Stick Time Question

[tide94 0]

Have any people been carded or asked to show your I.D. before playing in adult sticktime? Anyone under 18 get away with playing in one?

[Speedz98 15]

I went to Adult open hockey as a 17 year old. I went with my dad so when he went to pay for two people, I just headed to the locker room.

[DumpN'Chase 1]

Depends on how old you look.. and whos working the counter. haha

[evor1 6]

i drove 25 minutes to an adult only stick time at sharks ice and they wouldnt let me on without id which i didnt bring with. i was 22 at the time. pissed me off so much. who gives a shit anyways if some kid is on the ice.

[raganblink 82]

Legal issues.

[Axxion89 32]

Good question, I have never been ID'ed and hope I never do because I always leave my wallet in the car. I understand the legal issues but doesn't every rink state anything that happens on ice is not their liability so why would the legal issues matter???

[Chadd 916]

Good question, I have never been ID'ed and hope I never do because I always leave my wallet in the car. I understand the legal issues but doesn't every rink state anything that happens on ice is not their liability so why would the legal issues matter???

Waivers don't hold up in court and a minor can't legally waive liability in any case.

[ggreen 0]

Wow, I've never heard of anyone getting carded to play hockey, but I can understand where the rinks are coming from. As someone said in an earlier post, I'm glad they don't card where I play as I typically leave my wallet in my truck.

[Thinkingjack 51]

Never been id' but i have seen kids under 18 show up for stick time or pickup and they either have to have the parents approve and sign for them or stay and watch. No idea why its not like i'm looking at their kid thinking bad thoughts but i guess someone might or hurt someone too, i did take a slapper a few years ago everyone was waiting for me to take it too we were taking turns and this kid jumps in ice and heads straight for the net for a puck and WHAM off his chest and goes down crying and his dad told him to shut it for being an idiot. thank god for helmets

[mhkehoe 1]

Pretty much coverage up above, but minors cannot sign a waiver and have it hold up in court. Plus, there is a certain maturity and common sense that comes with age. Even at 18 (I am 25 now), I don't think I was as considerate for other players as I am now.

Also, trick is to have more facial hair than what 90% of minors can grow.

[wrangler 157]

Waivers don't hold up in court and a minor can't legally waive liability in any case.

Effectiveness of waivers may vary by language, and by jurisdiction, except for minors.

Also, trick is to have more facial hair than what 90% of minors can grow.

That got me into bars from the age of 17.

[chippa13 1844]

i drove 25 minutes to an adult only stick time at sharks ice and they wouldnt let me on without id which i didnt bring with. i was 22 at the time. pissed me off so much. who gives a shit anyways if some kid is on the ice.

Not smart to drive without your license on you.

[Thinkingjack 51]

Effectiveness of waivers may vary by language, and by jurisdiction, except for minors.

That got me into bars from the age of 17.

Funny i had a goattee at 17 and was cruisin bars, shaved it and still didnt get carded

[gxc999 7]

Effectiveness of waivers may vary by language, and by jurisdiction, except for minors.

That got me into bars from the age of 17.

Let me give it a crack... In the US, they'll likely be thrown out in such a situation. There are very few exceptions for individuals signing them with businesses/corporations. The most important defense they'll have to typically injurious conduct will be implied assumption of the risk. That however only typically applies to bodily contact between participants of a sport where such contact is an ordinary part of the game, and will not serve to allow the business to indemnify itself from its own negligence. It also does not require anyone to sign anything. I believe, but am not sure, that Canada follows a similar rule of law on this issue. I don't know w/ any certainty because I don't practice Canadian law

[wrangler 157]

Let me give it a crack... In the US, they'll nearly all be thrown out in such a situation. There are very few exceptions for individuals signing them with businesses/corporations. The most important defense they'll have to typically injurious conduct will be implied assumption of the risk. That however only typically applies to bodily contact between participants of a sport where such contact is an ordinary part of the game, and will not serve to allow the business to indemnify itself from its own negligence. It also does not require anyone to sign anything. I believe, but am not sure, that Canada follows a very similar rule of law on this issue.

Do you do p.i.? I don't.

Funny thing, thinking about it, I don't recall studying one torts case in school, where a waiver was involved.

[gxc999 7]

Do you do p.i.? I don't.

Funny thing, thinking about it, I don't recall studying one torts case in school, where a waiver was involved.

No, no PI now. And it's funny but it nearly the same for me except I had to write a nasty motion about waivers in L.S. It's also very dependent on state law though so nobody can really be sure unless they've covered all recent cases:)

[wrangler 157]

No, no PI now. And it's funny but it nearly the same for me except I had to write a nasty motion about waivers in L.S. It's also very dependent on state law though so nobody can really be sure unless they've covered all recent cases:)

Yeah, the main reason I made the comment about jurisdiction is because I know nothing about Canadian law, and never even made an effort to keep up with this issue in other states. My same basic answers apply to a lot of questions these days -- "It depends", and "I'll check" -- since I always like to make sure I haven't missed a change, before giving advice someone will rely on.

[gxc999 7]

Yeah, the main reason I made the comment about jurisdiction is because I know nothing about Canadian law, and never even made an effort to keep up with this issue in other states. My same basic answers apply to a lot of questions these days -- "It depends", and "I'll check" -- since I always like to make sure I haven't missed a change, before giving advice someone will rely on.

Thanks for a good point, I edited my post so nobody would be confused, that I don't do/really know Canadian law. BTW, do we have any Canadian lawyers here? I'd love for them to educate us more about it...

[RussianDangler15 0]

At the rinks by me you can be of any age.

[tide94 0]

The rink i go to, has an under 18 stick time, but its only for an hour and its 10$ i just wanted to see if i could sneak into the adult session since in 2 hours for the same price.

[iceNsteel 0]

There's no legal issue here. A rink allowing adults and minors to skate together is under no greater liability than if they segregated them. It's just like a pool offering an adult swim, the appeal is purely business related for customers that don't want to be hassled by kids. There is no waiver that will let you out of something for which you are legally liable, doesn't matter if it's a minor or an adult.

From personal experience it just depends on the rink. Been to a few that made everyone from me to a 60 year old guy show photo ID to prove age. Been to more than a few were the "adults only" skates just meant they didn't let young kids skate, but nothing was done to prevent teenagers under 18 from skating.

[HolyRollie 0]

Also, trick is to have more facial hair than what 90% of minors can grow.

That got me into bars from the age of 17.

So true, I was buying cigars at 16. I've never been carded for stick time and I never had a problem going out as a minor rinks.