do one piece sticks get whippier with time?

[Leb_CRX 0]

I've been using ballistik sticks religiously and they've been great to me

I have 2x45 cal sticks, one in a 80 flex, and one in a 90 flex...both I can load no problems, and have no issues with the shot...each is cut down about 2 inches

I bought a s17 today...just wanted to switch it up, I got it in the 100 flex knowing that after I cut it down it'll be a 95ish (based on the marks...since easton works in an unusual way)...which I presume my 90 ballistik cut is around, if not a bit more...

I just got back from a game, and I could NOT load the stick...my slapshots were fantastic, but wristers, forget about it...I could barely get any puck lift

I never had a great shot to begin with, but cannot seem to understand why it's so much stiffer than the ballistiks...I might as well have been trying to flex a 2x4

is this stick gonna get whippier over time?

can anyone explain to me why I am having this issue? I know manufacturers rate their sticks different, but this difference seems ridiculous

any tips for me loading the stick? this is slightly frustrating

could the curve be causing this? my ballistiks have a coffee style curve, this has a Forsberg curve

[Gefiltefish 9]

S17's are known to play whippy as well...

Short answer is yes, it will whip out over time,

I think it may be the different flex profile and obviously the slightly stiffer rating. Give it time and see if it gets better..,

[the_sock 1]

Every time you flex a stick (carbon fiber) the graphite shears and slowly breaks down. The biggest effect you will find when the stick is lost all of the flex is that it doesn't rebound back as quickly and feels "sloppy" when shooting.

[adalbort 1]

I've been using ballistik sticks religiously and they've been great to me

I have 2x45 cal sticks, one in a 80 flex, and one in a 90 flex...both I can load no problems, and have no issues with the shot...each is cut down about 2 inches

I bought a s17 today...just wanted to switch it up, I got it in the 100 flex knowing that after I cut it down it'll be a 95ish

(based on the marks...since easton works in an unusual way)...which I presume my 90 ballistik cut is around, if not a bit more...

I just got back from a game, and I could NOT load the stick...my slapshots were fantastic, but wristers, forget about it...I could barely get any puck lift

I never had a great shot to begin with, but cannot seem to understand why it's so much stiffer than the ballistiks...I might as well have been trying to flex a 2x4

is this stick gonna get whippier over time?

can anyone explain to me why I am having this issue? I know manufacturers rate their sticks different, but this difference seems ridiculous

any tips for me loading the stick? this is slightly frustrating

could the curve be causing this? my ballistiks have a coffee style curve, this has a Forsberg curve

"I bought a s17 today...just wanted to switch it up, I got it in the 100 flex knowing that after I cut it down it'll be a 95ish "

How do they get whippier by cutting them? It works the other way around... The longer the shaft the whippier the stick

[team50 20]

Bingo. You just made your stick a 105 or 110 flex.

[bostonjuniorblackhawks 1]

Guy's easton are only the rated flex after 2 inches are cut off. I assume the 95 flex mark is less than 2 inches.........

[interpathway 9]

Yes, 100 flex Easton sticks are something near 90 when pulled off the shelf at full length. Knock two inches off that and you're back to your base 100 flex.

In terms of the 'sloppiness' mentioned above, my sticks always kick less and less as time goes on. When the carbon and resins are new and rigid the stick quickly returns to its shape, providing a quick strong shot. As time progresses the resin breaks down (and the sticks even begin to bow a bit) and there is a bit more delay in "returning to shape".

As sticks age slowing your shooting motion (the action of loading/releasing your stick) will keep you on pace with your equipment.

[twolinepass 0]

I noticed my s17 get whipper over time

[tareatingrat 4]

The only stick I think I ever whipped out was a One95.

Then again, I switched back to low-kickpoint sticks, and, well, maybe the One95 just feels whippier now. So, it could just be a difference in where the kickpoints are on the two sticks...

Although I believe the Ballistik sticks and the S17 should have a similar low-kickpoint.

You probably just need some time to get used to it.

[Dubbs 0]

I haven't used an S17 in about 4 years since I broke 2 of them, but I remember them feeling very whippy after only a few months of use, only stick that I ever felt that with.

[Leb_CRX 0]

cool, thanks guys, appreciate the posts

[bostonjuniorblackhawks 1]

S17 is more a mid-low than a low which may give the feeling that it's pretty whippy

[Chadd 916]

S17 is more a mid-low than a low which may give the feeling that it's pretty whippy

The first year S17s were not accurately rated for flex.

[Top Cheese 0]

TPS sticks have known to break in initially with time.

[that_guy 2]

IMO I think it could have something to do with the curve, the Coffey is easier to load I think. It being a big hook to cup the puck makes it easier to push it into the ice, load it, then fling it off than a zetterberg, at least for me. Any S17 that I ever used seem to play soft to flex rating.

[sharks25 9]

The simple answer is yes, the stick will become whippier as the shaft walls break down. But one reason that your shot loading may be suffering is the different kick-points. The curve can make it suffer, but first you may need to adjust your technique to shoot with a mid kickpoint. It may feel alittle different loading a mid and your low kick sticks, but if you practice and make some adjustments it may help.

[mug25 2]

The simple answer is yes, the stick will become whippier as the shaft walls break down. But one reason that your shot loading may be suffering is the different kick-points. The curve can make it suffer, but first you may need to adjust your technique to shoot with a mid kickpoint. It may feel alittle different loading a mid and your low kick sticks, but if you practice and make some adjustments it may help.

You pretty much hit the nail right on the head. I switched from an S17 (100 Flex) to a One100 (112 Flex) and it took 2-3 nights for me to get used to the new kick point, flex and blade. I also ADDED 2" length to the stick so that was another thing for me to get used to.

[IceBuckeye88 0]

When I used S17's, the 100 flex seemed more like an 85. Definately more of a mid kick point. Which may be different than Ballistik (I've never used one, so I really don't know). Cutting down the stick will make it stiffer.

[Sniper9 547]

did you ever think about the fact that the ballistik and s17 are completely different sticks? therefore, it will be an adjustment to get used to using the new s17? i have never used eastons elliptical technology, but i am sure it takes time to get used to the kickpoint compared to your 45 calibers.

[Leb_CRX 0]

did you ever think about the fact that the ballistik and s17 are completely different sticks? therefore, it will be an adjustment to get used to using the new s17? i have never used eastons elliptical technology, but i am sure it takes time to get used to the kickpoint compared to your 45 calibers.

ya, no doubt, I just wasn't expecting THAT big of a difference

I played with it tonight again, fired a ton of one timers during practice, and a ton of wristers...and the stick feels a LOT better...or it's me getting used to it...but still feels stiff, mentally...most likely me not feeling the actual shaft bend

def a huge adjustment over previous kick point