Easton Mako Skates

[icewalker_bg 126]

No idea if there is a difference in the heel area between ee and d, what i do know is how to make the heel area tighter. 

 

Remove tendon guard, take a heat gun and gently heat the upper heel area until soft, using a clamp or your fingers and towel squeeze the soft material (not carbon fiber) until desired width. 

[krisdrum 233]

2 minutes ago, icewalker_bg said:

No idea if there is a difference in the heel area between ee and d, what i do know is how to make the heel area tighter. 

 

Remove tendon guard, take a heat gun and gently heat the upper heel area until soft, using a clamp or your fingers and towel squeeze the soft material (not carbon fiber) until desired width. 

Thanks.  No dice.  Done that.  Still too wide.  Ultimately the carbon area is too wide. 

[icewalker_bg 126]

I used to use thicker socks (sometimes 2 pairs), and ez ankle booties before I met the Mako skates, while I was in Bauer / Reebok. I had a few pairs but I believe I gave them away here on MHS, I can see in my stash if I have a pair left I can throw your way. 

Not sure if that is a route you are willing to go, but I can almost guarantee you the ankle booties will lock your heel like never before, might be worth it if everything else is perfect.  I didnt mind wearing them and wouldve continued to wear but there is no need in Makos for me, you must a have a really really narrow heel, or the EE has a much wider heel than the D I am used to (as I have a narrow heel and it locks solid).

https://www.ezeefitsports.com/product-p/011.htm

 

Edited May 3, 2017 by icewalker_bg

[krisdrum 233]

30 minutes ago, icewalker_bg said:

I used to use thicker socks (sometimes 2 pairs), and ez ankle booties before I met the Mako skates, while I was in Bauer / Reebok. I had a few pairs but I believe I gave them away here on MHS, I can see in my stash if I have a pair left I can throw your way. 

Not sure if that is a route you are willing to go, but I can almost guarantee you the ankle booties will lock your heel like never before, might be worth it if everything else is perfect. 

https://www.ezeefitsports.com/product-p/011.htm

 

Thanks.  I was looking at bunga pads or the ezeefits.  But decided to switch back to my Grafs (much narrower heel, great heel lock).  The Grafs fit great, but they have exposed significant weaknesses in my technique and mechanics that stiffer boots minimize.  I'm trying to work through that, but progress is slow and frustrating.  Maybe that is just what it needs to be. 

Not sure how I feel about adding a pad to help me get a better fit.  Maybe that is silly and short-sighted.  But that is why I am asking the question as a last ditch effort.  Either I get the heel to lock in these, or they are going on the block.  Food for thought I guess.  Need to make a decision. 

Edited May 3, 2017 by krisdrum

[icewalker_bg 126]

Just throwing it put there, are you sized properly, can you brush / feel the front of the boot? Maybe a boot too big? 

[krisdrum 233]

5 minutes ago, icewalker_bg said:

Just throwing it put there, are you sized properly, can you brush / feel the front of the boot? Maybe a boot too big? 

Yep, size is right.  Toes feather.  Same length as my old Vapor EEs.    Boots are a touch longer than my Graf, which have a slightly tighter fit in the toes. I am almost positive my lack of heel lock is more a function of where my heel is narrow not matching up with where the Makos can be molded.  Hence seeing if maybe the D width could provide better heel dimensions.  Outside of using an ankle booty, I think I have explored and tried all options.  I'd rather not use one if I don't have to.  And I don't have to in the Grafs.  Of course the Grafs expose my ankle weakness and pronation issues.  So neither right now is a silver bullet to make me skate like McDavid.  ;)

[icewalker_bg 126]

Ya i used to skate in 735's back then on my quest to find a boot that locks my heel, way too soft my pronation was worst. 

I have the feeling you would fit perfectly in S17/SE16 - super stiff boot with great support - the narrowest heel with very thick pads around the heel area i tried at retail level - wider forefoot,  R (D) felt like a EE

[kyleo29 58]

20 hours ago, krisdrum said:

Mako peeps.  Last ditch effort.  Anyone have a well informed answer to the difference in heel width between the D and EE skates?  I bought EE as I need the space up front, problem is I have a super narrow heel.  The boot fits great everywhere, but the heel is too wide.  With how flexible the boots are during the baking process, I'm wondering if it makes sense to try a D to get a narrower heel and hope/assume the boot will accommodate my wider forefoot once baked.  Thoughts?

I have a narrow heel and before my makos I was in ccm and had to wear stable 26 socks to get a better heel lock. It did the trick but was still no substitute for a proper fitting skate

[qmechanic 17]

I love my Mako II skates, but if I do any kind of intense skating practice (as opposed to a game where I glide around a lot), my left foot starts killing me.  There's a bone on the inside of my left foot that rubs against the skate (accessory navicular?)  Any suggestions on how to fix this?  When I originally had the Makos baked, the pro shop guy put my feet & skates inside this CCM machine that squeezed them.  Should I rebake the left skate?  Or just heat the affected area with a heat gun?  I previously wore Bauer Supreme 3000, Grafs, Bauer Vapor XXV, Bauer Supreme One70 skates and never had a problem with my inside foot before.  I'd appreciate any tips you have, thanks.

Edited May 4, 2017 by qmechanic

[krisdrum 233]

29 minutes ago, kyleo29 said:

I have a narrow heel and before my makos I was in ccm and had to wear stable 26 socks to get a better heel lock. It did the trick but was still no substitute for a proper fitting skate

Which CCM were you coming from that needed the Stable 26?

[krisdrum 233]

12 hours ago, icewalker_bg said:

Ya i used to skate in 735's back then on my quest to find a boot that locks my heel, way too soft my pronation was worst. 

I have the feeling you would fit perfectly in S17/SE16 - super stiff boot with great support - the narrowest heel with very thick pads around the heel area i tried at retail level - wider forefoot,  R (D) felt like a EE

Nice.  I am in 535's.  Great heel lock, but the pronation is very evident.  I had the heel of the holders shimmed, which has helped re-align the balance point, but I am still having issues with my left (weak side) foot.   I've started doing exercises to strengthen all those little muscles to help build strength and re-alignment, but who knows how long that will take before I see a change for the better. 

[kyleo29 58]

32 minutes ago, krisdrum said:

Which CCM were you coming from that needed the Stable 26?

They were u+10. Still have them and use them for outdoor or backup skates. 

[gosinger 122]

1 hour ago, qmechanic said:

I love my Mako II skates, but if I do any kind of intense skating practice (as opposed to a game where I glide around a lot), my left foot starts killing me.  There's a bone on the inside of my left foot that rubs against the skate (accessory navicular?)  Any suggestions on how to fix this?  When I originally had the Makos baked, the pro shop guy put my feet & skates inside this CCM machine that squeezed them.  Should I rebake the left skate?  Or just heat the affected area with a heat gun?  I previously wore Bauer Supreme 3000, Grafs, Bauer Vapor XXV, Bauer Supreme One70 skates and never had a problem with my inside foot before.  I'd appreciate any tips you have, thanks.

Without being any kind of foot specialist, if you experience rubbing you could try the spot-heating and punching method, you can do it at home with a heat-gun and the back of a screw-driver as demonstrated here (I know there also is a VH vid about this somewhere): 

As the Mako can be baked multiple times this shouldn't do any damage (as long as you don't burn them) at all and might be worth a shot.

[krisdrum 233]

48 minutes ago, kyleo29 said:

They were u+10. Still have them and use them for outdoor or backup skates. 

Got it, makes sense.  I just looked at the IW fit descriptions of both and I'm not surprised to hear you needed a bit of help in the heel of the CCMs given what you've found with the Makos.

U+10: General fit aspects of the CCM boot are medium-high volume, medium ankle area, wide across top of foot and forefoot and medium toe box.

Mako: General fit aspects of the Mako boot is low to medium volume with a very contouring fit; offering low-medium volume in the ankle area, heel pocket, across the top of the foot and the toe box

[rusty_black 17]

I've had a pair of Mako 2's for about 6 months, and absolutely love the fit and feel of them. 

I've recently made the switch from playing D to playing in Goal, but my goalie skates are second hand, old and very heavy, and not very stiff.

I see the new Bauer's have a Vertexx holder that looks like it could be a straight replacment for the player skates.  (same amount of rivets)

 I'd love to swap the holder and remove the tendon guard and play with these in goal , then just swap back when I'm ready to play out again.

Can anyone confirm that the Mako 2's and the Vertexx holder are a direct bolt on/ no holes drilled swap over?

 

[icewalker_bg 126]

On May 4, 2017 at 9:46 AM, qmechanic said:

I love my Mako II skates, but if I do any kind of intense skating practice (as opposed to a game where I glide around a lot), my left foot starts killing me.  There's a bone on the inside of my left foot that rubs against the skate (accessory navicular?)  Any suggestions on how to fix this?  When I originally had the Makos baked, the pro shop guy put my feet & skates inside this CCM machine that squeezed them.  Should I rebake the left skate?  Or just heat the affected area with a heat gun?  I previously wore Bauer Supreme 3000, Grafs, Bauer Vapor XXV, Bauer Supreme One70 skates and never had a problem with my inside foot before.  I'd appreciate any tips you have, thanks.

Yes, heatgun and screwdriver handle. There is a video made by Easton on youtube you can look up. 

[icewalker_bg 126]

On May 4, 2017 at 9:55 AM, krisdrum said:

Nice.  I am in 535's.  Great heel lock, but the pronation is very evident.  I had the heel of the holders shimmed, which has helped re-align the balance point, but I am still having issues with my left (weak side) foot.   I've started doing exercises to strengthen all those little muscles to help build strength and re-alignment, but who knows how long that will take before I see a change for the better. 

Exaclty the same, shimmed the inside of the holders, hated it. 

I am lucky to have found a perfecty fitting skate for my skinny feet, but spent way more than a custom skate while searching, you should consider it if it gets too complicated.

I am sure you are aware in pretty much every brand you can get  a/aa/aaa heel, wider forefoot, different stiffness and so on...

Edited May 6, 2017 by icewalker_bg

[IPv6Freely 2092]

On 5/4/2017 at 2:07 PM, rusty_black said:

I've had a pair of Mako 2's for about 6 months, and absolutely love the fit and feel of them. 

I've recently made the switch from playing D to playing in Goal, but my goalie skates are second hand, old and very heavy, and not very stiff.

I see the new Bauer's have a Vertexx holder that looks like it could be a straight replacment for the player skates.  (same amount of rivets)

 I'd love to swap the holder and remove the tendon guard and play with these in goal , then just swap back when I'm ready to play out again.

Can anyone confirm that the Mako 2's and the Vertexx holder are a direct bolt on/ no holes drilled swap over?

 

I don't think so but can't confirm. I was going to do the same and even had a pair of Makos ready to go, but didn't like the feel of them without the tendon guards so I said screw it and got VH. 

[kyleo29 58]

Reviving old thread. So Ive grown tired of the extreme aggressive pitch of my mako skates and want something more neutral. Thinking about profiling or maybe adding a shim to the front. Any benefits over the other?

[IPv6Freely 2092]

9 minutes ago, kyleo29 said:

Reviving old thread. So Ive grown tired of the extreme aggressive pitch of my mako skates and want something more neutral. Thinking about profiling or maybe adding a shim to the front. Any benefits over the other?

I just had mine profiled "slight negative", whatever that actually means. That fixed the pitch for me. 

I'd be more likely to just put Bauer holders on than to shim the front. 

[215BroadStBullies610 435]

On 8/1/2017 at 3:25 PM, kyleo29 said:

Reviving old thread. So Ive grown tired of the extreme aggressive pitch of my mako skates and want something more neutral. Thinking about profiling or maybe adding a shim to the front. Any benefits over the other?

If you don't mind me asking, why the tiredness?

[sparky1 29]

On 8/1/2017 at 3:25 PM, kyleo29 said:

Reviving old thread. So Ive grown tired of the extreme aggressive pitch of my mako skates and want something more neutral. Thinking about profiling or maybe adding a shim to the front. Any benefits over the other?

Profiling would be your easiest method. I think for a neutral pitch, the steel needs to be profiled to a negative pitch. Not 100% sure, but I remember it being discussed way back when in this thread at some point.

 

Or if you want to go the extreme route, you can always swap your holder to a TUUK holder. That's what I ended up doing because I didn't like the mako's stock holder.

[kyleo29 58]

5 hours ago, 215BroadStBullies610 said:

If you don't mind me asking, why the tiredness?

I moved back to center recently and I feel off balance constantly when battling for position in front of the net. Any push from behind seems to send me falling forward. Maybe I just need an adjustment time

[215BroadStBullies610 435]

28 minutes ago, kyleo29 said:

I moved back to center recently and I feel off balance constantly when battling for position in front of the net. Any push from behind seems to send me falling forward. Maybe I just need an adjustment time

Ah. I see. That makes sense. The forward pitch could easily do that.

[swede 48]

1 hour ago, kyleo29 said:

I moved back to center recently and I feel off balance constantly when battling for position in front of the net. Any push from behind seems to send me falling forward. Maybe I just need an adjustment time

A deeper knee bend will solve that problem..