2011-2012 Suspension thread

[Chadd 916]

I don't think he shouldn't get his hearing, I just think it is a joke that the NHLPA asked for a deferral in order to do what they can to minimize the suspension.

I think Bettman being in the building has a lot to do with the immediate "indefinite suspension". My personal belief is that he is pissed that it happened during a game he was at and he will be pushing Shanahan to turn Torres into his next "example" case.

Meanwhile, Campbell will be lobbying for Torres to walk as it was a "hockey hit".

I've heard a rumor that they think Hossa isn't going to miss a game and they want him to play before the hearing as that would reduce any possible suspension.

[wrangler 157]

Hoss is already out for the next game.

[hockeysc23 0]

Like EBondo said, it was an automatic suspension. The only way he could have avoided it was if the league decided to rescind the match penalty, which they were under no obligation to do. Those are the rules.

Yes but they have rescinded it on a multitude of events and now they uphold it? That's what is crazy. It's not that Backstrom got a game as much as what other people do that get similar penalties that are far more egregious. Especially for someone with no prior history.

Shanny screwed up the Weber situation and is now making other teams pay.

[hockeymass 11]

Yes but they have rescinded it on a multitude of events and now they uphold it? That's what is crazy. It's not that Backstrom got a game as much as what other people do that get similar penalties that are far more egregious. Especially for someone with no prior history.

Shanny screwed up the Weber situation and is now making other teams pay.

Like when?

[Gr8erade 1]

Yes but they have rescinded it on a multitude of events and now they uphold it? That's what is crazy. It's not that Backstrom got a game as much as what other people do that get similar penalties that are far more egregious. Especially for someone with no prior history.

Shanny screwed up the Weber situation and is now making other teams pay.

Look, think of it in terms of what Backstrom did. He cross checked another player in the face at the end of the game, after getting already called for cross checking TWICE in the same game. The match penalty was the right call. So was upholding the mandatory one game suspension.

I agree that it doesn't make sense in terms to the completely random decisions made by Shanahan and the referees this post-season, but in terms of solely focusing on what Backstrom actually DID, one game for what he did is entirely reasonable.

[chippa13 1844]

Yes but they have rescinded it on a multitude of events and now they uphold it? That's what is crazy. It's not that Backstrom got a game as much as what other people do that get similar penalties that are far more egregious. Especially for someone with no prior history.

Shanny screwed up the Weber situation and is now making other teams pay.

This is how guys develop prior history. At some point they had to get that first suspension.

[hockeysc23 0]

Like when?

Typing on phone so il be brief but here are some:

-Malkin 09 scf

- walker in 09

- Chara in 10

- Lucic reg season this year

- nick Johnson this season for a headbutt

- kopecky for sucker punch

And if you are going to call match penalties Thomas hitting backstrom in the back of his head with his blocker and kicking Troy Brouwer are technically match penalties too. Consistency is what kills me.

[chippa13 1844]

Admit it, what kills you is "you're picking on my guy but look what their guys did to us!!!!"

Thomas was given a "freebie" on the punch at Backstrom, something you rarely, if ever, see called for a match penalty in the NHL. The reason no penalty was called on Thomas was most likely because the refs didn't feel like calling the matching penalties; 2 for Backstrom for slashing and 2 for Thomas for roughing. They probably decided that each got their shot in, no harm done, let's play on.

On the Brouwer "kick", had Thomas been successful on what looked like a failed slew foot, then you could have an argument.

As for Holtby getting a roughing called on him, kind of a weak call but that was the refs treating a rookie like a rookie. A similar situation occurred in the Kings/Canucks game where Nolan was whistled for giving one of the Sedins a little of the business. Had Brown or some other veteran done the same thing then there likely wouldn't have been a call but rookies are seldom afforded the same leeway by the referees.

[hockeysc23 0]

Chippa, I admit that. Just sucks in a relatively close series that one team has to lose their best center as arguably player for a borderline call at best.

[chippa13 1844]

I don't know that it is borderline as much as it is the league trying to rein in the playoffs after the gong show of the first week plus. I think the rest of this we can handle in the B's/Caps thread.

[EBondo 233]

What does everyone think about this? I don't even remember seeing this happen during the game, but looks like the arm is extended out

[hockeymass 11]

Chippa, I admit that. Just sucks in a relatively close series that one team has to lose their best center as arguably player for a borderline call at best.

I think that if that crosscheck hadn't come after the game was over, it wouldn't have been a match.

[Chadd 916]

What does everyone think about this? I don't even remember seeing this happen during the game, but looks like the arm is extended out

He does that in just about every game, nothing will happen to him.

[EBondo 233]

I don't see anything right about that hit, and that's with my homer glasses off. Nothing is coming Rinaldo's way either, and THAT I am definitely surprised about.

[chippa13 1844]

Rinaldo barely did enough to be asked to leave, there was nothing suspension worthy about his actions.

[Chadd 916]

Anything more than 4 and 10 to Rinaldo was too much.

[EBondo 233]

...but it's Rinaldo lol. He has a reputation and I figured for sure that was going to hurt him in this instance.

[that_guy 2]

I remember seeing that during the game and thinking it was at the very least questionable, however Chadd is right not a thing will come of it.

Rinaldo is garbage, scum of the league. However, he did not deserve a suspension, glad to see him not get one. Also glad to see him exit that game early, there was nothing good that could come from him being on the ice.

[RadioGaGa 162]

Wait....hold the phone!!!! Did we get through 4 games last night with no shenanigans or stupidity?????

Did I miss a high, uhm, lowlight somewhere...?

[wrangler 157]

Don't worry, there's always tonight.

[hamstercaster 2]

An article from the Sun. Interesting suggestion by Eugene Melnik, one that has been made on this board too I believe or at least something similar. It's at the end of the article but here's the quote:

“It’s very simple: You rank your players ‘A’, ‘B’ and ‘C’. You take out of my ‘A’ players during a playoff series, I get to select one of your ‘A’ players that’s not going to play. Forget about the goon, he doesn’t care if he plays again, he’s getting paid, but give me a choice of who I can take off of your roster. It’s no different than chess: You take away one of my kings, I take away one of yours. That will put pressure on a lot of these players not to do repeat hits.”

http://www.ottawasun.com/2012/04/19/sens-owner-wants-harsher-bans

[IniNew 53]

Then you get into all the problems with player ratings.

"It's not fair that so-and-so got rated an A. They're no where near that level, and now they get to take Crosby out of the series until he gets better!? He'll sit the whole series just to keep him out!"

[hamstercaster 2]

I agree, wouldn't be easy to rate players for sure specially with some of the players having career years and then slump the next. Still interesting either way but probably not feasible.

[wrangler 157]

Torres ruling will be announced tomorrow: http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=628895

[Barts66 0]

Torres ruling will be announced tomorrow: http://www.nhl.com/i...s.htm?id=628895

That I do not understand...

I know this isnt a suspension, but it does pertain to the Hossa incident. Quenneville was fined 10k for comments made about the officiating during that game. http://www.nhl.com/i...s.htm?id=628705