minute of a 1 goal game.

I do or else I wouldnt have said it. The penguins have plenty of guys who will drop the gloves to protect the skilled players. Exactly why they brought in Laraque and now Goddard and to an extent Rupp and Cooke. Thats what I'm talking about. Take a run on one of the skilled guys you will haveto answer to one of the big boys at some point and I'm sure it keeps the opposition in line or else guys like this wouldnt have jobs. The great one had his protector and so does each team in the nhl have their big boy or when things get a little crazy. Ole Cal even said it himself that he wont be the one to "get" Gonchar, why he wont fight his own battle I have no idea. I bet Gonch could wipe the floor with Clutterbuck anyways,

Quote from Colin Campbell..

"Every 5-minute major is not a suspension or a fine. There’s gotta be a little bit of passion in the game.

"Cal Clutterbuck leads the League, or is close to leading the League, in hits. He hit Gonchar very hard into the boards prior to that — real hard. That could have been boarding. Could have been charging. It wasn’t. So Gonchar, who’s been hurt before and knocked out before and suffered a concussion; he’s on the receiving end more than he’s on the giving end — I don’t think he’s ever been on the giving end — he went in and it was a 5-minute interference penalty and he hit him with his shoulder.

"We felt the penalty was the penalty. We don’t feel [based on] past history that Gonchar deserved to be suspended. Clutterbuck came out and I thought his statement was ridiculous, that somebody’s going to ‘get this guy’. Last time I looked, Sergei Gonchar wasn’t on too many guys hit lists."

http://hockey.thelostsurfer.com/2010/01/14...on-for-gonchar/

This is basically what I said a page or two ago to a T.

[J22 0]

You can't deny that Ovie has some questionable knee/knee hits. He's already hurt himself in the Gleason incident.

As far as Clutterbucks comments about Gonchar...who the hell is Cal Clutterbuck? Gonchar is a respected veteran known throughout the hockey world, a cup winner, an all star, and olympian, whilst Clutterbuck is a plug who will never top 25 points in a season. If the Wild had more than 2 decent wingers he'd probably be a career AHL'er. Obviously Gonchars hit was out of anger and he let his emotions get the best of him. I've watched alot of Penguins hockey and Gonchar doesnt do stupid shit like that very often, if at all. Yeah it was a dirty hit, yeah he gave him a pop, and IMO he probably should have sat a game, but he didn't, because he's Gonchar and he's respected throughout the league and he doesnt play like that ever. Clutterbuck obviously did something that Gonchar didn't like and Gonchar got him back for it. The way I see it thats the same thing as the Matt Cooke/Duncan Keith hit from a few weeks ago when most were defending Keith for just 'getting him at the other end'.

Noones going to come after Gonchar for retribution or anything else. If someone were foolish enough to attack the heart and soul of the Penguins defense, they will find themselves being the one hearing footsteps and looking over their shoulder in any subsequent meetings against Pittsburgh.

Do you honestly believe that there's anybody in the league that fears the "footsteps" of the Pittsburgh Penguins? the only reason Gonchar didnt get "tuned" was because the only time he was back on the ice was for the powerplay and last minute of a 1 goal game.

I do or else I wouldnt have said it. The penguins have plenty of guys who will drop the gloves to protect the skilled players. Exactly why they brought in Laraque and now Goddard and to an extent Rupp and Cooke. Thats what I'm talking about. Take a run on one of the skilled guys you will haveto answer to one of the big boys at some point and I'm sure it keeps the opposition in line or else guys like this wouldnt have jobs. The great one had his protector and so does each team in the nhl have their big boy or when things get a little crazy. Ole Cal even said it himself that he wont be the one to "get" Gonchar, why he wont fight his own battle I have no idea. I bet Gonch could wipe the floor with Clutterbuck anyways,

Quote from Colin Campbell..

"Every 5-minute major is not a suspension or a fine. There’s gotta be a little bit of passion in the game.

"Cal Clutterbuck leads the League, or is close to leading the League, in hits. He hit Gonchar very hard into the boards prior to that — real hard. That could have been boarding. Could have been charging. It wasn’t. So Gonchar, who’s been hurt before and knocked out before and suffered a concussion; he’s on the receiving end more than he’s on the giving end — I don’t think he’s ever been on the giving end — he went in and it was a 5-minute interference penalty and he hit him with his shoulder.

"We felt the penalty was the penalty. We don’t feel [based on] past history that Gonchar deserved to be suspended. Clutterbuck came out and I thought his statement was ridiculous, that somebody’s going to ‘get this guy’. Last time I looked, Sergei Gonchar wasn’t on too many guys hit lists."

http://hockey.thelostsurfer.com/2010/01/14...on-for-gonchar/

This is basically what I said a page or two ago to a T.

If that is actually a quote from Campbell, then he is an even bigger idiot than i thought he was.

I could live with the "past history line", i wouldnt agree with it, but it would atleast be acceptible. How does the fact that Clutterbuck leads the league in hits, or the fact that he CHECKED Gonchar, or the fact that Gonchar has been injured before and even had a concussion factor at all into if he should be suspended for his hit. The worst line of all is that Gonchar hit him with his shoulder. Watch the F'n clip, his shoulder is about the only part of Gonchar's body that doesn't make contact.

[Fire0nIce228 1]

You dont seem to get it so I'm going to post this for you and check back in on this topic in a few days when someone else does something stupid and we come in here to question the decision making process of the NHL.

repost by the way

[chippa13 1844]

You can't deny that Ovie has some questionable knee/knee hits. He's already hurt himself in the Gleason incident.

As far as Clutterbucks comments about Gonchar...who the hell is Cal Clutterbuck? Gonchar is a respected veteran known throughout the hockey world, a cup winner, an all star, and olympian, whilst Clutterbuck is a plug who will never top 25 points in a season. If the Wild had more than 2 decent wingers he'd probably be a career AHL'er. Obviously Gonchars hit was out of anger and he let his emotions get the best of him. I've watched alot of Penguins hockey and Gonchar doesnt do stupid shit like that very often, if at all. Yeah it was a dirty hit, yeah he gave him a pop, and IMO he probably should have sat a game, but he didn't, because he's Gonchar and he's respected throughout the league and he doesnt play like that ever. Clutterbuck obviously did something that Gonchar didn't like and Gonchar got him back for it. The way I see it thats the same thing as the Matt Cooke/Duncan Keith hit from a few weeks ago when most were defending Keith for just 'getting him at the other end'.

Noones going to come after Gonchar for retribution or anything else. If someone were foolish enough to attack the heart and soul of the Penguins defense, they will find themselves being the one hearing footsteps and looking over their shoulder in any subsequent meetings against Pittsburgh.

Do you honestly believe that there's anybody in the league that fears the "footsteps" of the Pittsburgh Penguins? the only reason Gonchar didnt get "tuned" was because the only time he was back on the ice was for the powerplay and last minute of a 1 goal game.

I do or else I wouldnt have said it. The penguins have plenty of guys who will drop the gloves to protect the skilled players. Exactly why they brought in Laraque and now Goddard and to an extent Rupp and Cooke. Thats what I'm talking about. Take a run on one of the skilled guys you will haveto answer to one of the big boys at some point and I'm sure it keeps the opposition in line or else guys like this wouldnt have jobs. The great one had his protector and so does each team in the nhl have their big boy or when things get a little crazy. Ole Cal even said it himself that he wont be the one to "get" Gonchar, why he wont fight his own battle I have no idea. I bet Gonch could wipe the floor with Clutterbuck anyways,

Quote from Colin Campbell..

"Every 5-minute major is not a suspension or a fine. There’s gotta be a little bit of passion in the game.

"Cal Clutterbuck leads the League, or is close to leading the League, in hits. He hit Gonchar very hard into the boards prior to that — real hard. That could have been boarding. Could have been charging. It wasn’t. So Gonchar, who’s been hurt before and knocked out before and suffered a concussion; he’s on the receiving end more than he’s on the giving end — I don’t think he’s ever been on the giving end — he went in and it was a 5-minute interference penalty and he hit him with his shoulder.

"We felt the penalty was the penalty. We don’t feel [based on] past history that Gonchar deserved to be suspended. Clutterbuck came out and I thought his statement was ridiculous, that somebody’s going to ‘get this guy’. Last time I looked, Sergei Gonchar wasn’t on too many guys hit lists."

http://hockey.thelostsurfer.com/2010/01/14...on-for-gonchar/

This is basically what I said a page or two ago to a T.

If that is actually a quote from Campbell, then he is an even bigger idiot than i thought he was.

I could live with the "past history line", i wouldnt agree with it, but it would atleast be acceptible. How does the fact that Clutterbuck leads the league in hits, or the fact that he CHECKED Gonchar, or the fact that Gonchar has been injured before and even had a concussion factor at all into if he should be suspended for his hit. The worst line of all is that Gonchar hit him with his shoulder. Watch the F'n clip, his shoulder is about the only part of Gonchar's body that doesn't make contact.

Watch the clip from the corner angle. Gonchar doesn't catch him with the elbow. As for the rest, that was merely setting the background for what occurred in the game. The long and short of it, the penalty called on the ice sufficed.

[EBondo 233]

Bobby Ryan got five minutes for charging for this hit last night...thoughts?

http://kings.nhl.tv/team/console.jsp?catid=729&id=57256

[chippa13 1844]

He caught him in that dangerous distance from the boards. Not sure if he'll sit at all but those kind of hits where an opponent is already engaged with 1 player and the hitter is taking advantage. Nobody expects someone else to run out of position to level them but I guess in today's NHL you have to.

[camhockey16 5]

there were 10 seconds left in the 3rd period and bobby ryans team was losing 4 to 0 - seems like a sore loser to me - it looked like a relatively clean hit except for the distance moller was from the boards - but i would say the whole thing was definitely uncalled for.

[EBondo 233]

I would say it's definitely an unnecessary hit, but I'm not sure if it's worth more than the five he got for charging.

[Chadd 916]

If the hit were at center ice we wouldn't be discussing this. :)

Absolutely correct, but that hit easily could have resulted in a broken neck and the last thing the sport needs is a Travis Roy type of injury. I think he should get a game or two given the score, time of game and location of the hit.

[Fire0nIce228 1]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqNPG4EaN6w

yes, no, maybe so?

[adam14 182]

i'd say 2 games.