Norris Finalists

[RiSeOnFiRe 0]

Green, Doughty, and Keith.

Im a caps fan, but its gotta be Doughty. His game has NO holes.

[Fire0nIce228 1]

Gonna agree with you on that. He's a sav.

[TBLfan 25]

I don't know how anyone can argue that Doughty doesn't or shouldn't win the Norris this year.

[chippa13 1844]

It will be either Green or Keith. Whether I agree with it or not, Doughty is too far back in points and plays too much in the Pacific time zone.

[jkud 0]

Green's numbers dwarf anyone else's. Hard to vote against them. I think Doughty is the best player though, but can't vote for those numbers and justify it. That being said, Keith will win lol.

[furlanitalia 1]

Green's numbers dwarf anyone else's. Hard to vote against them. I think Doughty is the best player though, but can't vote for those numbers and justify it. That being said, Keith will win lol.

What's sad is that's probably true. Doughty should win as overall he probably the best of the bunch (although I've heard his fitness levels are terrible).

[chippa13 1844]

Green's numbers dwarf anyone else's. Hard to vote against them. I think Doughty is the best player though, but can't vote for those numbers and justify it. That being said, Keith will win lol.

This is why I think they should create a Bobby Orr/Paul Coffee type award that recognizes the top scoring defenseman, that way the Norris can go to the best overall defenseman and not just the guy with the most points.

[RiSeOnFiRe 0]

This is why I think they should create a Bobby Orr/Paul Coffee type award that recognizes the top scoring defenseman, that way the Norris can go to the best overall defenseman and not just the guy with the most points.

I like this idea. They dont have an award for the 'best forward'. They have points and goals and more often than not, mvp. Norris would be the best 2way dman and the Orr/Coffee would be the best offensive Dman.

[Martin88 0]

Should be a tight vote. I think that Doughty's light attitude on the ice might go against him. The voters want to see someone who APPEARS more focused.

[RiSeOnFiRe 0]

Should be a tight vote. I think that Doughty's light attitude on the ice might go against him. The voters want to see someone who APPEARS more focused.

Not sure what you mean by light attitude and seemingly less focused. I posted this in the Van-LA thread but i guess its relevent here too.

Some heavy words coming from the young kid.

[Balzinsker 0]

I say Doughty still wins it, he may not get as much exposure as Keith or Green do, but his excellent performance at the Olympics will make up for that. He ended up going from 7th defenseman to top pairing, so that really jumps out at people. But that said it wouldn't surprise me if the voters end going with the "Mike Green can't play defense, and I never really watched the Kings play, so I'll give it to the other guy" mentality.

[chippa13 1844]

Olympics shouldn't be considered as the award is for excellence during the regular season.

[Balzinsker 0]

Olympics shouldn't be considered as the award is for excellence during the regular season.

No they shouldn't, but good play is still good play especially in high pressure environments. I bring it up because the majority of the voters won't have watched him as much as Green or Keith, so they'll probably base their impression of him off of than more than anything else.

[chippa13 1844]

You can't base your impression on something that happened outside of the voting criteria. Norris voters shouldn't have taken into account Doughty's performance at the Olympics just like Vezina should have ignored Miller's.

[jkud 0]

I say Doughty still wins it, he may not get as much exposure as Keith or Green do, but his excellent performance at the Olympics will make up for that. He ended up going from 7th defenseman to top pairing, so that really jumps out at people. But that said it wouldn't surprise me if the voters end going with the "Mike Green can't play defense, and I never really watched the Kings play, so I'll give it to the other guy" mentality.

Yeah, I think Jagr might get a few votes for Hart, he played well in the Olympics lol!!

[furlanitalia 1]

You can't base your impression on something that happened outside of the voting criteria. Norris voters shouldn't have taken into account Doughty's performance at the Olympics just like Vezina should have ignored Miller's.

They shouldn't but whose saying they will?

Doughty isn't necessarily light focused but he definitely takes the game lightly in the sense that I don't think the pressure gets to him. They're always showing him dancing on the bench, singing, and just enjoying himself. If that doesn't effect his play then I see no harm in it. Even at the olympics in the gold medal game he was smiling, laughing, and grooving with the music. Yet still was one of the best defencemen on the ice. Having that much fun out there while still playing that good of a game should be seen as an asset in my mind.

[Martin88 0]

I just see his attitude as very unique and not how a typical defensive superstar acts. While I find it enjoyable to watch I don't know if a traditional player like Adam Foote for example would appreciate it.

[chippa13 1844]

Well, I can't stand Adam Foote so he can pound sand as far as I'm concerned.

[furlanitalia 1]

And unless Foote is on the voting committee I'm not sure what his thoughts (or that of traditional Defenseman) really matter.

[BenderHockey 127]

Might be the first time I've heard Foote thrown into a discussion for the Norris.

[JohnnyCanuck 0]

Keith.

[Chadd 916]

Olympics shouldn't be considered as the award is for excellence during the regular season.

They obviously aren't considering Keith's play this year or he wouldn't have been nominated. I'm a Hawks fan, but he doesn't deserve to be on the list.

[gxc999 7]

They obviously aren't considering Keith's play this year or he wouldn't have been nominated. I'm a Hawks fan, but he doesn't deserve to be on the list.

Didn't he start off well and then go steadily downhill after December?

[RadioGaGa 162]

They shouldn't but whose saying they will?

Doughty isn't necessarily light focused but he definitely takes the game lightly in the sense that I don't think the pressure gets to him. They're always showing him dancing on the bench, singing, and just enjoying himself. If that doesn't effect his play then I see no harm in it. Even at the olympics in the gold medal game he was smiling, laughing, and grooving with the music. Yet still was one of the best defencemen on the ice. Having that much fun out there while still playing that good of a game should be seen as an asset in my mind.

It never affected JR's play.

[Chadd 916]

Didn't he start off well and then go steadily downhill after December?

His numbers really went downhill after the Campbell injury and he was split from Seabrook. There is no way you can put him on the same level as Lidstrom, Chara, Bourque, Leetch, Chelios and other past winners. He turns the puck over way too much to be considered for the award. How he is even on the short list absolutely amazes me.