The 2009-2010 Suspension Thread

[RadioGaGa 162]

Mike Green got hammered (legally) tonight and later in the shift came across the ice and destroyed another guy (can't remember who) with an elbow high to the jaw. Easily suspendable.

He could have easily cleaned the guys clock keeping his shoulder in, although he might still have gotten called for charging, but I don't understand the need to do it with an elbow.

All he got was 2:00, Karma's a bitch though...later in the game he went knee on knee with a guy and had to leave the game. I saw the kneed briefly between periods of the TSN game tonight. Didn't really look like a purposeful knee hit. Just one of the bad luck deals on an otherwise good hit.

Hell of a night for Green...all bad!

[Balzinsker 0]

After everything that happened with Cormier you have to think most players would be trying to avoid something like that. But no, Green's elbow was disgusting, make an example of him. Maybe then the players will start to understand that they can't run around doing stuff like that. Whatever happened to taking a guys number and return the favor later on with a legal hit. When did it become more manly to resort to cheap shots in order to exact revenge, I thought being a man meant being able to take a hit and not have a tantrum because of it.

[CapsFan 5]

I didn't see his hit on whomever, but the "knee on knee" hit didn't look illegal at all against him. I hope he sat out the rest of the game for precautionary reasons and not because he's legitimately injured.

[RiSeOnFiRe 0]

My favorite part in the Green Knee-on-Knee is the similarity between that play and the Ovechkin/Gonchar one. So many people were up in arms about that one, calling OV a dirty player, but no one has said shit about Kulikov.

[vek 0]

My favorite part in the Green Knee-on-Knee is the similarity between that play and the Ovechkin/Gonchar one. So many people were up in arms about that one, calling OV a dirty player, but no one has said shit about Kulikov.

That's because the two examples are completely incomparable, in both mechanics and intent.

[RiSeOnFiRe 0]

A big hit that ends up knee on knee with one player trying to avoid the hit? Sounds a lot like it to me.

[RadioGaGa 162]

3 Games for Green: http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=308187

[vek 0]

3 Games for Green: http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=308187

That's the first suspension+duration that i've agreed with all season.

What an amazing coincidence that it wasn't Colin Campbell who made the decision.

[Chadd 916]

My favorite part in the Green Knee-on-Knee is the similarity between that play and the Ovechkin/Gonchar one. So many people were up in arms about that one, calling OV a dirty player, but no one has said shit about Kulikov.

That's because the two examples are completely incomparable, in both mechanics and intent.

There was nothing in the other situation that showed intent either but that didn't matter.

[jsykes 35]

3 Games for Green: http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=308187

That's the first suspension+duration that i've agreed with all season.

What an amazing coincidence that it wasn't Colin Campbell who made the decision.

Really? You honestly agree that Greens hit deserved a suspension when Gonchar's hit on Clutterbuck didnt get anything?

I'd say Gonchar's was quite a bit more intentional and deserved a suspension more than Green's did.

I'm a Caps fan, but not a fan of Greens so I'm not just being a fanboy as I think we play just fine without him. However, what's fair is fair and I think things are getting a little out of hand after all the fear of headshots these days. While Cormiers shot was indeed dirty and he got what he deserved, the elbows like Green did have been going on for years and is hardly the intentional and dirty play that deserved a suspension imo.

[n3ss 0]

i'm a caps fan (no problem with mike green) and i agree with the suspension however i'd be happier with a 2 game suspension :D

[KingPest19 0]

3 Games for Green: http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=308187

That's the first suspension+duration that i've agreed with all season.

What an amazing coincidence that it wasn't Colin Campbell who made the decision.

Really? You honestly agree that Greens hit deserved a suspension when Gonchar's hit on Clutterbuck didnt get anything?

I'd say Gonchar's was quite a bit more intentional and deserved a suspension more than Green's did.

I'm a Caps fan, but not a fan of Greens so I'm not just being a fanboy as I think we play just fine without him. However, what's fair is fair and I think things are getting a little out of hand after all the fear of headshots these days. While Cormiers shot was indeed dirty and he got what he deserved, the elbows like Green did have been going on for years and is hardly the intentional and dirty play that deserved a suspension imo.

Green had his elbow up for a few seconds before he hit Frolik. Dont see how thats less intentional than Gonchar.

I cant recall the last time I saw someone lead with the elbow like that and not get suspeneded.

[Chadd 916]

Seems like the best place for this:

http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Columnists/Steve...1/12699256.html

Six-out-of-10 Canadians think those guilty of hits to the head should be punished with longer or even life-time suspensions for repeat offenders while 20% of Canadians go as far to say violent hits to the head should result in criminal charges.

[Law Goalie 147]

I still say the league (not the teams) should adopt an extremely aggressive policy of diagnosis, monitoring, and treatment for those who have suffered head-injuries, claiming it as a direct response to the CFL/NFL brain-damage cases that have been documented, and the hockey ones beginning to surface, and use that information to keep the guys who deliver the head-shots out of action for *at least* as long as the guys they injure.

All due avenues of appeal, of course, and a vicious hit that happens not to result in immediate injury should still receive a long initial suspension, but the moment if becomes clear that Player X is out because of a head injury, within a certain viable period, Player Y goes back on the suspension list.

Watch how fast that takes headshots out of the game. And with that level of oversight, you won't get some fourth-liner taking money under the table to say "Phew I'm dizzy" for a few months after he gets hit by an elite player.

[RadioGaGa 162]

Another CHL Head Shot suspension. Okay...this HAS to stop!

http://tsn.ca/chl/story/?id=308943

[Chadd 916]

Next up: Jeff Carter

Looked a lot like the Richards play earlier this season.

[Half 2]

Next up: Jeff Carter

Looked a lot like the Richards play earlier this season.

A "legal" hit according to the rules. Poor kid already put the puck in the net.

[Chadd 916]

A "legal" hit according to the rules. Poor kid already put the puck in the net.

There's nothing justifiable about any hit that takes place after the puck is in the back of the net. Unfortunately, that is what the NHL has allowed to become acceptable. Just like Richards he came in not caring about the puck or making a hockey play and looked to simply do as much damage as possible.

[RiSeOnFiRe 0]

There's nothing justifiable about any hit that takes place after the puck is in the back of the net. Unfortunately, that is what the NHL has allowed to become acceptable. Just like Richards he came in not caring about the puck or making a hockey play and looked to simply do as much damage as possible.

When you leave a guy knocked out on the ice, 99% of the time its a dirty hit. There's almost no way of it being a 'hockey play' unless theres an accident. Also, isnt check short for bodycheck? Richards and Carter caught their victims clean in the head.

If there is one play i hate just as much as headshots, its the running of goalies. Kunitz ran over Theo the other night and someone is going to get seriously hurt as a result. Those types of penalties should start resulting in a suspension as well.

[Half 2]

There's nothing justifiable about any hit that takes place after the puck is in the back of the net. Unfortunately, that is what the NHL has allowed to become acceptable. Just like Richards he came in not caring about the puck or making a hockey play and looked to simply do as much damage as possible.

I agree that both his and Richards hits were dirty as hell. Just pointing out that both were "legal" hits and therefore no suspension is likely, despite it being deserved. He came in looking to take his head off and nearly succeeded. No reason to hit the kid there and definitely no reason to extend the elbow.

[Chadd 916]

I agree that both his and Richards hits were dirty as hell. Just pointing out that both were "legal" hits and therefore no suspension is likely, despite it being deserved. He came in looking to take his head off and nearly succeeded. No reason to hit the kid there and definitely no reason to extend the elbow.

I don't know, this seems to fit the situation pretty well:

A match penalty shall be imposed on any player or goalkeeper who deliberately attempts to injure an opponent in any manner.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=26304

Trying to hit a guy in the head is a pretty good indication that a player is deliberately attempting to injure someone.

[LkptTiger 1]

There's nothing justifiable about any hit that takes place after the puck is in the back of the net. Unfortunately, that is what the NHL has allowed to become acceptable. Just like Richards he came in not caring about the puck or making a hockey play and looked to simply do as much damage as possible.

He was set to throw the hit even before Salmela was shooting and made contact almost immediately after the release. Carter is doing his job in 1) eliminating Salmela from contention of any sort of rebound (had there been one) and 2) making sure that Salmela - and the rest of the Devils - become accutely aware that there is a risk of danger if he/they want to handle the puck in Philly's zone. He sent a message and set a tone with what was, in my opinion, a legal hit.

As a Devils fan, I certainly didn't enjoy seeing Anssi get popped like that...but that's a price you have to be willing to pay if you want to score goals in that area - ESPECIALLY if you want to cut to open ice after you've been forced outside and held-up long enough to give a backchecking forward a crack at you. Personally, I've been on both sides of that type of hit...and, as the "hitee", usually found it difficult to be too upset with a guy for burying me when I was trying to carry the puck into that area of the ice - before or after I got rid of the puck.

[IniNew 53]

As a Devils fan, I certainly didn't enjoy seeing Anssi get popped like that...but that's a price you have to be willing to pay if you want to score goals in that area - ESPECIALLY if you want to cut to open ice after you've been forced outside and held-up long enough to give a backchecking forward a crack at you. Personally, I've been on both sides of that type of hit...and, as the "hitee", usually found it difficult to be too upset with a guy for burying me when I was trying to carry the puck into that area of the ice - before or after I got rid of the puck.

Someones career or god forbid life is a fair price to pay because someone on the Flyers wanted to "send a message"

Head shots are head shots, this stuff needs to be stopped.

[Chadd 916]

He was set to throw the hit even before Salmela was shooting and made contact almost immediately after the release. Carter is doing his job in 1) eliminating Salmela from contention of any sort of rebound (had there been one) and 2) making sure that Salmela - and the rest of the Devils - become accutely aware that there is a risk of danger if he/they want to handle the puck in Philly's zone. He sent a message and set a tone with what was, in my opinion, a legal hit.

As a Devils fan, I certainly didn't enjoy seeing Anssi get popped like that...but that's a price you have to be willing to pay if you want to score goals in that area - ESPECIALLY if you want to cut to open ice after you've been forced outside and held-up long enough to give a backchecking forward a crack at you. Personally, I've been on both sides of that type of hit...and, as the "hitee", usually found it difficult to be too upset with a guy for burying me when I was trying to carry the puck into that area of the ice - before or after I got rid of the puck.

I have no issue with a hit in that situation, just think that the headhunting is unacceptable.

[RadioGaGa 162]

That could easily be a 10-15 gamer....I bet he gets 3.