Sharpening costs

[wrangler 157]

Total Hockey - $6 for either ROH or FBV.

Apparently they lowered it. I'm pretty sure it used to be $8 for FBV at the Glenview store.

[IPv6Freely 2100]

I could care less if people buy their skates elsewhere, just don't ask me to do for no extra charge the extra work that the person you bought them from should have done. Some look at it as punishment, I view it only as time, labor, stone and diamond wear.

Right, but the initial sharpen is free if you buy the skates there (usually). I'm just saying the higher cost of an initial sharpening vs a regular one is another reason to buy local.

[jimmy 194]

Right, but the initial sharpen is free if you buy the skates there (usually). I'm just saying the higher cost of an initial sharpening vs a regular one is another reason to buy local.

Of course, always buy local instead of from some corporate investor owned online store. :-)

[oldtrainerguy28 478]

First, since the cross grind wheel is round, you are not technically grinding the runner flat. That will already put you on your way to establishing a hollow. Second, most of the runners that come from the factory are not flat themselves, but have a convex finish to them. By grinding that away, the initial out-of-the-box sharpening will require less passes to establish the desired hollow you're looking for, therefore, requiring less dressing of the wheel. You may be able to get away with a single dressing, or dare I say, still use the same dressing from your last sharpening. Of course, if one doesn't know how to properly dress a stone anyway, then my entire explanation is null and void.

You may want to check the persons posts and or profile before telling them how to sharpen. your 62 posts to Jimmy's 3,600? As Jimmy said the new steel is made much better these days and if your like jimmy and myself and a lot of other good shops we mainly use step steel and with that there is zero difference to CG and o just sharpening when it comes to dressing the wheel. NOW that being said you would be correct on very low end skates hockey figure and rec skates but nothing over lets say the 199 mark for arguments sake.

[wrangler 157]

It's to jimmy's credit that he makes his points and arguments, and lets them stand or fall on their own, rather than simply insisting that he's correct because of his experience. That would be very weak, and limit discussion that informs all readers. I think it's good for others to say what they think, to contribute to the discussion, without being shy because of another poster's broad experience. Who knows, we may all learn something from it.

[mickz 107]

You may want to check the persons posts and or profile before telling them how to sharpen. your 62 posts to Jimmy's 3,600? As Jimmy said the new steel is made much better these days and if your like jimmy and myself and a lot of other good shops we mainly use step steel and with that there is zero difference to CG and o just sharpening when it comes to dressing the wheel. NOW that being said you would be correct on very low end skates hockey figure and rec skates but nothing over lets say the 199 mark for arguments sake.

How is post count relevant to this? Jimmy is backing up his arguments with many points whereas you are simply associating "correct" techniques vs post counts and good shops vs Step steel.

[jimmy 194]

How is post count relevant to this? Jimmy is backing up his arguments with many points whereas you are simply associating "correct" techniques vs post counts and good shops vs Step steel.

I think OTG is just saying I'm not a sharpening rookie and my many posts might indicate that. But still, 3600 posts is nothing. In over 10 yrs, that really is less than 1 per day. :-)

[Ankles 3]

You may want to check the persons posts and or profile before telling them how to sharpen. your 62 posts to Jimmy's 3,600? As Jimmy said the new steel is made much better these days and if your like jimmy and myself and a lot of other good shops we mainly use step steel and with that there is zero difference to CG and o just sharpening when it comes to dressing the wheel. NOW that being said you would be correct on very low end skates hockey figure and rec skates but nothing over lets say the 199 mark for arguments sake.

Not really sure how one's post counts are relevant at all. Jimmy may comment on a wide range of topics, whereas I like to sit back and just read and keep most of my opinions to myself. Kudos to Jimmy for dropping his knowledge so everyone can take another opinion into consideration. I didn't disagree that new steel is made better, but there are a lot of runners that still have that convex finish to them, even in the 199 mark and over. I find its easier to cross grind a new set of skates and save myself the hassle of doing extra passes and ruining the dress on my wheel.

[jimmy 194]

Pardon me but you specifically commented that I would dress less if I crossgrind, I say you are wrong. I do 7-10 new sets of steel per day, every single day. If I thought crossgrinding would save time or dressing, I'd be first one to dust off my crossgrinder. For me, I've found it's absloutely not necessary. For your technique perhaps. For me, crossgrinding does not begin to establish a hollow, it's a waste of time. A few passes on finishing wheel accomplishes same thing and it actually easier, IMO.

[oldtrainerguy28 478]

Not really sure how one's post counts are relevant at all. Jimmy may comment on a wide range of topics, whereas I like to sit back and just read and keep most of my opinions to myself. Kudos to Jimmy for dropping his knowledge so everyone can take another opinion into consideration. I didn't disagree that new steel is made better, but there are a lot of runners that still have that convex finish to them, even in the 199 mark and over. I find its easier to cross grind a new set of skates and save myself the hassle of doing extra passes and ruining the dress on my wheel.

And I believe I agreed on skates that had the convex it can be done that being said I do not personally do any skates like that anymore in my shop. Its mainly high end skates. And seeing as I no longer sale saktes out of my shop I have no new skates to do only Step incase someone brings in a new skate for a profile and to have it set up they way I had done the last set.

I am not here to argue the point I was just simply pointing out that your "tone" seemed to imply he did not know what he was doing when it came to how to use a cross grind wheel.

[x-track 8]

€ 3 to € 5 over here .....FBV only available in about 3 stores nationwide