flyweightphantom 1 Report post Posted March 24, 2012 I've had the X60's for over 2 years and had nothing but problems with pain around the base of my big toe and the heel. Had both areas punched out helped the heel not the big toe area. I bought a size 8 and now my foot also feels as if it's floating around in it probably due to the boot breaking down. So now i'm out to find new skates which are more comfortable to my foot. I decided to try on APX's size 8 (among trying on ccm cl, 11ks etc) and didn't have that same pressure at the base of the toe and they just seemed to fit my foot better than the X60. The tip of my big toe skims the toe cap and once again the overall fit of the skate seemed great. They didn't have 7.5 and was wondering should i even bother finding a 7.5 to try on or go with the 8 since I am skimming the cap? Just want to make the right decision this time since i don't trust some of these young kids at my LHS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fire Walker 22 Report post Posted March 24, 2012 Once the skates are baked your toes should be off the cap. Mine were touching at first and now have a bit of space after molding. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hunt3rsean 44 Report post Posted March 25, 2012 I ran into a similar issue going from my old One55 to the X:4. I needed a more narrow boot but since toe cap area is smaller it shortened up the skate compared to my old set. My LHS said to stick with the same size because once baked/broken in that issue will stop. And if necessary...most shops have the ability to stretch the skate. All Id need is maybe a .25 size up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nittanypucker 1 Report post Posted March 25, 2012 I just got a pair of APX skates after moving from the Vapor XXXX. I was very concerned when I tried on the skates and my toe was feathering the front a bit more than I like. When I bent my knees I couldn't feel the cap. I got them baked once (standing bake, not seated after they come out of the oven) and they fit PERFECTLY! They are by far the most comfortable skates I have ever had. I bought these one size down from my shoe size. If your toe is just grazing, and you get them baked, they should fit fine. If you are really concerned, and have the money, you may want to try reebok. To me, they feel a bit wider all around but are heavier and seem pitched slightly forward. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyweightphantom 1 Report post Posted March 27, 2012 I actually ended up going down to a 7.5D in size it feels perfect. I still have a slight pressure point at the base of my big toe sort of where you get a bunion which i have a small one. So i'll skate first see if it goes away and if not get them punched out so far im very happy with the fit in general except that pressure point which is just my foots problem. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fire Walker 22 Report post Posted March 27, 2012 I actually ended up going down to a 7.5D in size it feels perfect. I still have a slight pressure point at the base of my big toe sort of where you get a bunion which i have a small one. So i'll skate first see if it goes away and if not get them punched out so far im very happy with the fit in general except that pressure point which is just my foots problem.My x60s fit fine in the toe box but I had to get the APX's punched out. The skates are a great fit now though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyweightphantom 1 Report post Posted March 27, 2012 My x60s were nearly unbareable at times to be honest and they even punched them out.. maybe they didnt get the perfect spot. I'm going ot skate with the APX's tomorrow and see how they feel. The pressure is only minimum at this point so maybe it will be nothing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyweightphantom 1 Report post Posted March 29, 2012 I think i'm headed toward having them punched because the pain was pretty nasty after my first skate. I may skate a few more times before doing it but just can't see it getting better as it feels like the base of my toe is against concrete. Any tips on finding the right spot to show them to punch? Sometimes its tough when the skate it on seeing whats is the exact spot to hit! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fire Walker 22 Report post Posted March 29, 2012 I think i'm headed toward having them punched because the pain was pretty nasty after my first skate. I may skate a few more times before doing it but just can't see it getting better as it feels like the base of my toe is against concrete. Any tips on finding the right spot to show them to punch? Sometimes its tough when the skate it on seeing whats is the exact spot to hit!I waited as well to see if they would get better. It was easy for me to line up as all I had to do was match where the blisters were. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyers10 57 Report post Posted March 29, 2012 I think i'm headed toward having them punched because the pain was pretty nasty after my first skate. I may skate a few more times before doing it but just can't see it getting better as it feels like the base of my toe is against concrete. Any tips on finding the right spot to show them to punch? Sometimes its tough when the skate it on seeing whats is the exact spot to hit!Some have put chalk or even lipstick on their foot to show what area needs punching. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nac14 0 Report post Posted March 30, 2012 I was in a Bauer One95 7.5D and I switched to the APX and I had to go a .5size I wear a 7.0D in the APX. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyweightphantom 1 Report post Posted March 30, 2012 I'm not getting blisters just nasty pain and swelling, thats a good idea flyers10 to use either chalk or lipstick (should i use red or pink lol) to see where its rubbing thanks for the tip! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lovejotd 1 Report post Posted April 2, 2012 I just bought some Bauer Vapor Apx size 8EE. I haven't baughted a new pair of skates in about 8 years, I was wearing graf 705s 8.5EE.I have been using the Apx for about a week now, playing 4-5 times a week. They are not very comfortable to me. I use the superfeet as I have arch issues. The skates fit pretty well, but there seems to be a rubbing or presure on the insides of my skates, where the bone sticks out, on both feet. Do you think this is just due to the break in processes? I heat molded them once. They are obviously much stiffer then my grafs. Are my feet just not used to it or do you think there is another problem?Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dangles83 24 Report post Posted April 2, 2012 I just bought some Bauer Vapor Apx size 8EE. I haven't baughted a new pair of skates in about 8 years, I was wearing graf 705s 8.5EE.I have been using the Apx for about a week now, playing 4-5 times a week. They are not very comfortable to me. I use the superfeet as I have arch issues. The skates fit pretty well, but there seems to be a rubbing or presure on the insides of my skates, where the bone sticks out, on both feet. Do you think this is just due to the break in processes? I heat molded them once. They are obviously much stiffer then my grafs. Are my feet just not used to it or do you think there is another problem?Any suggestions would be greatly appreciatedI have been in Bauers for years (XX, XXX, XXXX, x:60 and now the APX). I remained a 9D all throughout. They are so comfortable right out of the box that they remind me of slippers. Switching manufacturers may be the issue as I hated CCMs and even the Bauer Supreme line hurt my feet pretty bad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lovejotd 1 Report post Posted April 2, 2012 I have been in Bauers for years (XX, XXX, XXXX, x:60 and now the APX). I remained a 9D all throughout. They are so comfortable right out of the box that they remind me of slippers. Switching manufacturers may be the issue as I hated CCMs and even the Bauer Supreme line hurt my feet pretty bad.Yeah but you followed the progression of the vapor line, I havent had vapors sense the XX came out. These skates a lot stiffer then my grafs, like a lot...lol I just cant tell if it is a break in issue or if its a fit issue...if its me or the skate... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AIREAYE 248 Report post Posted April 2, 2012 You can try molding them again with a pair of thin socks, as it seems that the ankle padding is rubbing against your bones, if that doesn't work, you can have that area punched out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lovejotd 1 Report post Posted April 2, 2012 I did the chalk test that someone suggested, and hte chalk shows up on the edge of the tongue, so I think they may be my issue, Is there anything I could do if thats the case? Thanks! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AIREAYE 248 Report post Posted April 2, 2012 Oh then the tongue has twisted inwards? You could trim it or use tape in some scheme to hold it away. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lovejotd 1 Report post Posted April 2, 2012 Yeah I would hate to cut the tongue, if that is no the issue, seems like a drastic surgury for my skates lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyweightphantom 1 Report post Posted April 3, 2012 I've trimmed the edges of my tongue before if thats whats rubbing just do it, it shouldn't pose a problem. I always try to mold skates with whatever socks i play with I wear dress socks, very thin. I'm going to get my skates punched this weekend let you know how it feels. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lovejotd 1 Report post Posted April 3, 2012 I've trimmed the edges of my tongue before if thats whats rubbing just do it, it shouldn't pose a problem. I always try to mold skates with whatever socks i play with I wear dress socks, very thin. I'm going to get my skates punched this weekend let you know how it feels.Please let me know how that works for you, thanks! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyweightphantom 1 Report post Posted April 26, 2012 Had them punched and skated a few times they feel perfect now in that area. I can't seem to win but my new problem is nasty lace bite especially on the right foot. Is the only way to fix this by putting padding between the tongue and sock? Any ideas will be greatly appreciated? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vet88 674 Report post Posted April 26, 2012 You have a number of options:-- bunga pads or similar made specifically for lace bite.- Gel pads for your feet work just as well, I've used these with great effect and they are cheap http://www.runningwarehouse.com/descpage-SOFGBOF.html. Downside is you can lose them easily and when you do you really notice how much that lace bite hurts.....- get new tongues with extra padding- find an old tongue, cut it to shape where the lace bite is, stitch or glue (or both) it over your existing tongue (for some kids I coach, I've done this with 4 pairs of Mission T6 inline skates and one pair of CCM Vector V10 inline skates and it works real well).Someone else may chip in with some other thoughts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyweightphantom 1 Report post Posted April 26, 2012 I mean i have that form fit 2 tongue with that lace bite channel (APXR skates i should clarify) and its still painful especially since i put on wax laces so i find it odd that its so painful at that junction between the foot and ankle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vet88 674 Report post Posted April 26, 2012 A new boot creates different pressure points, possibly it is pressing on a tendon that was previously under pressure but was just surviving. As you were previously in X60's I doubt it is a volume issue but you could try the pencil test to see.At the end of the day you are going to have to fix it, and quickly, because nothing kills your skating faster than lace bite. Experiment with some of the ideas I've suggested, cheaper options are bubble wrap (the small closed cell type) or even cardboard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites