Attempt to injure in mens league

[chippa13 1844]

Leaning on a guy is fine, using your body is ok, bumping is not.

[chk hrd 164]

big difference between incidental contact during regular play and going out to run someone. If you are playing full contact then you know that you can get ran any time. When its a no contact league and someone drills you because you stole the puck or screened thier goalie it's a problem about ready to happen.

Grown men should know how to play and how to act regardless of the pads

oh absolutely, I completely agree on running on people. Ive never gone out there looking to put someone down. The way I play is gritty but I never play hard on someone of a lower skill level. I'm not even a good hockey player. I can skate ok, pass ok, horrible hands, and no real shot but I have passion and play 110% ever shift. If the puck goes down into the corner, I'll use my bodyweight on someone... just because you beat me to the puck doesnt mean you get a free pass. There are difference between this normal bumping and intent to injur or just being a jackass.

and sometimes this is where the problem starts. Some guys (maybe not you) way overestimate thier abilities; you beat them to the puck and they don't have enough control to stop short and end up boarding, checking, open ice hitting, etc. it is an accident but it can still piss you off. Same goes for sticks, because of inexperience some guys have a habit of flailing thier sticks around. I played against one guy who spun around with his stick straight out like he was a helicopter. He missed me and I gave him a chat, he missed another guy on my team who wasn't nearly as pleasant.

If I know the other player is a newbie then I'll explain to them the problem. if it some JO who thinks he is the next superstar and has a history of it I will give him a warning and take his number.

[RecLeagueHero 0]

That's why I tend to think at lower levels full face protection should be mandatory. I had a cheap Bauer helmet with a cage just for reffing low level games, way too many sticks flying about. This is one of those areas were leagues really need to step up, and especially with players new to the sport, explain what is and isn't allowed. Too many guys go out when they're brand new and expect to play bump and grind hockey; while another set of brand new players expect to go out and have absolutely zero contact. Complete non-contact is just not realistic in hockey, but beginner league also doesn't need to have tons of pushing and bumping.

Of course, there's also the fact when you're dealing with large numbers of strangers it's difficult to come to a meeting of the minds about an acceptable level of contact. Obviously, some guys start playing as adults to live out their NHL fanatsy in the beer leagues, and some to get some exercise and have a good time. Impossible to find middle ground: no; but the two extremes are always going to have some problems.

[jcp2 2]

Since I play in a lower level league with regular teams, I kind of know who is big on the bumping and who isn't on the other side. There are always a couple of guys on each team, including mine, that take things a bit too far. They tend to be either larger lesser skilled players or smaller skilled players. If I'm matched up against these guys, I don't go into corners as hard as I could if the race to the puck is going to be close to avoid receiving a disproportionate "bump" that usually is a high crosscheck to my back. I'd rather just stick check the puck away from them off the boards, which is not super hard at my level.

On the other hand, I really enjoy playing against people who are skilled but fair minded. I can try my hardest against them without worrying about a stick to the head when I'm looking the other way. Generally, if I'm beat by these guys (and girls), no hook or slash to slow them down from me, they've clearly earned the right to pass.

[Louie 28]

We played against this team the other night and all they did was use the body. We're a pretty finesse team, but I was coming around their net as the puck was going up ice and one of their defenceman was standing there with a pick. We both go down and I was like what the hell, obviously there is contact in hockey on any level, but this was sort of crazy. The guy was like just trying to get in your way, I was like the puck wasn't even close, that's interferance, we both went two for roughing.

Mid-way through the second, I'm in front digging for a loose puck, same guy has his stick on the goal post and the goalie is down with his skate on the post. The puck is still clearly loose, the guy was like this is good enough and I didn't stop there was no whistle. He ends up cross-checking me hard in the back and I go down with my left shoulder going into the post, on my way down I grabbed his cage and twisted his helmet, I was so furious. Then he's in the box telling me to meet him in the parking lot, I just shook my head and said it's hokcey it stays on the ice and the guy is just going beligerent.

Rest of the game they did nothing but check us and they refs called nothing, it was really a shame someone could have gotten hurt. We got one make-up call, as I was knocked down in the third in front of the net I'm laying on the ice and the ref goes I have black for interferance, the other ref stopped him and they reversed it.

Basically, intent to injure and everything else boils down to the refs taking control of the game, most refs make some good money, do your job.

[chippa13 1844]

Whacking at the goalie's leg, even with a loose puck, is a good way to get yourself buried in men's league.

[Too Old 1]

There was a jackass on the team we played early this week. I usually play wing and this goon was a dman on their team. In the first period he tripped me right in front of a ref who did nothing. I asked the ref if he needed me to help chip in for glasses when I got up. Same guy grabbed my stick and spun me around in the 2nd or 3rd and then pushed me down again and no call was made. Late in the 3rd when he went for me again I gave him an elbow in the face first and he shoved back but they didn't see any of this. Next shift we were both out he cross checked me as the play moved out of their zone, and that time the ref called it. Of course he just couldn't understand why he was whistled for it. There always seems to be at least one douchebag on each team who thinks it's okay to be the goon.

[ddbowdoin 0]

man after reading all of these I am lucky! I never see anything like this. I am gritty player, as mentioned before, but always keep in a normal every day hockey contact... never hitting or pinching anyone, just rubbing in front of the net or anything. I always try and keep my stick around the ice, I have also played with people who act like theyre playing lacrosse. I have small oakley shield and have had some close calls.

[maxamillion 3]

Tonight at drop in there was a decent douchebag moment. I picked up a loose puck along the half boards in my d zone, and as I was skating by a guy that was racing to the puck, he took a decent chop at my feet. I try to play with these guys every week, and there is a decent amount of bumping, grinding, and some hooking, but I'm not cool with slashing. so anyway, He catches me right in the wrong spot and it hurt like a bitch, so as the play came back the other way, we're going one on one, and I take a little chop at the blades of his skates, I don't even hit the boot or anthing. maybe a little toe cap if anything. He blasts a shot, and as I go for the rebound along the boards, I hear the skates coming up from behind me. I barely got 90 degrees to the boards and he blasts right into me. Had I not turned I would have been fucked. He knocked me down and starts taking pot shots at me. He keeps yapping that he was just going for the puck, but when it's going that quick you can't tell. it doesn't justify him trying to take me out like that.

[BlackIce 1]

I've noticed that the U.S. posters call their rec leagues "no check". While in the greater Toronto Area(Can't speak for the rest of Canada) rec leagues are "no contact". Personally, I believe that the "no contact" should be changed to "no checking". That would make a hell of a lot more sense.

[RecLeagueHero 0]

I've noticed that the U.S. posters call their rec leagues "no check". While in the greater Toronto Area(Can't speak for the rest of Canada) rec leagues are "no contact". Personally, I believe that the "no contact" should be changed to "no checking". That would make a hell of a lot more sense.

In most of the US "non-contact" and "no check" are used interchangably to describe adult hockey. I think you're correct though, no check is much clearer that while checking is not allowed, it is still a contact sport. The term "non-contact" does leave one with the impression that no physical contact is allowed.

[Law Goalie 147]

The problem is that in Toronto (and most of Canada), "non-contact" can mean anything from immediate penalties for all body-to-body contact, right up to allowing anything short of a major open-ice collision. It does scale to some extent to the skill level of the league (refs generally allow much more contact in higher level games), but most leagues are very permissive, and quite unevenly so. Most games are the classic refereeing dance of "Let them play... woops, gone too far, better take control... OK, even-up call... and now they're screaming at me..." When the university team plays its series of firm games around the city, we generally have to remind the first-years that it's not a good idea to be rubbing out senior partners along the boards, let alone running them into a stanchion or dropping them in front of the net, all of which would be let go in our regular games.

Whacking at the goalie's leg, even with a loose puck, is a good way to get yourself buried in men's league.

This is so true, and yet so wrong. That guy who gets buried invariably buries the goalie underneath him - and usually in a vulnerable position.

I really don't give a hoot if guys are whacking - unless the puck is actually inside my glove on in the palm of my blocker - but I sure as hell don't want some idiot getting dumped on top of me with my leg extended. I've had three or four incidents in the last year where I narrowly escaped having my knees blown out in this exact situation; I just managed to get my blocker up in time to push myself out of harm's way a bit and take some of the guy's weight.

[ddbowdoin 0]

The problem is that in Toronto (and most of Canada), "non-contact" can mean anything from immediate penalties for all body-to-body contact, right up to allowing anything short of a major open-ice collision. It does scale to some extent to the skill level of the league (refs generally allow much more contact in higher level games), but most leagues are very permissive, and quite unevenly so. Most games are the classic refereeing dance of "Let them play... woops, gone too far, better take control... OK, even-up call... and now they're screaming at me..." When the university team plays its series of firm games around the city, we generally have to remind the first-years that it's not a good idea to be rubbing out senior partners along the boards, let alone running them into a stanchion or dropping them in front of the net, all of which would be let go in our regular games.

Whacking at the goalie's leg, even with a loose puck, is a good way to get yourself buried in men's league.

This is so true, and yet so wrong. That guy who gets buried invariably buries the goalie underneath him - and usually in a vulnerable position.

I really don't give a hoot if guys are whacking - unless the puck is actually inside my glove on in the palm of my blocker - but I sure as hell don't want some idiot getting dumped on top of me with my leg extended. I've had three or four incidents in the last year where I narrowly escaped having my knees blown out in this exact situation; I just managed to get my blocker up in time to push myself out of harm's way a bit and take some of the guy's weight.

I'd agree... if the puck can be seen its fair game. Tied up in the glove means the plays dead for me. A lot of goals have been scored with the puck just under the pad, if they can score that way in the NHL why not in your mens league. It's not a hack or a slash at the goalie at all.